How to get vegetable garden started

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truentgoon

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How different is vegetable gardening compared to how we grow our medicine?
What should the setup be like outdoors.

Do I just go out and buy miracle grow. What nutes do I need if any. Should they be in pots or raised beds.

It's mostly for my mother so she's probably going to end up buying all the stuff from Home Depot but I can talk her into buying better stuff online if you guys suggest it.

A list of stuff to get started would be perfect. She wants to get a mini walk in greenhouse but I don't know if that's needed. Thanks a bunch.
 
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RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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I would spend the first year preparing my beds. EXAMPLE: I dug out a trench around the edge of my patio and removed clay, bricks and construction garbage. I went down about 24 inches and about 36 inches wide. I dumped the clay over raised maple tree roots on my lawn and leveled it out removing the larger rocks as the rain exposed them. I borrowed a chipper and chipped up limbs from my brush pile and threw those in. My friend has a cattle farm so I dug up some manure and brought that in along with all my grass clippings in the summer and leaves in the fall. I topped it off with more manure and bone meal late fall and mixed that all up nice with a shovel then covered with black plastic held in place by bricks for the winter. Come spring you will have a lovely bed for growing anything. I did have to make a beer trap the first year with a 40 oz budweiser and a glass casserole dish. It wiped out a whole colony of snails and slugs the first night and everything grew lovely after that. P.S. Working a shovel and turning your compost is good exercise !
 
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truentgoon

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RetiredGuerilla said:
I would spend the first year preparing my beds. EXAMPLE: I dug out a trench around the edge of my patio and removed clay, bricks and construction garbage. I went down about 24 inches and about 36 inches wide. I dumped the clay over raised maple tree roots on my lawn and leveled it out removing the larger rocks as the rain exposed them. I borrowed a chipper and chipped up limbs from my brush pile and threw those in. My friend has a cattle farm so I dug up some manure and brought that in along with all my grass clippings in the summer and leaves in the fall. I topped it off with more manure and bone meal late fall and mixed that all up nice with a shovel then covered with black plastic held in place by bricks for the winter. Come spring you will have a lovely bed for growing anything. I did have to make a beer trap the first year with a 40 oz budweiser and a glass casserole dish. It wiped out a whole colony of snails and slugs the first night and everything grew lovely after that. P.S. Working a shovel and turning your compost is good exercise !
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Cool, any particular reason why you do it on the side of the patio. Seems like a good idea with my walkway/patio.
 
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cottee

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I grew some veg and herbs around a big border I made in my garden. For some reason I thought it would be a good idea to replace the soil with my used coco. Was a fucking nightmare lol in the summer they would dry out within a day or so. I was forever watering. Water bill was a joke lol
 
vostok

vostok

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truentgoon said:
Cool, any particular reason why you do it on the side of the patio. Seems like a good idea with my walkway/patio.
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I did the same with my 'patio' as it acts as a sun trap or a solar heat sink sucking in the heat of the day and emtting at night

the patio is an essential item for toking at my place...along with furnitutre and music ...lol

the only place to get some peace and quite ..lol

I have learned to grow different vegies and fruits depending on the time of year

often including them in the grow room come winter

and like with my organic weed...have a mixing storing and drying area all close by

the easiet by far is Radishies and ending with my dismal quince ..not mine above

Strawberries are always a blast in winter

just now I'm trashing my 20yo currant trees

good luck

ps 2nd year with my hops plants and still no rysomes/hops grrr I got ripped?
 
RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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truentgoon said:
Cool, any particular reason why you do it on the side of the patio. Seems like a good idea with my walkway/patio.
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Privacy. Cannabis grown in the back yard with daily care (the way i do it) is equal to indoor grown. The wandering root system and the organic teas improve the soil and make it very fertile. If you inspect your plants daily you spot potential problems before they can take hold. I also like using 3 gal. pots to flower young seedlings in the spring. I just bring them inside and put them in a dark closet around 5 p.m. every evening and back out in the morning. Having a harvest in early June is pretty cool.
 
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truentgoon

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vostok said:

I did the same with my 'patio' as it acts as a sun trap or a solar heat sink sucking in the heat of the day and emtting at night

the patio is an essential item for toking at my place...along with furnitutre and music ...lol

the only place to get some peace and quite ..lol

I have learned to grow different vegies and fruits depending on the time of year

often including them in the grow room come winter

and like with my organic weed...have a mixing storing and drying area all close by

the easiet by far is Radishies and ending with my dismal quince ..not mine above

Strawberries are always a blast in winter

just now I'm trashing my 20yo currant trees

good luck

ps 2nd year with my hops plants and still no rysomes/hops grrr I got ripped?
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What are those in the pic they look nice and plump. Never would have known about the patio acting as a heat sink. I'll keep radishes and strawberries in mind, dried homegrown strawberries must be so good. Whatever I grow I want to freeze dry or regular dry. I kind of want to get into the hobby of learning how to do all that drying so I have healthy food to snack on year round.

The ground on the side of my patio is sloped so idk how that would work and the cats hang out around the patio I don't know what to do. One part of the yard is open with no trees along with the patio. I was thinking raised beds apon a square mulch bed. Although it might be cheaper just to not do raised beds and just amend my own yard soil.
 
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truentgoon

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RetiredGuerilla said:
Privacy. Cannabis grown in the back yard with daily care (the way i do it) is equal to indoor grown. The wandering root system and the organic teas improve the soil and make it very fertile. If you inspect your plants daily you spot potential problems before they can take hold. I also like using 3 gal. pots to flower young seedlings in the spring. I just bring them inside and put them in a dark closet around 5 p.m. every evening and back out in the morning. Having a harvest in early June is pretty cool.
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Do you think just using compost, bone/blood meal, and turkey manure would work ok? Do I need any other important things to get started?
 
RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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truentgoon said:
Do you think just using compost, bone/blood meal, and turkey manure would work ok? Do I need any other important things to get started?
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You could add in some happy frog or ocean forest if you wanted to splurge. The list of amendments is limitless but usually varies with your locale. Crab,shrimp and feather meal are popular. Fish bone meal has gotten popular. I like green sand for potash. You can burn sticks and dried leaves or have a weiner roast in your backyard and use the wood ash. Wood ash is a favorite amongst old timers. When you use amendments just make sure you represent N P K. Nitrogen, Phosphorus and potassium. When i make teas i like to use worm casting shakes and fish emulsion for nitrogen. Seabird guano for phosphorus. Thrive alive with kelp and B-1 is another favorite. I like liquid kelp like maxicrop is good (if you can find it) for foliar feeding. Read some grow store catalogs online that's always fun.Save all your veggie and fruit scraps too !! GOOD LUCK :peace:
 
vostok

vostok

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truentgoon said:
What are those in the pic they look nice and plump. Never would have known about the patio acting as a heat sink. I'll keep radishes and strawberries in mind, dried homegrown strawberries must be so good. Whatever I grow I want to freeze dry or regular dry. I kind of want to get into the hobby of learning how to do all that drying so I have healthy food to snack on year round.

The ground on the side of my patio is sloped so idk how that would work and the cats hang out around the patio I don't know what to do. One part of the yard is open with no trees along with the patio. I was thinking raised beds apon a square mulch bed. Although it might be cheaper just to not do raised beds and just amend my own yard soil.
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those yellow fruit are Quince a horrid sour fruit...I'm expeimenting with home made jams (and THC/CBD) so far tasty but for the Quinces

I think any or the best advice to any new gardner is too plan ahead and GROW into this new hobby ....weed too

I keep cats to keep birds of my crops the latest addition did dump on my patio plants not the weed

but I did lay some barbed? thorny? branches from my gooseberries on the plant pot tops to deter the little shitters ...its worked well

so does a little training and bribery

only veg I've dried this year so far is the Chinese Chillies...

which I'm now making Ricks Rage/ a hot chillie sauce

Rick Stein a UK tv cook (https://www.rickstein.com/)

as for the slope I think to answer this it depends on what part of the country you are in

lots of rain or snow keep the slop if not raise her up

good luck
 
vostok

vostok

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truentgoon said:
Do you think just using compost, bone/blood meal, and turkey manure would work ok? Do I need any other important things to get started?
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the number one reason for growing veg and fruit is to cut costs and fresh food

blowing $$$$'s defeates this

but I do like the sound of turkey poop

keep it cheap -ish

good luckl
 
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