My greenhouse experiment

Silentbobs son · May 28, 2009

With nothing to do this summer, I decided to grow my babies in their own private greenhouse and finish them with some indoor techniques. I bought Cali Orange and Arctic Sun for this experiment. The Cali should fair well in the outdoor climate and I heard that Arctic could, as well.
The greenhouse has six foot tall wood sides that are painted white. This should keep any neighbors from seeing them. I am placing a charcoal filter over the vent to try to elinmate some of the smell.
These are pictures of my two girls; the cali on the left and arctic on the right. It is about one and a half weeks after germination in my window sill. After they have alternating nodes I will take my clones and introduce covers to start early flowering.

Silentbobs son · Jun 1, 2009

Well, my babies have turned 2 weeks old. I added some MG tomato nute to the soil two day ago. I have seen a slight increase in growth, but this is outdoors. I wish they would grow faster but all in due time.
I have been added fish emulution every four days. I am not sure if this is right and I know it not burn the girls. What does worry me about this is the salt intake. If anyone has suggestions on a better way to use fish emulsion please let me know. Organic products are new too me and I want to optimize them as much as possible.
Here are the two gals. The Cali is first and the Arctic is second. I did put a small tear in one of the leaves of the Arctic, but at least it wasn't a fan.

Morduskull · Jun 1, 2009

Looking good dude keep us posted sorry never used fish emulution

Silentbobs son · Jun 2, 2009

Well, heat is beginning to become a problem. So I made a few improvements this morning. I opened the vent area more, added a carbon filter to kill some of the smell coming out later, and installed a fan. My wife saw my setup and asked what everything was. I said just veggies and flowers...she doesn't know what mj looks like or smells like. Luckily, she doesn't go outside and disturbs my sanctuary. So here is some pics of the new equipment.

Silentbobs son · Jun 3, 2009

Disaster stuck yeaterday. While working on my upgrades, I put my babies outside. We started having heavy winds but I was not thinking. Little Anne, the Arctic, was blown flat and I did not notice for two hours. After putting them back inside the gh, her condition worsened. The tips of her leaves began to turn brown and I thought her stem may have broken. I quickliy started putting together my nursery and recovery area. I left her under a 42w cfl alnight hoping she would not die. To my surprise this morning, the entire basement smelt like weed. SHE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE FAN LEAVES, YET!!!!! I was so happy. I can't believe how much she improved. I just moved her back out this morning and now she is also the same size as her sister, Cali. I will not be leaving them exposed anymore.

I tested the soil and water yesterday after all or this happened. Both were too alkaline so I dosed both girls with a heavy fish emulsion mixture. They seem to enjoy the lower ph now. I could kick myself for not doing this sooner.

The pictures are the start of my nursery. We never use our sauna and it has a small window to the outside. What a perfect place. The cedar keep the room dry and mold/mildew free and tile floors make it easy to clean up spills. I am going to line the wall with a dull white poster boards and add an adjustable rack to make dealing with the lights easier. I will post more pictures after I finish.

Silentbobs son · Jun 3, 2009

Well Annie is still not doing good. After taking her outside again she started more leave curl. I dug her out to make sure it was a stem break and not nute burn. And, there it was. About a 1/4 inch below the surface, the stem had been bent in half. I took some rocks and put them all around her. Better for them to support her weight right now than her. I, also, flushed the soil a bit. It stinks like rotted fish bad. Hopefully, I will have good news on her tomorrow.

Silentbobs son · Jun 4, 2009

Today both Cali and Anne are back indoors under lights. Anne is slowly getting better in her new soil, I think. Cali got nute burn. I feel so stupid for doing it. But she got a good flush. I am making mistakes I have never done when I was in the deep south. This far northern climate is throwing me off. It is still hitting the 30's in June, JUNE!!! What the hell, Canadians need alot of weed just to live in this shit. Maybe in a few days after the 24/0 cycle I put them on I will have good news to report.

Silentbobs son · Jun 6, 2009

The soil is still not right. I made some myself to cure the mounting problems. Seems all the soil I put them in has extremely poor drainage properties. I will not buy premixed potting soil again. The new soil mix is one part blood/bone meal mix, 3 parts perlite, and 6 parts soil. This new soil can drain and retain moisture days. These new conditions are a vast change from the hot and humid weather in the south. There you must water, water, and water because of the spring through fall drought conditions. My neighbor agreed with me, everything I did know is now useless. If these girls die, I have a grapefruit strain called Citrus Mistress to replace them. God I hope they make it. First nute burn and now suffication from the soaked soil. Give me a hot and humid climate anyday.

Silentbobs son · Jun 11, 2009

I had to take drastic measures 2 days ago. With root rot setting in and total death happpening anyday, I cut them. The seedlings were already stunted and dying so what the hell. I got some rooting gel and dipped them, put them in perlite, then cut the lights on to wait. Cali now has healthy hairs coming out of what is left of the stem, most had died. I am still waiting on Anne. If they pull though, I will have pictures of their progress in a few days. Also, the Citrus Mistress seeds have germinated. They will go in the soil, soon. I won't make the same mistake with them. I have learned much about growing in a northern environment the past 2 weeks. I still miss the southern heat, though.

Silentbobs son · Jun 19, 2009

Anne and Cali have died. The rooting mix worked good at first and then they were gone. Here's some pics of before they passed.

Silentbobs son · Jun 19, 2009

Well, time to move on. These little guys have started to take off. This is them on the 14th, two days after putting them in some of the soil I mixed myself. These are going to stay indoors for awhile.
I am keeping the temp between 70 - 72 and the humidity is 67 -68. They seem very comfy and only get water from my spray bottle. Even though I mixed the soil to drain well and aerated, I am not going to have the problems I just experienced again.

Silentbobs son · Jun 19, 2009

Here is my girls today. They are five days old and going strong. They have gotten 24/7 light but I will change that after the two small leaves on bottom fall off; I don't remember what they are called. They have a constant temp in their room and constant humidity level but I may drop it lower, as well in a few weeks. I am still learning things about the Grapefruit strains but I hear they could be flowered right away. I'm still going to research more before I hit a 12/12 cycle. If anyone has any hints on growing Grapefruit breeds, let me know. Any help is appreciated.

Silentbobs son · Jun 19, 2009

They are, also, under 3 42w cfls with 19500 lumens. I will increase this once per 2 weeks at the end of next week, maybe. It depends on how fast they take off. But, if I can flower early I will switch to the GE cool white lights in a few weeks, instead.

Silentbobs son · Jun 23, 2009

I have three deformed plants that I am trying to fix. To take a look go to https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/206011-never-seen-before.html
If anyone has any advice feel free to give it. I have increased the water intake to them and they seem to be responding. I will know for sure in a few days.

Silentbobs son · Jun 26, 2009

It seems that the deformed plants are cured of whatever was bothering them. They are really starting to take off. I started giving them a little more water than the rest and BLAM! One even looks like he is flowering because of the all the new growth. Here's some pics of their improved state. (Check my other post for the pre improvement pics)

Silentbobs son · Jun 26, 2009

Well, they are all growing great. The 18/6 cycle has shown improved growth and they are all developing their first true leaves. Most say that you can flower after 14 - 15 days but I still going to wait till next week after the true leaves have grown out more. I have found that growing indoors in the northern climate is much easier than growing outside. But, my tomatoes outside are now 5 ft tall. I may break the girls into two groups; one for a SOG and the other for the greenhouse. Plus, that will keep me from investing more money for a while. With two separate harvest I can also eliminate the storage problem I'm going to have. If the wife doesn't see it, we don't have a problem. Or, in my case, a broken neck. :lol:

Here is some pictures of their progress, enjoy.

Silentbobs son · Jun 29, 2009

Today I added another 42w Veg light. It was, also, transplant day. I was not impressed with the peat cups today. It seems that roots stick to and grow though the cheap ass things. I did some damage to all but one of the root systems. But, they should be ok if I leave them be. I had some mold last week on the wet cups but after I dried them out, it all disappeared. Now I wait for about two weeks for the roots to heal and then I may put them to flower. It seems after every thread I post about ends up pushing the early flowering back. Still calculating on what to flower them with and which ones are going to the greenhouse. If CFL's give a gram per watt then I should add one more dual tube setup. If I keep 5 inside, I want at least 200 grams from them. But, the outside ones should make up for any shortcomings. Here is how they look today after the transplant, I expect them to start drooping today and for the next week until the roots repair themselves. The last three pics are the deformed one I have been dealing with, only one is still giving problems. Peace

Silentbobs son · Jun 30, 2009

My girls just went to bed but I managed to give them a treat before the timer shut off. I mixed some water and molasses with just a touch of fish emulsion. I added 1/2 tbsp molasses to 500 mil of water with 1/4 tsp of emulsion. I don't think that you can add to much of the sweet stuff but I am going to wait a couple of waterings before I add it again.

Silentbobs son · Jul 2, 2009

Wow, molasses is the way to grow. Only one and a half days after their feeding, they are doing amazing. The organic switch that I went to guarantees that it is the only way to go. The increased growth size is amazing. I always take pics about ten minutes before they are posted and my girls took my breath away. The soil is still moist so I don't think I need to water for several days but with the increase in growth speed, I don't know. Do know now that some must be moved to the greenhouse but lucky it is finished and ready to accommodate. I can't wait to see how they look next week. I think that five will overrun my, what I thought was large, grow room. They already have blood and bone meal in the soil, so no need to use ferts ever again. If you have not tried organic gardening, I recommend it. I don't think you would go back.
The last three are the deformed girls.

Silentbobs son · Jul 2, 2009

The girls are always pictured in the same order with the same number, if anyone was wondering.

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