My beautiful bag seed female to late to transplant?

nuckyt

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blown up.jpgtouch up.jpginternodes 2.jpgclose up main cola.jpginternodes.jpggreen closeup.jpgclose up main cola.jpgshes looking better than I ever could imagine for bagseed. She smells good too so I hope she turnns out good bud! Ive learned a lot from this site so my next grow will be way different. I have this one in miracle grow potting mix next time I'm going to try coco and add my own nutes. I flushed her really good and now I'm feeding FF Tiger bloom. Shes two weeks into flowering she has several flowers and is about 2 1/2 feet tall. I wished I had known it was going to get so big I wouldve put it in a much bigger pot. Right now shes only in a 1 gallon pot. Would it be too late to transplant into a bigger one? I'm excited to see how she will turn out!
 

scroglodyte

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in flower who can say how much more growth, but you will avoid root-binding, which can kill your plant. just be very gentle.
 

LeafGnosis

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Very nice looking for bag seed... I hope mine will look as nice...

the one on the left just showed her pre flower today (4th day into flowering).
the one on the right showed her pre flowers about 3 weeks 5 days (pretty sure she was an auto flower strain that I got from my brother oh about 7 years ago... I am surprised that she was female at first given the difficulties early in veg. The one on the left is a lot bushier and is from a recent 'acquirement'. Both were very good smoke, though my bro's was much better. I have since moved things around and have replaced 6500 k with 2700 k (8 23 watt 6500 k bulbs during veg, and then added the 150 watt HPS (money is tight) ) I am using 62 watt 2700 k side CFL lights. Plan on adding another 150 watt once I purchase some 'real' seeds... though I am very happy that both my bag seeds turned female... Again, I hope mine turn out the same. :clap:
 

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nuckyt

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Very nice looking for bag seed... I hope mine will look as nice...

the one on the left just showed her pre flower today (4th day into flowering).
the one on the right showed her pre flowers about 3 weeks 5 days (pretty sure she was an auto flower strain that I got from my brother oh about 7 years ago... I am surprised that she was female at first given the difficulties early in veg. The one on the left is a lot bushier and is from a recent 'acquirement'. Both were very good smoke, though my bro's was much better. I have since moved things around and have replaced 6500 k with 2700 k (8 23 watt 6500 k bulbs during veg, and then added the 150 watt HPS (money is tight) ) I am using 62 watt 2700 k side CFL lights. Plan on adding another 150 watt once I purchase some 'real' seeds... though I am very happy that both my bag seeds turned female... Again, I hope mine turn out the same. :clap:
Those look great, Ive done my whole grow under cfls I want to try hids on my next grow.
 

nuckyt

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I transplanted her today into a much bigger pot 5 gallons or bigger. I used 80lbs of plain top soil this soil doesnt have perlite or anything else in it so i hope it adapts! Any thoughts? I did water the new soil with Tiger bloom
 

nuckyt

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20 days.jpg20days close.jpgnewpot 20 days.jpgbefore transp.jpg The last two are before and after in her new pot. The first pic is before transplant 20 days into flowering
 

LeafGnosis

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Looks great!!! just in time too. I see the nitrogen deficiency has gotten better!! KUDOS. I have since (since only day five of flowering) super cropped both girls!
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a couple of hours later and there are no dead leaves... I was concerned about the girl on the left cause there were more 'fractures' than the other plant (the last three pics, pics were taken approx. 30 min after super cropping).
I am in 3.1 gallon smart pots (great for flushing) and have maybe grown/vegged my plants too long, but your 5 gallon will let you grow as big as you would like... I believe there is a formula out there somewhere on medium size/plant size. I love how yours is one main stalk... you might clone now... just do a search on cloning flowering plants.. (just takes a bit for them to turn back to veg state, which seems not to stress them enough to turn them hermi's.
I do see the difference from the reflection of the leaves between the cfl's and the HPS... I do see where there is more green spectrum in the cfl's. But the flowering plants love them so I am using them in tangent.
I am waiting to get enough to order fem seeds and start a 'flowering clone' cycle... you do not need as big of veg room as you would keeping a mother plant.
Happy growing!
 

Grojak

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I don't want to tell you what to do, but look up lollypoping and read the benefits to it, you may decide to take off some of that lower branching. Also for your next run if you want to keep it short top it a couple times, you'll get more of a bush.

Most people would say do not transplant during flowering, reason being is transplant shock it is going to take her a few days to recover but a good rule of thumb is 1gallon per month you plan to have her. So 6 weeks of veg and a 60 day flowering plant would require 5gal pot (they do make 4gal) and you'd be happy with the results :)
 

LeafGnosis

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Thanks Grojak, I have actually taken the bottom 3 nodes off the bushier one and one set on the other one but since these were bag seed, I did not get to 'crazy' until I had seen pre flowers. I will definately incorperate that into the next grow as I have much better things going.. ie.. no Miricle Grow MC (6 month crap) so this is a first grow and learning. I know they say one third.. how many nodes up do you usually lollypop? I have since repaired the girls trying to get the 'super' knuckle and also had the stems moved a little for better lower branch lighting.


I have the following now:
1. roots organic
2. fox farm liquid nutrients (3 bottles)
3. will get molasses etc when seeds arrive
4. grow tent at best for money/time etc.

I hope I can follow all of the good advice here and on other forums and get arm size cola's!!!!
Happy growing...
and someone said this: "I find it more addictive to grow cannabis, than smoke it sometimes" (approx. quote)... I see what they mean
 

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nuckyt

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I don't want to tell you what to do, but look up lollypoping and read the benefits to it, you may decide to take off some of that lower branching. Also for your next run if you want to keep it short top it a couple times, you'll get more of a bush.

Most people would say do not transplant during flowering, reason being is transplant shock it is going to take her a few days to recover but a good rule of thumb is 1gallon per month you plan to have her. So 6 weeks of veg and a 60 day flowering plant would require 5gal pot (they do make 4gal) and you'd be happy with the results :)
Thanks Ill look into it
 

nuckyt

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Thanks Grojak, I have actually taken the bottom 3 nodes off the bushier one and one set on the other one but since these were bag seed, I did not get to 'crazy' until I had seen pre flowers. I will definately incorperate that into the next grow as I have much better things going.. ie.. no Miricle Grow MC (6 month crap) so this is a first grow and learning. I know they say one third.. how many nodes up do you usually lollypop? I have since repaired the girls trying to get the 'super' knuckle and also had the stems moved a little for better lower branch lighting.


I have the following now:
1. roots organic
2. fox farm liquid nutrients (3 bottles)
3. will get molasses etc when seeds arrive
4. grow tent at best for money/time etc.

I hope I can follow all of the good advice here and on other forums and get arm size cola's!!!!
Happy growing...
and someone said this: "I find it more addictive to grow cannabis, than smoke it sometimes" (approx. quote)... I see what they mean
Lokks like we're on the same mission lol...happy growing!
 

garden11

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Hi, nice looking plants you have there. :) Theres ways to avoid heigth problem, next time have a plant on the side wich you trie out diffrent teqhnices on. I always do a combination of limb stressing and using wire to tie her down. This will help you utulize your ligth better as you can make the plant into a more receptive "bed" of flowering, instead of the classic straigth up growing colas. Adding a bit side ligth is neat too. At the beginning I grow the seedling to it have about 5 nodes, then "break" it at node 3-4, tie that down to the edge of the pot. Repeat when each new branch reaches 4-5 nodes. I always have 1 or two fresh nodes beneath the node i "break", so that the new branches can be made into fresh breakable branches. How you tie it down and if you start breaking branches already grown 5-10 nodes after breaking them initially, is up to you. This will mostly just widen your plant more. The longest i've done this during vegetive state is 4'n'ahalf months, and almost run out of space on a single plant. It was 2x2 metre wide, and 1.5 metre high when i harvested it. Basically you can shape the plant to your ligthing and growstyle. Its a very resillent plant :) When it come to breaking it, its a matter of doing it a couple of times to learn how and what. I've seen people break it to much and gaffa taping it after wards, and it would still continue to grow. although break it to much and the branch dies. Break it too little, and the thing will stretch back within a couple of days.
 

nuckyt

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Hi, nice looking plants you have there. :) Theres ways to avoid heigth problem, next time have a plant on the side wich you trie out diffrent teqhnices on. I always do a combination of limb stressing and using wire to tie her down. This will help you utulize your ligth better as you can make the plant into a more receptive "bed" of flowering, instead of the classic straigth up growing colas. Adding a bit side ligth is neat too. At the beginning I grow the seedling to it have about 5 nodes, then "break" it at node 3-4, tie that down to the edge of the pot. Repeat when each new branch reaches 4-5 nodes. I always have 1 or two fresh nodes beneath the node i "break", so that the new branches can be made into fresh breakable branches. How you tie it down and if you start breaking branches already grown 5-10 nodes after breaking them initially, is up to you. This will mostly just widen your plant more. The longest i've done this during vegetive state is 4'n'ahalf months, and almost run out of space on a single plant. It was 2x2 metre wide, and 1.5 metre high when i harvested it. Basically you can shape the plant to your ligthing and growstyle. Its a very resillent plant :) When it come to breaking it, its a matter of doing it a couple of times to learn how and what. I've seen people break it to much and gaffa taping it after wards, and it would still continue to grow. although break it to much and the branch dies. Break i t too little, and the thing will stretch back within a couple of days.
Yes I have seen this method I kind of went all natural with this one to see how it would turn out
 
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