I Feel I’ve Done Everything..

Hey y’all! Hope you’re doin good.
Got back from crabbing for the weekend to find some big issues. One of my Icicles had nanners and balls everywhere.. no way I could pull em all of so I had to chop it.
Down to 3 left. Icicles, Farmers Fire, and ATF.
The ATF has been giving me some issues and I feel like I’ve tried everything.. I don’t know where to turn right now.

4x4x6 tent
480w Meijiu qb
5 gal Geopots
FFOF/Happy Frog with perlite and a good dose of EWC (5 parts ffof/ 5 parts hf/ 4 parts perlite/ 1 part EWC)
Tap water pH’ed to 6.2- Killer Tea every watering. Gave a dose of Big Bloom at flip. Silica first a few weeks before.
I thought cal or mag at first. I’ve been giving Epsom salts every few waterings anyway but I gave another dose of salt and then some calmag on the next watering. No change, kept getting worse.
Next I thought phosphorus deficiency. Red stems, blotchyness, leaves falling off.. maybe even just a really hungry plant. So I gave a dose of Jacks 10-30-20 and then a bigger one.
Every watering the plants got 1 gallon (5gal pots)of tap water pH’ed to 6.2.
I did a flush last night and the runoff was 6.0 pH.
Im at a loss.. this is my second grow but my first one went great all the way through. This one has been easy up until now too.. the Icicles and Farmers Fire seem to be doing fine in the same mix.
Any advice or help is so appreciated!!

Here’s the ATF (first pic, sick plant) and the Icicles (2nd pic, healthy plant) for comparison as well.

Im guessing youve got a little nutrient burn there. Interested to see what others say.

JoeBlow5823 said:

Im guessing youve got a little nutrient burn there. Interested to see what others say.

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Ya know, after the flush the leaf degradation seems to have slowed drastically. Makes me think you could be right.
Thanks for your response I appreciate it!

Weouthere said:

Ya know, after the flush the leaf degradation seems to have slowed drastically. Makes me think you could be right.
Thanks for your response I appreciate it!

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Yeah your dirt blend should have enough juice in it to grow very healthy plants until they actually start budding and maybe even longer than that. Excess nutrients can cause lockout of other nutrients so you think you have a deficiency but really the plant is just a little burnt.

If you really study up on this chart, you can see that an excess of one thing can look like deficiency of other nutrients so nutrient burn can make it a bit of a confusing shit show. I currently have several strains growing in super hot dirt and all of them are displaying varying levels of nutrient burn because each one has its own thresholds for what it can handle. One of them is showing almost no signs of burn and is growing insanely fast and healthy. The one that is the most burnt is a bit stunted but i know she will pull through and buy the time she is packing on a lot of flower mass, she will likey have the perfect amount of nutrients available to her. My issues are all minor and i would say yours are too. And with you saying a flush seemed to help that even farther indicates you were just feeding a little to much. If you were deficient, a flush would make things look worse.

Looks like burn to me too based on the pics. FFOF is ready to go, don’t really need anything else nutrient related until early flower, and that all depends on how long you veg.

Dontjudgeme said:

Looks like burn to me too based on the pics. FFOF is ready to go, don’t really need anything else nutrient related until early flower, and that all depends on how long you veg.

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Sweet thanks guys!! I only used the killer tea which is 0.2-0.2-0.2 in veg. I vegged for.. 7-8 weeks? Then top dressed right before I flipped with my soil mix. ill keep an eye on her the next couple days and just do pH’ed water with the tea for the next few waterings and see what happens.

So a different plant but I just noticed this on my icicles... what the hell the only thing I’ve seen says molybdenum def? Why are the leaves getting red/purple? Unless I’m way farther into flower than I realize man I don’t know.. new soil mix for sure on the next grow.