Long Term Mother Care

Im almost done. I need to study this till I understand what its telling me. It might be the next cruch. Actually this the rest of it. It suddenly wouldnt respond I thought because its cannabis related but had to enter a dumby question and just get my real question in. I got an unexpected answer I want to see if its actually a new opportunity for the project.

My brain fried lol. This why I only try to do this project in small doses.

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Also because Im too busy trying to capture everything but did it all messed up so I kinda need to lay it out somewhere anyway real quick. So I can just read them in order at once and focus. All it takes is a refresh and I lose the convo.
 
Idk if its really telling me much, Back crossing with different original moms was new. I dont get if its just trying to keep producing those f1 hybrids from the two ibls or adding to my goals of just achieving IBL status in general. To also make the IBl last as long as possible which before this read I was seeing it could do 30 years easy.

Id have to keep moms alive tho which is fine but if I lose them, I have IBL seeds to work with while making the next. Or would be able to use it in the next project? Idk. I always take notes of things I dont need later but dont when I need to. The biggest learn of the day is the ability to be lost sooner than 10 yrs but it could have genetic resilience that lasts 30 yrs easy. That is a good thing in this case.

Oh yea lol so Id grow out the IbLs if I lost their moms and just hopefully have the strain for another 30 yrs. A lifetime indeed.
 
I cant go back and ask it more questions, refreshed and lost it. My studies been like this the whole time. So I cant naturally pick up where left off. If you ask it too much it just wont asnwer each core question u threw at it. Sometimes like today it outright refused to answer.
 
So clone of clones can actually be a tool, Im thinking so I dont get too ahead of myself, test 30 generations. Keep a mom but keep clones of clones for a while. 5 runs per year, so 6 yrs of testing. To test resilience to breaking down over time and then start the project. Like it says it involves many genes working together.

By then Ive only used up 6 of 30 yrs to breed with it. I would know it has 30 generations tho and would keep testing that. Each generation would be a year. Eapecially if I run my pheno that is two gens younger, and see better results.. Im running it next run for sure, at least one clone.

Idk just my thoughts real quick. Idk how Id know Im passing that down each generation. The next important triats are that it produces it with basic lighting and even lack of lighting and other various conditions. That it always hits a strict amount minimal flower rosin yield. Then I can consider beginning this project. Of course it can never herm also under stress tests and any point in time.

This could mean a sob story but its why I have to test it thoroughly.
 
And thats not limited to plant count. No matter how many you have, you can only grow it out and clone it, send previous to flower and so on. Cant change the flower duration. I realize as typing this tho.. What if you just grew it out, cloned it, grew that out just enough to clone that.. And then send the 30 generation into flower and test that. No?? Ya?? I think so.

Speed things up by .. Shit. 4 and half years instead. Worth it but youd miss other key insights like when it lost its role exactly and other things like what your product would be theough out time. I got to see that with my pheno. You might as well flower it since you got 8 or 10 weeks of nothing going on anyway.
 
i've never kept a mother long enough but i have kept other plants, i do know if you harvest lettuce enough and let it regrow over and over like a mother plant, the lettuce gets more and more bitter over time, i have no idea if weed is the same. but i do know some plants are like this, not really a genetic drifts but something def happens
 
Well thats a fool moment. So Im not wrong about all this but theres a real hole I found in project. I just didnt think to search how long seeds really last for. Its like 5 yrs then 50% germ rates drop. Then its single digits after 15. Also loss of vigor and could just be shit plants.

Damn AI. This is what I mean when I say it can be a little misleading or idk a better word at the moment. Point is, someone has to keep paying it forward. Its clear theres a hash community, not all of it is being served, and some one has to be that middle man but it wont hold itself up.

New IBL hash breeders would have to come to scene. I would of made it easy for those who struggle but someones got to keep putting the love in. When I leave the scene. It does say to freeze seeds for 20 years but its just being AI again. Its onvious what the problem is. Some yall must think Im a real clown.

Just now realizing something so silly. Its a dilema tho I mean, it could take 300 phenos 3 years small grow to find a mother. You could get bugs and have to smoke the place etc. Hvld. Im hydro so if I didnt check it for two days for whatever reason and pump went out, it could die. I could personally have many reasons I cant care for them and have to start over.

Its a shitty pressure but I guess making your own strain isnt all that much better. I just be seeing people germ beans from 30 yrs ago so I thought 15 yrs easy. Its risky business tho all that hard work. It keeps saying to store them 20 yrs and just replenish mothers or even longer but its not seeing its own contridiction.

Its suddenly telling me sib mating to make more seeds isnt a good idea. Im seeing between the lines that getting to IBL status is hard work if you even make it, only to be a snapshot in time like I say.. You dont want to go any further other than to use these traits into other projects.

Well shit this sucks. This would explain why no one has done it. Youd be doing a lot of people a huge favor tho. I would be working 3 times harder to fullfill an obsession to avoid something making it redundant. It makes losing a mom look like not really a big deal. All because I didnt think hard enough about the seeds not lasting long.

So yea its like someone would be stepping it up for all of us which could very well benefit from that. Youd be pheno hunting 3 times to create it, when really, losing a mom and starting again and keeping that for ten years.. Is looking better. It may not last that long tho as you see I lost mine in two years.

Unless thats another hole in the project, that yields just can get cut in half for other reasons. Id blame gas lantern routene because it really did mess up my plants. They all growing way better now back to normal lighting. Maybe it forced it to prioritize finishing over bud and hash production idk but still likely I lost that pheno.

I knew I was getting ahead of myself I just didnt see where the issue is. I wasnt too far off tho. The “snap shot in time” is just something to keep reminding myself. Whos gonna provide it?..
I have seeds older than that and they germinate 90-95% it’s on how you store them I guess.
 
Yea I mean, like I said, I found out something just after that. My pheno being lost just might prove what it said. Genetic resilience to breaking down from age and cloning. Some go easy while some can last 30 years easy maybe more. So if I keep them alive for 30 yrs then create a final batch of seeds and reselect mothers thats 60 yrs before its officially gone.

Might be redundant to my original goals but its the conistant performance I need. Got to breed the damn thing myself appearently lol. So Id be testing at least 30 generations of a true female moms that yields my target extract yield for 4-6 yrs before even begining my project.
 
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