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SpectacularG

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nxsov180db said:
earlier I posted but you never responded. What's substantial runoff? You will not change the root zone ph or runoff ph unless you flush the shit out of the media. Yeah you can add some bs to your feed and you might see a difference in a month or two.. But if you want immediate results you need to flush with at least 2 gallons of feed per gallon of media.
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Ops ahahha thanks for calling me out ahahahha I was yes a bit worried because I haven't had done much research yet, it was also a way to trigger pity and have more answers but yeah you got me haha.
By substancial runoff I mean I fed 2 gallons of water distributed between the 50 pots and the I watered 4 gallons of feed, 2 of those gallons was runoff, but yeah ph didn't change much so you are correct and it definitely wasn't enough, I ll water again tomorrow even tho I watered before and hopefully this helps, I also put a very small quantity of lime
 
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SpectacularG said:
Ops ahahha thanks for calling me out ahahahha I was yes a bit worried because I haven't had done much research yet, it was also a way to trigger pity and have more answers but yeah you got me haha.
By substancial runoff I mean I fed 2 gallons of water distributed between the 50 pots and the I watered 4 gallons of feed, 2 of those gallons was runoff, but yeah ph didn't change much so you are correct and it definitely wasn't enough, I ll water again tomorrow even tho I watered before and hopefully this helps, I also put a very small quantity of lime
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well you're in coco mostly so no worries of overwatering right? So yeah when you water tomorrow just letter rip!
 
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nxsov180db said:
well you're in coco mostly so no worries of overwatering right? So yeah when you water tomorrow just letter rip!
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You would be correct if I only didn't have 30-40% castings and 5-10% vermiculite, these fckers retains so much moisture so I haven't incurred in it but I don't exclude a small overwatering issue
 
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SpectacularG said:
You would be correct if I only didn't have 30-40% castings and 5-10% vermiculite, these fckers retains so much moisture so I haven't incurred in it but I don't exclude a small overwatering issue
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I know vermiculite holds water but know nothing about castings.. but in either case once you have your runoff you've reached saturation anyway so you could water with an infinite amount and it wouldn't matter as far as overwatering is concerned..
 
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nxsov180db said:
I know vermiculite holds water but know nothing about castings.. but in either case once you have your runoff you've reached saturation anyway so you could water with an infinite amount and it wouldn't matter as far as overwatering is concerned..
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But if I saturate too frequently without a bit of dryback it could still be too much, honestly this medium is pretty forgiving and I might be gucci doing it since the pots are pretty small for the plants already but I wouldn't wanna risk it if I had a small plant in a big pot
 
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SpectacularG said:
But if I saturate too frequently without a bit of dryback it could still be too much, honestly this medium is pretty forgiving and I might be gucci doing it since the pots are pretty small for the plants already but I wouldn't wanna risk it if I had a small plant in a big pot
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You right about doing it too frequently but you only need to do the big flush one time, and since you've got 50 plants going try it with just one if your reluctant and see if it works..
 
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nxsov180db said:
You right about doing it too frequently but you only need to do the big flush one time, and since you've got 50 plants going try it with just one if your reluctant and see if it works..
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No actually you convinced me do to it again, when I did it was before I knew RO was the issue and I thought it was something else so I flushed with RO lol thinking about it now I may just have worsened the situation, so later or tomorrow Big flush with Tap water and after a tap water feed, hopefully it buffers the situation while I figure out how to buffer RO, my tap is trash very clorinated and it has a base EC of 0.7 lol

I am pretty sure a bit of lime and the crabmeal our dear growmie recommended before will do wonders in the future
 
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SpectacularG said:
No actually you convinced me do to it again, when I did it was before I knew RO was the issue and I thought it was something else so I flushed with RO lol thinking about it now I may just have worsened the situation, so later or tomorrow Big flush with Tap water and after a tap water feed, hopefully it buffers the situation while I figure out how to buffer RO, my tap is trash very clorinated and it has a base EC of 0.7 lol
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Yeah so another thing I was gonna mention was flushing with a low ec may not give any holding power to the mediums ph, since a low ec doesn't have a lot of power to change the ph of the medium, if that makes any sense? I feel like I could be wording this a lot better lol.
 
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Yeah so another thing I was gonna mention was flushing with a low ec may not give any holding power to the mediums ph, since a low ec doesn't have a lot of power to change the ph of the medium, if that makes any sense? I feel like I could be wording this a lot better lol.
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You mean that to properly buffer the soil, Cation exchance balance is purpose of this flush and to make sure that the soil is actually buffered I should put some kind of feed to balance the Ions an Anions, is that what you mean? I really don't know if that would be true but it makes a lot of sense, what Ec would you suggest for the job?

didn't word it that better lol

also why did you laugh emojy comment 75 about the lime? do you think its too little? that was about 20grams in total, package said 2.5lbs which is about 1200grams for 100 square feet, I am growing in 10 square feet... lol yes redoing the math if feels a bit conservative, but honestly I was trying to use bruce bugbee formula and do a quarter of what he said since his formula was for 50%peat and 50% vermiculite which he said is about 4.5ph so acidic, since I am not using peat and my soil is not at 4.5 but 5.5 and it comes out to be maybe 3 cubic feet I tough that could be enough.
His formula 40grams x cubic foot of medium at 4.5ph using peat which acidifies during time. But yeah still open to suggestions
 
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SpectacularG said:
You mean that to properly buffer the soil, Cation exchance balance is purpose of this flush and to make sure that the soil is actually buffered I should put some kind of feed to balance the Ions an Anions, is that what you mean? I really don't know if that would be true but it makes a lot of sense, what Ec would you suggest for the job?

didn't word it that better lol
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lol well ya worded it better than me I think.. so yeah for the ec you would just use you're normal feeding ec. What do you normally feed for an ec?
 
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nxsov180db said:
Oh ok, so I never heard anyone use a number that high for ec, is that how your meter displays it? it should be more like 1.6-1.7ec
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Its the same some people use millisiemes scale and some microsimiens (or something like that), is like centimeters and meters, they eventually tell the same distance, some tools are more precise and will use a higher decimal scale, end of the day 1700=1.7
 
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