Im devistated, cant catch a break /rant @ HC

Alright well im sure some of you know me ive been here for awhile and i continue to but i dont login/post quite often. Ive done some grow journals, helped some people get signed with kamerman back in the day...clone sources, i was a DG for someone on here, pest problem diagnosis the list goes on.

So on March 21st 2014 we were told that the mmar is under repeal and a judge pro-longed the program and grandfathered people in as of september 2013, well here is were it gets interesting and yes i just found out after popping 600$ worth of primo seeds

So from what people were saying is, "valid license september 2013? good to go" now i call HC to see if everything is A-OK before i light up the neighborhood and "nope, must be valid on the day of march 21st, your not legal to posses or cultivate...can i have the license number on your ATP?" (Ya fucking rite broad lol)

This is what the website says;

• Individuals must have held a valid Authorizations to Possess under the MMAR on March 21, 2014.
• Individuals must have held a valid Personal-Use Production Licence or Designated-Person Production Licence under the MMAR on, or after, September 30, 2013, where there is also an associated valid ATP as of March 21, 2014.

Why the hell do they need to be so damn sneeky? so i need to have a valid license on march 21st...but to grow i must have it on september 2013, but to grow you obvisouly need to posses...so it really needs to be valid on the 21st of march, why the fuck even mention september? what the hell does september 2013 have to do with anything? FYI; i expired march 1st 2014...20 days earlier of the damn injunction.

Everyone has run into that shady person somewere in there life were you dont leave your wallet,keys laying around with that person or that person goes behind your back and is just a pure fucking snake...i have reason to believe Health Canada rounds up all the rat basterds we have to offer in this country, throw them in the back fucking room and then when the head honchos say "fuck were loosing, how do we fuck the patients!!?" then they walk there ass all the way to the snake pit where those cock suckers are sitting and they make up these cock sucking rules.

I refuse to sign up with a LP, those money hungry cock suckers. Im hoping in late 2014/early 2015 a judge will reopen MMAR or atlest growing rites to patients or im fucking goneee, il go to california, michigan, wherever...

side note; is it true vancouver PD are not enforcing the new MMAR rules?

Help me out

signing off, one pissed off lower/middle class (not so proud rite now) citizen being bent over the table with no lube...not even some spit.

The injunction has failed to cover many people in similar and different situations. Conroy is trying to make changes to the injunction during his cross appeal as it has actually failed to even cover one of the plaintiffs in the challenge. That's all I really know and there hasn't been word of a date for the appeal/cross appeal that I know of yet.

j0yr1d3 said:

The injunction has failed to cover many people in similar and different situations. Conroy is trying to make changes to the injunction during his cross appeal as it has actually failed to even cover one of the plaintiffs in the challenge. That's all I really know and there hasn't been word of a date for the appeal/cross appeal that I know of yet.

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Thanks joyride, i didnt know about this. Im going to email conroy. Im also going to follow up with the privacy comissioner over the mailout security breach, im going to my doctor for a letter, im brining it to my MP and im declaring war. Im the layed back kinda guy, leave everyone alone always the peace keeper, never ask anyone for anything but when someone needs a helping hand im on my feet ready to go...fuck it, it doesnt work. Being the nice guy trying to help and getting walked all over just doesnt do anything anymore. Health Canada is so damn sneeky it makes me cringe!

The day i get my MMAR back is the day i buy 50+ acres up north and well...you know the rest

ah well forget it, cleaning the house, starting the BBQ and having a fat "F-U Health Canada" joint..

that' s the spirit....Bigmanc don't let them Bring you down...

I say do your own thing. Do what you were allowed to do. As of February 15th. Take a look at what happens in court and go from there.

I was going to do a big raffle (from different hydro equipment suppliers) for donations to Conroy but put a stop to it as after the injunction he and his followers were all over the net/youtube stating grow grow grow and then a few week later he's saying the HC is interpreting the March 21 APT expiry correctly and to go get a prescription under section 56 of Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. LOL yah I tried several doctors and none of them wanted anything to do with it and either would sign paper work to a companion club or the and LP, for a fee of course.

I'd say go for it....the courts and these cases are so fucked up right now that I would not think you be convicted by any judge right now. Just stay with-in your original paper work parameters. You had a valid PPL and ATP correct? Did I get that right? As far as I'm thinking do it...quietly'

Remember HC is not a court and does not make the rules (legally). They may state their rules as they see them, but at this point a judge is really in charge.

Thanks for the posts guys, ive been doing some digging and from what im finding. Two yes 2!!! HC reps flat our lied to me.

I ask all to review my evidence:

Interview with Urban Grower and John conroy himself. Start the video and watch up until 2:30

ALSO, FUCKING ALSO!

[126]
In effect, the Applicants seek the regulatory schem
e as it was under the MMAR and do not
object to the provisions of the MMPR that relate to
private growers. The way in which this can be
accomplished in a manner least intrusive to the leg
islative sphere is to exempt those who currently
hold a valid ATP, who held a valid DPL or PPL as of
September 30, 2013, or hold a valid amended
or new DPL or PPL that was issued after September 3
0, 2013, from the repeal of the MMAR and
any provisions of the MMPR which are inconsistent w
ith the relevant provisions of the MMAR,
pending an expeditious trial and a decision of this
case on its merits.
[127]
In other words, those individuals who are authorize
d to possess or produce marihuana, as of
the relevant dates, may continue to do after March
31, 2014, until their constitutional rights with
respect to the MMPR are decided at trial.

Tell me what you all think, conroy himself says im good plus the judge...tell me what to do guys, please dont side with me and leave this up as a non-biased decision that will go for/or against me, honesty is key.

Part 2; new evidence

http://www.johnconroy.com/MMARlitigation.htm

URGENT UPDATE: APRIL 2, 2014
Those who have "possession" ATP expiry before March 21, 2014 should get an authorization from their doctor under reg 53 of the Narcotic Control regs to the same effect (dosage) to cover them if they still have valid Ppl/DG September 30, 2013. I think Health Canada is correct in their interpretation and we will need to consider trying to fix this on cross appeal.
- John Conroy QC

So i go to doctor and say "hey look, there dicking around i need you to sign this?" then that form basically says "hey i would be valid if i could be"

yay or nay?

and also;


What it means for patients:

Those who have "possession" ATP expiry before March 21, 2014 should get an authorization from their doctor under reg 53 of the Narcotic Control regs to the same effect (dosage) to cover them if they still have valid Ppl/DG September 30, 2013. I think Health Canada is correct in their interpretation and we will need to consider trying to fix this on cross appeal.
- John Conroy QC

It can be a letter or simply a form authorizing the patient or even a prescription form. It should simply replicate what was put in the MMAR document with respect to the authorized possession and grams per day and be signed by the doctor simply in compliance with regulations 53.

I think that since your licence expired in 2014, you would be in possession as of Sept. 2013.I didn't think that anything had changed. If you had a valid ATP and PUPL as of September 30, 2013, you are covered by the injunction. If you let it lapse after that you're not covered. Is this not correct? If this is not correct someone please tell me when it changed?

My license expired March 1st(First) of 2014. I have had my license valid for 3 years prior. I have called Health Canada 2 times (before conroy said health canada interpretation is for march 21st 2014, go get a letter from your doctor to make september 30th valid) Im calling HC and i just left a message at conroys office. Im growing, forget it!!!

Yes my license was valid on septemeber 30th 2013. Both licenses, paper work in hand.

Go for it.......fuck the Diaz Brother's

DO NOT GET RID OF THOSE PINK SHEETS!! I would say you are safe unless someone tells me that I interpreted the decision wrongly.

bigmanc said:

Part 2; new evidence

http://www.johnconroy.com/MMARlitigation.htm

URGENT UPDATE: APRIL 2, 2014
Those who have "possession" ATP expiry before March 21, 2014 should get an authorization from their doctor under reg 53 of the Narcotic Control regs to the same effect (dosage) to cover them if they still have valid Ppl/DG September 30, 2013. I think Health Canada is correct in their interpretation and we will need to consider trying to fix this on cross appeal.
- John Conroy QC

So i go to doctor and say "hey look, there dicking around i need you to sign this?" then that form basically says "hey i would be valid if i could be"

yay or nay?

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I had my regs wrong its under reg 53 of the Narcotic Control regs and yes no doctor that I asked would do it. Either compassion club papers or LP papers.

Pink papers are in my possession (2years worth actually, plus application photo copies)

@CannaReview, so if my doc who signed my MMAR gives me a note im good?

WHATFG said:

DO NOT GET RID OF THOSE PINK SHEETS!! I would say you are safe unless someone tells me that I interpreted the decision wrongly.

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I just photo copy mine in color. They all look the same and i have many copies. Cop never blinked an eye when he looked at it.

CannaReview said:

I had my regs wrong its under reg 53 of the Narcotic Control regs and yes no doctor that I asked would do it. Either compassion club papers or LP papers.

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Someone needs to explain this to me...if your papers expired before March 31, 2014. You have to get an exemption? What happened to being approved on Sept30, 2014? I thought this only affected the outliers that got caught in between programs?