inconsistent fan leaves

Lara vanhousen

Lara vanhousen

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running a few new crosses i received from a friend. Fan leaves are producing 3, 4, and 5 blade fan leaves at random... is this genetics? Or an issue thats on my part? Only the strains that were crossed with the same mom are showing this... I thought it would eventually grow out of it but after a few months of veg now still no change.....
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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It is nothing to worry about. Its just a genetic deformity. I have read somewhere that deficiencies or toxicity can also do this... and also ph balance issues.
I grew a plant last year that only had 3 leaves the whole time. Turned out just fine.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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It can pertain to the plants age as a signal to the plants stress level.

Any leaf sets being LESS then 5 indicate some form of stress - generally nutrient related. This is NORMAL for plants from seeds or from clones to do this as small plants, until some point in the solo cup stage! They are expending great amounts of energy to reach a "balance" of foliage to growth ratio.
IF the low leaf set continues or reappears later...My guess would be nutrient or lighting problems as first on my list of culprits.
 
Lara vanhousen

Lara vanhousen

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Dr. Who said:
It can pertain to the plants age as a signal to the plants stress level.

Any leaf sets being LESS then 5 indicate some form of stress - generally nutrient related. This is NORMAL for plants from seeds or from clones to do this as small plants, until some point in the solo cup stage! They are expending great amounts of energy to reach a "balance" of foliage to growth ratio.
IF the low leaf set continues or reappears later...My guess would be nutrient or lighting problems as first on my list of culprits.
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The other 9 strains i have in the room are totally fine... Perharps these strains have different needs both being from the same mom.... any idea what the nute problem would be? Im guessing the lighting is fine.... Any I think one of them is on about the 4th month of veg... these are my full season girls so im getting stressed
 
Lara vanhousen

Lara vanhousen

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ganga gurl420 said:
It is nothing to worry about. Its just a genetic deformity. I have read somewhere that deficiencies or toxicity can also do this... and also ph balance issues.
I grew a plant last year that only had 3 leaves the whole time. Turned out just fine.
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Out of curiosity do you remeber the strain name? And production and potency were fine compared to the rest of the crop?
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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Lara vanhousen said:
Out of curiosity do you remeber the strain name? And production and potency were fine compared to the rest of the crop?
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It was a sativa dom called serious 6. Was big beautiful and potent. (My avatar is from that very plant I grew) I only grew that one seed of that strain. All the other strains were normal. All the same soil too.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Lara vanhousen said:
The other 9 strains i have in the room are totally fine... Perharps these strains have different needs both being from the same mom.... any idea what the nute problem would be? Im guessing the lighting is fine.... Any I think one of them is on about the 4th month of veg... these are my full season girls so im getting stressed
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Whats the strain?
What do you feed and how much, how often?

Packaged or built soil?

I would like to "see" a pic of it, if you could! That would go miles in telling me what I need to know, to make a quality response.

I'm inclined to agree with your different strain thought...
 
Cpappa27

Cpappa27

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I also think the amount of light affects the leave size and blade count. I may be wrong but I swear I read it somewhere a while back and I cant find the article to reference it to.
 
Lara vanhousen

Lara vanhousen

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Dr. Who said:
Whats the strain?
What do you feed and how much, how often?

Packaged or built soil?

I would like to "see" a pic of it, if you could! That would go miles in telling me what I need to know, to make a quality response.

I'm inclined to agree with your different strain thought...
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straight coco coir... feed at least once a day.... if not twice they need to be transplanted soon....

I have an idea of the strains used to create but am waiting to hear back from the breeder to be sure..... Pretty sure a land race... which one im not sure was involved.... Not a camera person.. ill have to wait for a buddy to come over and take pictures
Cpappa27 said:
I also think the amount of light affects the leave size and blade count. I may be wrong but I swear I read it somewhere a while back and I cant find the article to reference it to.
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Talked to a buddy last night over a few drinks.... the rooms a mix of hps and mh.... he brought up that it might be because of hps hitting them more.... but drinks were involved and the room seems mixed enough...
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Lara vanhousen said:
straight coco coir... feed at least once a day.... if not twice they need to be transplanted soon....

I have an idea of the strains used to create but am waiting to hear back from the breeder to be sure..... Pretty sure a land race... which one im not sure was involved.... Not a camera person.. ill have to wait for a buddy to come over and take pictures


Talked to a buddy last night over a few drinks.... the rooms a mix of hps and mh.... he brought up that it might be because of hps hitting them more.... but drinks were involved and the room seems mixed enough...
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Ah, HAH! Coco and daily feeding (you still didn't tell me what you feeding and how much)......
I'll bet it's a Sativa and it says your over feeding it....Sativa's - especially landrace one's can be quite fussy about nutrients..

Reduce feedings to every other day for that plant. Increase s-l-o-w-l-y if NEED be......The plant will tell you....

I take it you've run this method before and not had problems - correct?

LIGHT mixing is a NO problem issue! So no, NOT a lighting issue at all.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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Dr. Who said:
It can pertain to the plants age as a signal to the plants stress level.

Any leaf sets being LESS then 5 indicate some form of stress - generally nutrient related. This is NORMAL for plants from seeds or from clones to do this as small plants, until some point in the solo cup stage! They are expending great amounts of energy to reach a "balance" of foliage to growth ratio.
IF the low leaf set continues or reappears later...My guess would be nutrient or lighting problems as first on my list of culprits.
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I have a couple of plants that never produce more than 5 blades. Had an og in 2007ish that never put out more than 3 blades per leaf. Thought tk was like this as well. My Tahoe puts out 3s 4s 5s and 6s. Almost never 7. Sometimes it's just a strains thing.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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kmog33 said:
I have a couple of plants that never produce more than 5 blades. Had an og in 2007ish that never put out more than 3 blades per leaf. Thought tk was like this as well. My Tahoe puts out 3s 4s 5s and 6s. Almost never 7. Sometimes it's just a strains thing.
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Really? Hmmm. I've never had a plant "normally" put out 3's & 4's...
 
kmog33

kmog33

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Dr. Who said:
Really? Hmmm. I've never had a plant "normally" put out 3's & 4's...
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Never grown out tk? That one kicks out 3s pretty constantly.(tk pics are stolen I can find any pics of when I was running it but it looks right. )


Og


So I mean maybe you're just missing some of the big name strains that have been floating around for years, but Ime the best nug comes from strains that kick out 7s at most occasionally, but generally 3s and 5s are a good sign. That 4 bladed trait pops up on almost every old og I've run as well, and it passes to progeny.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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kmog33 said:
Never grown out tk? That one kicks out 3s pretty constantly.(tk pics are stolen I can find any pics of when I was running it but it looks right. )


Og


So I mean maybe you're just missing some of the big name strains that have been floating around for years, but Ime the best nug comes from strains that kick out 7s at most occasionally, but generally 3s and 5s are a good sign. That 4 bladed trait pops up on almost every old og I've run as well, and it passes to progeny.
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I would have gone nuts over that at first! LOL
 
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