Is this normal with Rick Simpson oil?? Please help!

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] I have been helping someone with stomach, lung, liver and other cancers throughout the body including tumors in the intestine which gives him so much pain he cannot eat, he has started taking the oil about 3 weeks ago, he was taking .1 grams three times a day and was sleeping for 20 hours and was very stoned from it, after about 2.5 weeks he said he was feeling the effects less but was still sleeping allot, they decided to up the dose because the cancer is at such a late stage to 1 gram a day from .3 grams a day. they had him on 1 gram a day for 4 days and it really really knocked him out! sleeping around 24 hrs a day can't control parts of the body (urinating during sleep) the family was very worried for him, they took him off 1 gram to let him come back so they can communicate with him and make sure he is not dying. its not been 18 hours since he took his last gram and he is still very stoned! how many day could it take him to come back? Also after a couple days of being off until he is back, the plan is to go back to .1 per day and keep letting him slowly build up the tolerance.
Can anyone help with personal advice who has gone through the treatment? is it normal to sleep so much and so heavy? the man taking the treatment has lost ALLOT of weight before he started taking the oil his body is very weak as well from not being able to eat so much from the pain and has recently had a drip attached that goes all the time. I'm wondering if that is effecting his tolerance, and I am wondering how long it could take to build up the tolerance? Any suggestions advice or anything?
Also, We had thought about trying to keep him awake more during the day while he goes back to .3 per day. Is this a good idea or what should they do? Here is another predicament, the doctors are saying he will not last until christmas, I and the man taking this and a couple other strongly believe this will give him much much much longer than that for sure, but the children and other family members are worried if the oil does not work for him and he passes away he will have just slept throughout the last days of his life, so they are worried about giving him more so he just sleeps all the time or to lower and be able to spend time with him or to give him allot and hope for the best! its a tough call on the family I totally understand. I just would like to get some other thoughts in on this please!


Thank you all very very very much and sorry about the messy writing![/FONT]

Yes its normal...for some and under the circumstances....."toxicity" symptoms like these are normal
I can't tell you how long tolerance will take to build, typically 1-2 weeks for full tolerance
Stick with it(at a slightly lower dosage)..and make it yourself if you aren't, learn how to properly purge and read an msds on the solvents your using

Try and get a higher thc/thcv strain.. don't degrade the product when making it..I don't ever heat mine...cbn is not cbd! Amber trichs are not more medicinal...but they are sedative....not cbd! Many get caught up in that...and thc has cancer killing/reducing properties..don't get caught up in the cbd craze.

Thank you! yeah it is home made with really potent GDP, it was made using grain alcohol, in two and a half weeks the has been a very very slight change in tolerance. I know its different for everyone, I want to reassure the family that for some people it takes allot longer. Thank you very much for your reply! rely appreciate every bit of advice I can get!

I really appreciate ever bit*

Well I think its better to have too much than not enough in this circumstance. My mom died recently and when her health was declining my sister and I took it upon ourselves to start sneaking hash/oil etc into whatever we could get her to eat. My mom had never used a street drug in her life and my sister hadn't smoked weed in over 20 years. She was open to try anything at that point though to try and get our mom eating more.

I feel in our situation we started too slowly, afraid that she'd get too high so we weren't getting the appetite improvement. Another problem was not having consistent product to work with to try and really know how much we were giving her. In the beginning it was all made by myself, with my weed using bud not shake/trim for consistency. The problem was that after like 2 chocolate chip cookies (her favorite) she didn't like them anymore and that batch was wasted since she wouldnt eat them. I went through rice crispy treats, oatmeal cookies, sugar cookies, chocolate chip, brownies and more. All the while super slowly increasing her dosage. I couldn't get her to eat them more than a day or two and literally went through several oz on edibles she wouldnt eat. I don't use edibles, so I just gave them away. I eventually ran out of weed and was far from harvest so I had to resort to buying from a dispensary and it all kind of went downhill from there. None of their shit was the same, it was all super weak and the methodical plan I was using to increase her dose went out the window.

We never did get the benefits we were looking for I think because we were trying too hard to be careful not to get her "high". I guess I should add, she had no idea we were giving her weed. After a week or two using dispensary products we decided to give up. She passed away within the month. We were afraid our mom would know we were slipping her drugs, and also afraid of the people in the nursing home finding out what we were doing. In retrospect, if I could do it all again I would have started with a much higher dose and worked my way backwards, and just dealt with the issues of if/when we got caught.

In the case you are in I think I feel the same way. Start high and back off. Honestly with all the cancer you spoke of in their body, is sleeping most the day in comfort and pain free such a bad thing? I understand wanting them to be awake to spend time with but I'd still work backwards, the higher amounts of THC in his body can only be more beneficial IMO. Good luck though, I know its hard to watch someone suffer when theres a chance you might be able to help them.

Just throwing this out there
I hate edibles...when I use weed medicinally I turn it to hash oil (quality hash as in qwiso, winterized, hexane/saline wash etc)
So once you have a quality product (my avatar is white hash powder prior to pressing and smoking on a bowl)

But take the hash and decarb over a double boil, say shot glass in a pot....you can watch the material decarboxylate as co2 bubbles form and leave..this is the most efficient method of decarbing(unless your patient enough for a natural decarb) as its the only way to know when its done and to make sure you don't go to far...

Once decarbed it will readily cross the blood brain barrier....

I put it in 00 capsules, diluting if you wish with coconut oil...thus allowing you to accurately gauge dosage and simply pop a pill

I had prostate cancer and it took me 6 months to get rid of it so I have some personal experience. The first 90 days I was only taking one tenth gram per day. I then got a biopsy showing most of the cancer was gone but a tumor had continued to grow going from a Gleason 7 to a gleason 9. Based on this I worked up to one half gram on the next 90 days and got another biopsy showing that 99.9% of my cancer was gone. I got my oil from Dama Oil where ever batch is analyized by an independent lab so you know exactly what you are getting. Check Damaoil.com.

I agree with the comment to let him sleep. He doesn't need a bunch of people that want to keep him awake. Obviously this is a critical situation and you don't have much time. The oil works by cutting off the blood supply to the cancer but from what I understand he has cancer all over his body. I just had cancer in one area and it took dose's of one half gram. My guess is that you need to get back to one gram or more per day as soon as possible.


If you have any questions don't hesitate ask me.

His family is being kind of selfish in this situation. I understand where they're coming from, but I think in the end they should respect whatever decision he makes. I can only assume this wouldn't be happening without his consent. I say attack it aggressively, but not so aggressively he cannot eat. He needs to eat whatever he can as well. Even if it's a very small amount. Also remember that given his greatly reduced biomass a little is going to go further for him than it would for someone larger.

I think I'd try to get him to smoke whatever will get his appetite for the time he is awake and then hit him hard with the oil. If he sleeps for 24hrs that's ok, just as long as he eats something significant when he wakes up. You will probably have to take care of him while he sleeps. My guess is he is struggling to take care of himself at this point anyway.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck. I'd personally be trying to hit it with a diverse array of cannabinoids instead of just one or the other because you never know how that slight change in structure might or might not help. All cancers are a little different.

Thank you all for all your time and all the great info! I will keep you updated, as it is now a couple days after taking 1 gram every day for 4 days he has woken way back up and has been talking allot saying he is in india and that he is seeing lots and lots and lots of faces and talking to Jesus, saying random stuff out loud and speaking in mumbles. I will check in again today, but thats the last I heard, it sounds like he is having a psychedelic journey and is still very stoned. I accidentally broke my phone and lost the number to the family and I am currently trying to retrieve it then I can update again when he is back to normal. then he will start out again on a small dose of the oil and work up slower so everyone is happy including him. You guys can't believe how grateful we are for all your replies! Have a great day everyone!

He's almost totally back to not being high now, he is just in allot of pain from not having the oil for a couple days, now he will start again tomorrow on a lower dose than 1 gram which was a too fast amount to jump up. Thanks again everyone!