Interested in becoming Responsible Caregiver to Responsible Patient

Ive decided to head to Colorado in search of freedom in many forms, and the wide open spaces. I have now grown through more than a dozen plants and feel I can comfortably tend to the needs of two patients under current law.

I am interested in becoming a patient myself due to chronic pain and disability and there are many other reasons for me to move your way.

After quite some meditation, it dawned on me that I might have a knack at this and I do based on glowing reports from the field. Since my first I have learned many lessons and simply need to save up some funds to get out west. If I had the opportunity to hit the ground running and at least one patient to be a caregiver for, I could be producing your medicine under strict conditions within 16 weeks.

Send me a message if you are interested. If there is a Co-op opportunity or suggestion I would love to start in good hands anywhere. I dont know what the quality or the economy of the market there is like but I am confident I could provide high quality medicine at competitive prices *because Im not interested in chasing money.*

I need to alleviate my own pain. I have a skill that can benefit, and has already benefited others and I feel I should utilize this skill to provide for my family and the well being of others. It is very important that any patients interested be positive individuals because if we enter into a contract I will only do so with those of true, good hearts. I know it sounds corny, but like I said, not in it for the money.

I talk a lot. I ask a lot of questions. I can impart a lot of knowledge. Above all, I seek to live in freedom and tranquility with everyone around me, and affect positive change as well. I have the tendency to write a lot in my communication because I like communication. It is healthy. If you can handle these things and are a competent, responsible adult in need of quality patient care, send me a message and lets start some dialogue.

It would be great to become a caretaker for someone with an open mind about everything in the world, someone we could hike/camp with, someone who we can develop a close bond with. We are entering into a period of great change and we must learn to regroup as small, tightly knit communities of families helping one another, because we cannot possess every skill needed in life. We have to lean on one another in order to achieve progress.

I believe that medical marijuana and several other natural plants can change some of the negative aspects of the world right now and would ease our transitions.

Lets consider our conversation to be an interview between two parties, to be exchanged over AIM or something. I would rather keep anonymity as well for the time being. I want to be 100% legal and so personal knowledge/experience in the matter would be extra helpful. I am willing to create or enter into a fair contract as well.

I look forward to any interest!

I wanted to add that I could also see a service in which your entire operation could be in your own home or on your own property, and I visit on a set schedule and try to be as minimally invasive as possible. This way you can have the alotted 6 plants as per law, and dont have to worry about how your medicine is being treated when you cant see it. It is here I would also be willing to educate the patient as well; teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime. [Its much better to learn to grow your own high quality medicine, so it is free except for upkeep. Growing your own is rewarding.] Besides, im not looking for a job.

For $600 start I believe I could give you a return on your money in the following harvest, in around 16 weeks. For instance, I could charge $600 to acquire materials necessary, set up/install, and maintain during growth. Then, you keep all the material since its yours! You could simply pay me a flat fee to maintain the crop or something on those lines. Just some ideas.

you and the hundreds of others with the same idea

Medical Marijuana Patients May Lose Driving Privileges

ACTION ALERT: Stop HB 11-1261, the THC/DUI Bill

In the third major attack on medical marijuana patient rights in Colorado
to come out of the state legislature this year, House Bill 11-1261 was
introduced on Mon., Feb. 14, 2011. This bill would declare that anyone
found driving with 5 nanogram/milliliters or more of THC in their
bloodstream would be guilty of "DUI per se" and subject to a misdemeanor
offense and the possible revocation of their driver's license. You can read
the full bill on the state's website:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/

The bill was introduced by Rep. Claire Levy (D-Boulder) and Rep. Mark
Waller (R-El Paso County), both members of the House Judiciary Committee.
The bill was introduced by Rep. Levy, an attorney, in order to curb an
imaginary crisis of "stoned drivers" in Colorado. Despite repeated requests
from CTI, Rep. Levy has failed to point to one case where marijuana was the
sole cause of any traffic accident.

Research shows that there is no correlation between THC blood levels and
impairment. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration released a
study in 2004 which shows that chronic cannabis users, such as medical
marijuana patients, normally average a much higher concentration of THC in
their bloodstream than 5 ng/mL AND that this does not necessarily cause
impairment.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/job185drugs/cannabis.htm

Dr. Robert J. Meladmede, a University of Colorado biology professor and CEO
of Colorado Springs-based Cannabis Science, says the Rep. Levy's thinking
on this is backwards. He stated that casual users will have often have
lower levels than 5 ng/mL and may actually be impaired, while frequent
users will have higher levels in their bloodstream, yet not be impaired.
Click here to read Dr. Bob's full letter and research:
http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/bills/dui/drbob.let.html

NANOGRAM LIMIT ARBITRARY, NOT OBJECTIVE
Rep. Levy states that currently there is no nanogram limit on THC and that
currently any amount of THC is enough to prove impairment. She believes
that setting a limit will make the law more objective. However, in the
absence of any problem, this will only make it easier for courts to convict
patients of impaired driving, whether they were actually impaired or not.
Instead of setting an arbitrary limit on THC in the bloodstream, more
research needs to be done on better roadside impairment tests and training,
to help determine whether people are impaired from any cause. There is no
nanogram limit for oxycontin or other drugs that may impair drivers.
Medical marijuana patients are once again treated like second-class
citizens for their choice of medicine. Rep. Levy wants to force cannabis
patients back onto their prescription medications, which are not routinely
tested for by law enforcement.

FORCED BLOOD EXTRACTION
This bill will also force anyone suspected of driving under the influence
of THC to give their blood to the government. Currently, a suspected
impaired driver has the choice of a urine test or a blood test. Since the
nanogram limits can only be tested for in the blood, patients will be
subjected to an involuntary extraction of their blood if they are ever
stopped by the police.

DMV TO ISSUE PATIENT ID CARDS
The Department of Revenue stated last year that they intended to issue
their new medical marijuana patient ID cards through the Colorado
Department of Motor Vehicles. Will patients now be asked to surrender their
driver's licenses when they apply for a medical marijuana card? This is
another example of the state requiring you to surrender your Constitutional
rights to cannabis medicine in exchange for the "privilege" of driving.

THIRD MEDICAL MARIJUANA ATTACK BILL
This is the third bill introduced in the state legislature this year
attacking the rights of patients (HB1243, the Patient Rights Elimination
"Cleanup Bill", HB1250, the Medical Marijuana Edible Products Ban, and
HB1261, the Medical Marijuana DUI Bill). All have been assigned to the
House Judiciary Committee. If you haven't written them yet on these bills,
please do so now. See below

@colonuggs: How many put that idea into practice rather just thinking about it? I have things wound a bit tighter than I will admit to on an internet board. All I need is my foot in the door and im working on it. =)

@angelsbandit: I saw this legislation but I dont think it will affect as much as it sounds like it would. Any medical marijuana patient would have much more than the miniscule 5ng THC in their system... and as far as I know urinaysis tests detect 50ng while the mouth swab can be thrown off by brushing the teeth etc. SO... with the gov indebted in the trillions and the layoffs of police and all that shit, I dont feel too worried. Besides, maybe a new market of Pot-Taxis will be created to chauffeur potheads around. I cant even fathom the tremendous costs of this.

Besides, as a corporation, if the state passes laws I dont like, I will just move to another state since we have that freedom. That was the whole intention of all the different states. If you didnt like bullshit laws in New England, move westward. There will always be progressives and I like travel and meeting new people. =) Johnny Pot-Seed

Do not expect people to pay you to be there caregiver, there is hundreds upon hundreds of "caregivers" here who will gladly make you a patient for free, and in many cases give you incentives to be their patient. You have grown a dozen plants? You mean at once right? Not total? Cause i know i am not going to pay you $600 to learn how to grow on my plants, plenty of guys who would gladly do that for free.
You say "Besides, as a corporation, if the state passes laws I dont like, I will just move to another state since we have that freedom. That was the whole intention of all the different states. If you didnt like bullshit laws in New England, move westward. There will always be progressives and I like travel and meeting new people. =) Johnny Pot-Seed" But there is several issues in this one little statement, first of all is as a caregiver you are not a corporation, you are an individual. Second, you act like if the laws change you are out of here, what kind of caregiver is that? I paid you $600 you decided the laws here suck (oh and believe us they do, make sure you do a lot of research) you are leaving town and i am out $600.
You asked about co-op's, the only type of Co-op that is legal in colorado is a MMC (dispensary) and they really are not a co-op. At this point there is a statewide moratorium on new dispensaries until november, with a new law trying to (or maybe has) pushed that another year down the line.
Seriously though, the one thing i really want to get across here is our market is horribly flooded, our laws are the strictest in the nation, and NO ONE is going to pay you to grow for them.

@TruenoAE86coupe:

Thank you most kindly for the reality check. I looked at Colorado statistics as according to the regulator themself, and found there were 94,xxx patients and therefore could by law sustain a market of under 19,000 caregivers and apparently began nothing more than a statistical daydream. (looks good on paper...)

I will be working with a CSA op in the future and figured I could combine what I would be doing anyway. I totally didnt know that most caregivers did so for free. I have no problem sharing that which should be readily available to those in need, but I thought that caretakers offered a different route than the dispensary.

My reference to corporation was an ill played statement on my part, makes me look like an ass indeed. I was high. =)

And again, thank you for your concise response. I was unaware of how flooded the market was there and now I know. There are no entrepreneurial opportunities, okay. Now, for the laws being the strictest in the country, being a native(?), I understand your position on Caretaking.

Are you also saying that I shouldnt come to Colorado as a MM patient to find relief for my disability? I have chronic pain in my back incurred from military service that certainly affects me physically, my concentration and sleep, and documented for 10 years. I'm moving westward and have plans but are not totally set on a location though my heart is in Colorado.

You seem to be knowledgeable in the information that I really need to know, and would love any information you might be willing to impart.

Namaste

Colorado is a great state to be a patient in, currently, some laws on the table that may change that (no edibles wtf?), and a lot that are making it harder to be a caregiver. We get a fair amount of this on here, a lot of people thinking there is a fortune to be made by coming out here and being a caregiver. So do i think you should move to Colorado for the meds, sure why not, but the jobs market isn't much better than the rest of the country, and everyone and his brother wants to be a caregiver, everybody with their own knowledge and interpretations of the current set of laws.
One of the current laws is that you can not sell to anyone that is not your patient, get on denvers craigslist health and beauty section, you will see dozens of ads for meds for sale from caregivers to patients, thinking they are in the right to be able to do this as long as you have your card. Gives you a good idea of what bud around here is going for also, not hard to find a good quality oz for $200 nor a fire oz for $250.
Your statics forgot one crucial part, Dispensaries, they have a very large number of the caregiver rights for the state, as they must grow 70% of their own product at this point. Now think of all the guys who wouldn't let anyone grow for them, and your statics have gone down dramatically. Then there is the fact this is colorado and we have never had a hard time finding bud, legal or not, so when everyone decided legal was the way to go, a lot of people took their years of experience and set up shop, hb 12-1084 killed a lot of them, but just put some back "underground". Also by my figures about 20% of smokers actually got the card, 80% or so did not, so the underground market is still huge.
Rambling a bit i think, but Colorado is a great state, but we are leading the nation in stupid laws, and seems like we may get a few more prizes before long.
I have to ask what is a CSA op?
If you have any questions feel free to ask, i will answer what i can, there are several better versed, better spoken members on here who are a lot of help also, looking your way SoCoMMJ.
O yeah, your avatar totally got me, i was high talking to the wife and the damn thing was in the corner of my eye, i tried to smash it, didn't work. LoL. Good luck man.

hate to say it too, but Trueno is correct. beautiful state to live in, love the peeps here, some of the best herb on the planet ..... but it's a flooded market with more bullshit in rules every day. believe me, I WISH this weren't the case. The 2 states that most other MMJ states look at for how to define their own rules/regulations are California (not-for-profit biz model) and Colorado (for profit biz model) - so we get to be the guinea pigs. it really is a huge pain in the ass to deal with, especially if not established already. If you are not set on Colorado, you may also want to consider another state that is just getting started (like Arizona?) so you get in early rather then late (like here). good luck with your decision. either way, being able to (State) legally posses and grow your own is a big relief emotionally and financially.