My felame plants produced alot off seeds at harvest time...why plz help!

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HI TO ALL, I AM NEW TO THIS WEBSITE AND THIS WAS MY 1ST GROW AND I NEED HELP SO I WOULD BE GRATEFULL IF SOMEONE CAN.

OK I HAD 12 BERRY BOMB FEMENISED SEEDS FROM CANNABISSEEDSUK IN 6" POTS IN A 1.2 BY 1.2 SQUARE METER TENT INDOORS WITH A 6" RVK FAN AND A RHINO CARBON FILTER. I VEGGED THEM FOR JUST OVER SIX WEEKS UNDER A CFL BEFORE I PUT THEM INTO FLOWERING USING TERRA VEGA ONLY (IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IM MISSING HERE IN VEGGING?).

IN FLOWERING I RE-POTTED INTO 11" POTS (DUE TO SIZE OF TENT) USING TERRA FLORA ALL THE WAY THRU UNTIL END OF WEEK 6 (FLUSH TIME). IN THE 3RD WEEK I ADDED CANNA BOOST ALL THE WAY UNTIL END OF WEEK 6 (FLUSH TIME) AND PK13/14 IN WEEK 5 & 6 THEN FLUSHED ALL OF THEM WITH WATER IN WEEK 7 & 8. I ONLY YEILDED OVER ABOUT 36 TO 40g PER PLANT (IS THIS RIGHT) MOST OF THE BOTTOM BEING AIRY AND SEEDS (WHY IS SHE PRODUCING SEEDS WHEN ALL THE PLANTS ARE FEMALE).

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calicat

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You either missed some hermaphrodites, or might have a light leak, or you caused to much stress.
 
Bigby

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Feminised seeds can be prone to hermaphroditism (ie, having some male flowers in amongst the female). The above post is on point. As for the yields, they sound about right. If you want to minimise the amount of airy bud then look into lst. Pretty sure I've done away with popcorn having employed the technique on my latest grow.
 
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calicat said:
you either missed some hermaphrodites, or might have a light leak, or you caused to much stress.
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thanks but im sure there wasnt a light leak. I can only think of one thing that could have caused it and it is stress. When i harvest i only chopped the top coiler then gave water and put the rest of the plant back into the tent for another 5 days is it possible??? In 5 days to turn hermie?? So can this be the case?? As i dont think the top coilers didnt produce any seeds. Have to open the jar and check a few nogs. Also can i use them seeds for a next one because the do cost a bomb lol
 
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bigby said:
feminised seeds can be prone to hermaphroditism (ie, having some male flowers in amongst the female). The above post is on point. As for the yields, they sound about right. If you want to minimise the amount of airy bud then look into lst. Pretty sure i've done away with popcorn having employed the technique on my latest grow.
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thanks is that a lst light where do i put it??? Do i use it with my hps??
 
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Bigby said:
Feminised seeds can be prone to hermaphroditism (ie, having some male flowers in amongst the female). The above post is on point. As for the yields, they sound about right. If you want to minimise the amount of airy bud then look into lst. Pretty sure I've done away with popcorn having employed the technique on my latest grow.
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Dont spread myths. Feminised seeds have just as much chance of going hermie as regular seeds.

It takes around 5 weeks for a seed to mature. If they are small greenish seeds, then it was pollenated late in flower. If they are full, mature seeds, then it was pollenated early in flower.

Some strains can be really touchy depending on genetics. They can hermie for no apparent reason or small things like, too much nutrients or too little nutrients. Temps can play into it. If there is fluctuation, or if it gets too cold or too hot. There are many variables that can cause a hermie, and really only the grower can know what they may have done or not have done to contribute to a plant going herm.

If I read that right, it appears you transplanted while the plants were in flower. If that is the case, transplanting a flowering plant is very stressful.
 
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althor said:
dont spread myths. Feminised seeds have just as much chance of going hermie as regular seeds.

It takes around 5 weeks for a seed to mature. If they are small greenish seeds, then it was pollenated late in flower. If they are full, mature seeds, then it was pollenated early in flower.

Some strains can be really touchy depending on genetics. They can hermie for no apparent reason or small things like, too much nutrients or too little nutrients. Temps can play into it. If there is fluctuation, or if it gets too cold or too hot. There are many variables that can cause a hermie, and really only the grower can know what they may have done or not have done to contribute to a plant going herm.

If i read that right, it appears you transplanted while the plants were in flower. If that is the case, transplanting a flowering plant is very stressful.
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thanks man very usefull info. I had a mixture of light, dark & tiger strip seeds & alot of them all at the end of harvest which is when i realised. I really think it was me chopping the coiler then re watering & putting it back into that tent (didnt check if there were any seeds when i chopped the coiler). But really can it produce excessive amount of seeds in 5 days???. But on the other hand it could be the temp because in them last 2 weeks of flush it was hitting 30 degress on my thermometer which i got from homebase... The neuts wer ok as there was no signs of neut burn, im going by that because i dont have a ph tester.

What can i do to produce more bud sites less airy buds and no seeds?????
 
Bigby

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althor said:
Dont spread myths. Feminised seeds have just as much chance of going hermie as regular seeds.
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I don't believe it to be a myth. Most of the reports I see of people experiencing problems with hermies are with fem seeds. This is an empirical observation, maybe based on a poor sample group - but that is science, not myth fella.

Edit - if I had said only females seeds cause hermies then maybe you might have had a point. But I didn't.
 
graff1t1

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I had an 818 headband feminized seed that hermied on me. I think she stressed out when I said she wasn't special... no really about third wk of flower. everything else in the room was great
 
Trousers

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Bigby said:
I don't believe it to be a myth. Most of the reports I see of people experiencing problems with hermies are with fem seeds.
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This is 2013. Quit spreading bullshit.
It is a myth and you are the victim of shitty growers whining about seeds/genetics instead of figuring out how they fucked up their plants.
Feminized seeds can not produce real hermaphrodites as they lack a Y chromosome.

Feminized seeds can produce male flowers, but that does not make them hermaphrodites.
If you stress any female cannabis plant, it can produce male flowers. That is a normal and a natural survival mechanism.

If the parents of any seeds were likely to show male flowers, then the offspring will do the same.


Bigby said:
This is an empirical observation,
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No it isn't. If it were it would be verifiable. Some douches bitching on the interweb about "hermies" is not an empirical observation.
I saw an eagle carry away a baby on youtube. That is not an empirical observation.

Bigby said:
maybe based on a poor sample group - but that is science, not myth fella.

Edit - if I had said only females seeds cause hermies then maybe you might have had a point. But I didn't.
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It is indeed a myth that you continue to spread as fact. Stop it.
 
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Heck, here are two of the most well known breeders in the world...

Try googling

DJ Short hermie
Mr. Nice hermie


Here is another good one to try since he hates feminized seeds and says they are for "pussys".

TGA hermie.

If you want to get to the origins of it, try googling..

Sativa hermie
Landrace hermie
bagseed hermie

Very few things more hermie prone than landrace.


Now, please stop spreading myths.
 
Bigby

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Trousers said:
This is 2013. Quit spreading bullshit.
It is a myth and you are the victim of shitty growers whining about seeds/genetics instead of figuring out how they fucked up their plants.
Feminized seeds can not produce real hermaphrodites as they lack a Y chromosome.

Feminized seeds can produce male flowers, but that does not make them hermaphrodites.
If you stress any female cannabis plant, it can produce male flowers. That is a normal and a natural survival mechanism.

If the parents of any seeds were likely to show male flowers, then the offspring will do the same.




No it isn't. If it were it would be verifiable. Some douches bitching on the interweb about "hermies" is not an empirical observation.
I saw an eagle carry away a baby on youtube. That is not an empirical observation.



It is indeed a myth that you continue to spread as fact. Stop it.
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Have a nice time in your only one and true reality. Patriarchs can do one! Do not ever tell me what to!

The arrogance of claiming my empirical observation is not an empirical observation gives you away. Granted their may be massive flaws to the method, but that doesn't change the fact that I conducted a meta analysis, and that is empirical observation. You may believe differently, but it is that, a belief. And that sir is a fact.

Let me offer this, as this forum is one I try to be fair and even on (as opposed to the militant cunt I am on most other forums). I can see the logic in your reasoning. Theoretically regular seeds are just as likely to turn hermie as feminised seeds. But who makes the feminised seeds? Let me put it another way. Who makes only regular seeds? I would argue the breeders who are least concerned with making money. This will likely mean they are more strict with their selection processes, and more likely to stabilise and remove traits of hermaphroditism. Compared to companies like Greenhouse, DNA, Cali Connection etc etc etc who jump on any popular strain and rush out as many fems as they can - the selection, the quality control is likely to be nowhere near as strict. There are bound to be more hermies. When you then factor in that more people grow fem strains, certainly those posting on forums. And that most people are fully into capitalist consumerism and the biggest companies are likely to get the most business. Then there is a clear argument for why fems will produce more hermies in tangible reality rather than some theoretical dreamland.


Of course, I'm generalising in developing that hypothesis. But generalising is something you seem to be a fan of. :peace:
 
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That is a real blanket statement, that breeders who use regular are more concerned...
Pretty much any breeder/strain you google and add herm to it, you will find reports of hermie.

I would also like to point out the massive number of breeders who basically take a male, put it in a room of clone only females, pollenate them up, collect the F1 seeds and slap a name on it and call it a strain (regular seeds). That practice is becoming very common.
 
Trousers

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Bigby said:
Have a nice time in your only one and true reality. Patriarchs can do one! Do not ever tell me what to!

The arrogance of claiming my empirical observation is not an empirical observation gives you away. Granted their may be massive flaws to the method, but that doesn't change the fact that I conducted a meta analysis, and that is empirical observation. You may believe differently, but it is that, a belief. And that sir is a fact.

Let me offer this, as this forum is one I try to be fair and even on (as opposed to the militant cunt I am on most other forums). I can see the logic in your reasoning. Theoretically regular seeds are just as likely to turn hermie as feminised seeds. But who makes the feminised seeds? Let me put it another way. Who makes only regular seeds? I would argue the breeders who are least concerned with making money. This will likely mean they are more strict with their selection processes, and more likely to stabilise and remove traits of hermaphroditism. Compared to companies like Greenhouse, DNA, Cali Connection etc etc etc who jump on any popular strain and rush out as many fems as they can - the selection, the quality control is likely to be nowhere near as strict. There are bound to be more hermies. When you then factor in that more people grow fem strains, certainly those posting on forums. And that most people are fully into capitalist consumerism and the biggest companies are likely to get the most business. Then there is a clear argument for why fems will produce more hermies in tangible reality rather than some theoretical dreamland.


Of course, I'm generalising in developing that hypothesis. But generalising is something you seem to be a fan of. :peace:
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If you want to argue about "hermies" you should at least understand what that means.

Again, a real hermaphrodite must have both an X and a Y chromosome.
A feminized seed will only produce a female plant as it does not have a Y chromosome.
A feminized seed can not produce a real hermaphrodite.

Any female cannabis plant, whether it came from a feminized seed or not, has the ability to produce male flowers.
It is a normal and natural survival mechanism.
The "hermies" you are talking about are not dependent on being the product of a feminized seed or regular seed.
 
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Ok so can i do anything with the seeds & will they all be female? cuz they were all female plants just somewhere down the line i messed up so dont want to make the mistake this time around or shall i stick to topping and trim the bottom leaves off??

cuz they are in a 1.2 meter tent in 11" pots my new babies 11 would it yield more??
 
bwest

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Bigby said:
Feminised seeds can be prone to hermaphroditism (ie, having some male flowers in amongst the female). The above post is on point. As for the yields, they sound about right. If you want to minimise the amount of airy bud then look into lst. Pretty sure I've done away with popcorn having employed the technique on my latest grow.
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8 yrs of growing, hundreds of feminized seeds, and I have never had a hermie. I stressed the shit out of some plants as I was learnin. I've had light leaks, timer failure, dried out too much, knocked pots off of shelves and had the dirt and plant come out of pot, broken stems, heat stress, etc. Never one. So, it would take a lot of evidence to convince me fem seeds are hermie prone. More than likely, you had pollen from a previous grow hiding somewhere and your fan kicked it up under plant and that is why only lower branches had seeds.
 
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