is she ready!? Storm accelerated growth and maduration! X-PLANT

zappaa

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Hi all.

So yesterday there was a huge storm and i have an outdoors plant several weeks into flowering.
She was almost ready, but 50% of the pistils were brown.
After the strom, 100%:clap: of the were BROWN!!

But, i saw through a microscope the tricromes, and they are milky white.
Like 10% of them were brownish...



Should i cut her?
Should i have to wait for the tricromes or the pistils rule?
 

darkdestruction420

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trichomes are a better indicator, some people chop at all cloudy, if you want a head high and are happy with the plants buds size and density go ahead, but the last 2 weeks is when you gain most of the bud mass/density.
 

zappaa

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density has stoped a week and half ago.

im waiting for the best day to chop. i want a head high.

if tricromes are whitty and just 10% brown, and i chop, will she loose power?
 

darkdestruction420

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what do you mean by power? as for it not adding density the last 2 weeks, thats normal, at around 2 weeks to go it will go back into adding density to the buds as much as it possibley can. this lull in between the 2 stages is normal.
 

jdizzle22

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density has stoped a week and half ago.

im waiting for the best day to chop. i want a head high.

if tricromes are whitty and just 10% brown, and i chop, will she loose power?
Brown/Amber trichomes = Degraded THC

So yes the more of them you see the less power the bud has
 

djruiner

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Brown/Amber trichomes = Degraded THC

So yes the more of them you see the less power the bud has
when the brown/amber trichs starts is when the thc is degrading...but when the thc breaks down..that raises its cbd levels...giving it the more couchlock effect....if its a sativa...the cbd levels will always remain low...so waiting for amber trichs on a sativa is pointless...the thc will drop...and the cbd will stay the same..with an indica as the thc breaks down..the cbd will rise....while the thc % will stay the same..so if you growing a sativa...chop when its all milky..thats its highest thc point...with an indica...chop at 50/50 to get a mix of both head/body high..its not only about its thc content depending on what your growing and the type of high you want
 

Pureblood89

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when the brown/ambertrichs starts is when the thc is degrading...but when the thc breaks down..that raises its cbd levels...giving it the more couchlock effect....if its a sativa...the cbd levels will always remain low...so waiting for amber trichs on a sativa is pointless...the thc will drop...and the cbd will stay the same..with an indica as the thc breaks down..the cbd will rise...so if you growing a sativa...chop when its all milky..thats its highest thc point...with an indica...chop at 50/50 to get a mix of both head/body high..its not only about its thc content depending on what your growing and the type of high you want
you're thinking of cannabinol (cnd) not cannabidiol (cbd). cbn is oxidized thc.
 

djruiner

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you're thinking of cannabinol (cnd) not cannabidiol (cbd). cbn is oxidized thc.
that metabolic breakdown happens during storage...not while its still growing...the level of cbn will change depending on its storage (curing) environment
 

djruiner

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here is a list i found that lists some cannabinoids and what they do and how they are obtained....

THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.

CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.
Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.

CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.
CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment. Marijuana should be dry prior to storage, and may have to be dried again after being stored somewhere that is humid.

THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner. Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.

CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.

CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.
If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of cannabis to produce the various qualities you seek. A medical user looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.
Another user looking for a more energetic high will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD. In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has higher amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa.
 

djruiner

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Basically you already missed the high you want by a few days. Chopp immediately.
depends on what type of plant it is...if its a sativa it needs chopped...thc is at its highest with sativa at all cloudy...if its an indica then it should be chopped at 50/50 trichs
 

zappaa

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djruiner, your info is really interesting!

I chopped my plant today.
She had all tricromes really cloudy and white!
now im drying the buds in a dark closet.

do you have a good guide on how to dry and then cure my buds?

Thnx a lot!
 

djruiner

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djruiner, your info is really interesting!

I chopped my plant today.
She had all tricromes really cloudy and white!
now im drying the buds in a dark closet.

do you have a good guide on how to dry and then cure my buds?

Thnx a lot!
there are many different methods to dry and cure...this is just how i do it...after chop i trim off all the bigger fan leaves..then depending on the size i hang the whole plant...or chop it down to a few smaller branches then hang it...dry time will vary for each plant...bud size and density will really make if vary the most..can take anywhere from 2-10 days to dry enough for cure..i wait till it starts feeling crisp on the outside..but can still tell theres moisture inside when i press a bud between my fingers...some wait till the stems snap to start cure..i get mine to about the point of snapping..but still has some bend to it...after its dry i place it in my jars with a hygrometer...i wait for the humidity inside to be around 6o before i store it to cure...anything over that and mold might set in...if it is over that i open the jars and move the bud around twice a day and leave the top off for about 30-45 minutes till the humidity is around 60...if its dried too long and has only a little moisture left and its humidity is 55 or under..its not going to cure properly...some people only cure for a small time..some cure for up to a year...from what ive seen it needs to cure at least a month...but some strains start getting a really good smell around 2 weeks...each strain can be different as it comes to cure times....i hope that helps and i didnt ramble on too much
 

Stinkmeaner

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does curing improve the high? does it raise THC or sum?
or is it just for the taste and smooth burning we cure? i dont get it

i mean, do i have to cure it in order for it to be at its peak performance (powerwise)
reason im askin is that im gon sell a lil sum sum to a friends friend and i aint got no time to be curin his shit. (he a raggady bastard, thats why)
 

djruiner

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does curing improve the high? does it raise THC or sum?
or is it just for the taste and smooth burning we cure? i dont get it

i mean, do i have to cure it in order for it to be at its peak performance (powerwise)
reason im askin is that im gon sell a lil sum sum to a friends friend and i aint got no time to be curin his shit. (he a raggady bastard, thats why)
dry and cure is to get it smokable...if its not dried and cured it wont burn properly...and will taste like hay covered asshole..imo....its not going to raise your thc any..but it can degrade the thc into other cannabinoids...doing that all depends on the grower..and the people smoking it...and even know the guy is a prick...dont hurt the herb to get it to him...karma is a bitch...and always remember...its a friends friend that will get you busted...sell him shitty weed...might be more likely to roll over on you
 

Stinkmeaner

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well of course dryin makes is smokeable. i was just curious about the curin part :P
and my friends friend dont know that im tha one who grows it. i dont wanna get back at him or nothin but the dickhead is startin to get on my nerves askin me "can you get me some weed man, i know you can" so i just wanna quick dry that shit , sell it and be on my way. and curin takes some time, so i thought i maybe sell him some uncured weed just to stop the nag. and now that i know curin dont raise no THC , ima just sell him potent nastytastin buds without fucking him over :)
 

zappaa

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Thnx bro!!!

there are many different methods to dry and cure...this is just how i do it...after chop i trim off all the bigger fan leaves..then depending on the size i hang the whole plant...or chop it down to a few smaller branches then hang it...dry time will vary for each plant...bud size and density will really make if vary the most..can take anywhere from 2-10 days to dry enough for cure..i wait till it starts feeling crisp on the outside..but can still tell theres moisture inside when i press a bud between my fingers...some wait till the stems snap to start cure..i get mine to about the point of snapping..but still has some bend to it...after its dry i place it in my jars with a hygrometer...i wait for the humidity inside to be around 6o before i store it to cure...anything over that and mold might set in...if it is over that i open the jars and move the bud around twice a day and leave the top off for about 30-45 minutes till the humidity is around 60...if its dried too long and has only a little moisture left and its humidity is 55 or under..its not going to cure properly...some people only cure for a small time..some cure for up to a year...from what ive seen it needs to cure at least a month...but some strains start getting a really good smell around 2 weeks...each strain can be different as it comes to cure times....i hope that helps and i didnt ramble on too much
 
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