Is there banana there ? How to improve health of thoses plants ?

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vernoook

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Hi, i have 2 auto outdoor and I am wondering if there are not bananas developping there. There is something sus but i do not know if those are bananas or just the top of the cola.
Photos are not great, best i can do.
Thanks

Bonus question : how long do you think i have to wait before harvesting the plant in the last picture ( not so great photo again )
 

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vernoook

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cool, thanks for the response.
A month ( the last picture, an other plant )! gosh it was supposed to be ready 2 weeks ago according to the seedbank. I get that it is just indicative and the weather here as been quite bad. But still i didnt expect such a difference. I expected maybe 1 or 2 weeks.
 
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ProPheT 216

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Your plant is very stressed and deficient.

Skinny, twisting, pale green to yellow leaves. She may be about to hermie on you from stress no lie
 
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vernoook said:
cool, thanks for the response.
A month ( the last picture, an other plant )! gosh it was supposed to be ready 2 weeks ago according to the seedbank. I get that it is just indicative and the weather here as been quite bad. But still i didnt expect such a difference. I expected maybe 1 or 2 weeks.
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When did you start your week count for breeder recommended finishing time? At germination?
 
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vernoook

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I know they dont look very good. I had a couple of problem with it ( rootbound, lack of food, low light, pests, cold )
Here is the picture on a full plant. it is horribly rootbound i believe.
The second one is in a larger pot but dont look better ( it had issue at the start, maybe light burn )

I am a newbee and welcome any suggestion to improve

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vernoook said:
cool, thanks for the response.
A month ( the last picture, an other plant )! gosh it was supposed to be ready 2 weeks ago according to the seedbank. I get that it is just indicative and the weather here as been quite bad. But still i didnt expect such a difference. I expected maybe 1 or 2 weeks.
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Every rime you overwater or dont water you make it longer every time the sun is hidden with clouds it takes longer.....
 
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vernoook

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warble said:
She looks good. I would look for whatever is putting holes in your leaf. You don't want to lose to bugs.
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There are plenty of bugs around, thrips, caterpillar, cricket, ladybug :), spiders ... The garden is not very well kept ( not my task )
I unfortunately cant do much at this point i guess. I inspect carefully the plants every other day and remove what i find ( mostly some eggs below leaves and a couple of thrips ( at least i thing it is that ).

I did a spray with nem oil when younger, witch damaged the leaves as you can see on the bottom of the plants, was probably too concentrated.

I would do more but from what i have read, there is not much you can do when flowering, and i certainly dont want to smoke nasty stuff.
 
Hugo Phurst

Hugo Phurst

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Remove the lower 2 or 3 sets of branches for air circulation. Get rid of the yellow and damaged leaves.
Try to get the most direct sun possible (6hrs min IMO).
Next year use much bigger pots 10 gallon minimum. Last years autos filled 25 gal pots.

Look pretty good to me.

Have fun
 
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vernoook

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Hugo Phurst said:
Remove the lower 2 or 3 sets of branches for air circulation. Get rid of the yellow and damaged leaves.
Try to get the most direct sun possible (6hrs min IMO).
Next year use much bigger pots 10 gallon minimum. Last years autos filled 25 gal pots.

Look pretty good to me.

Have fun
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Thx,
-Do you think removing lower branch is usefull outdoor ? i thought it was for indoor.
-I kept the yellowing leaves as a buffer as i have trouble keeping up with the feeding ( small pot ), but it might be wrong. I removed some already.
- yeah that pot is absurdly small, the other one is around 4 gallon ( 15 liters ). I thought that would be enough. 10 gallon is huge, i might try that next year.
- For sun, they have direct access to sun ( minus 1h/day because houses around ), the problem is that it is early in the season and the weather as been horrible. As a counter mesure i recently bought a 200w led full spectrum light that i use outdoor under a transparent roof when the weather is bad / raining but i am not sure they actually like it.
 
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Yeah, removing the lower branches will get your top buds to grow larger. Yellowing leaves just attract more bugs. More light will help, but what are the temps on those days?
 
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vernoook

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warble said:
Yeah, removing the lower branches will get your top buds to grow larger. Yellowing leaves just attract more bugs. More light will help, but what are the temps on those days?
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Temps are low unfortunately, it varies but around 60-68F in the day. At night it can go down to 50-55F . At 50F, i keep them inside for the night

I checked some data about temperature, and apparently that is no good, temps below 60 drasticly reduce yield.

I wanted to grow some auto as i am not here in summer and wanted harvest before july. That is very likely going to fail, to low temperature, no sun, slow grow. Not a big deal, I will give them to a friend of mine who will take care of it. overall not a big success.

I still want to try to get something out of it, even if not much.
 
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vernoook

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So, i removed the bottom branches ( unfortunately damaged the main stem ( if that is the correct English word for it ) ) .
I removed yellowing and dammaged leaves, watered with nutrient as this plant has a much lighter color than the others.
I do not feed other plants as i use solid fertilizer ( biotabs ) that should have enough nutrient for the whole lifecycle, but this plant has such a small pot that it probably cant provide enough of them to the plant.
Let's see how it goes.

The nutrient i use is bio organic 5-1-5 5ml/l + 1g bactrex/l (some beneficial bacteria i guess)
I grinded this time ( a first ) a bit of the biotab solid fertilizer on top of the soil before watering, as an experiment to see if it helps the feed
Thanks for input, any are welcome
 
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VaSmile

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Normaly pollen sacs show at the bottom of a flower in hermies. I see poorly developed leafs coming out your buds, up your N with some earthworm casting, bat guano, or veggie ferts. I second the monthish estamate for the other plant. Wait for all those pestils that are still whitish to color up and curl/receed back into the flower
 
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