RickWhite
Well-Known Member
This is the second time the Justice Dep. has issued statements that it no longer plans on busting patients and caregivers who are "clearly acting according to State law." They also have stated that they will be encouraged to go after those they feel are violating the law.
Am I the only one who is a bit disturbed by the language being used here? It sounds to me like it might almost wind up being up to the patient or caregiver to prove their innocence. They even talked about going after people who "lied to get their card." Now how can they determine that? Will they be forcing patients and their doctors to prove their illness?
Also, when are the cops ever convinced that people are "clearly" acting according to the law? In my experience, most cops and prosecutors feel it is their job to try to prove guilt and yours to prove your innocence.
This is a particular problem because in most States a MMJ card is an affirmative defense which means the burden of proof is on you and not the State.
It just sounds to me like the new guidelines are quite possibly a bunch of hot air. Until they pass legislation stating that the police must have some form of actionable knowledge of your wrong doings nobody is really safe. If all they need is probable cause, all they need to do is show that we are growing or in possession. It will then be up to us to prove that we are acting within state law. So, in the real world of the justice system, they can hall us to jail and take us to trial which is a seriously fucked situation.
Until they come out and say that no card holder will be arrested or harassed unless there is actual specific, actionable knowledge it is all just hot air. It is as if Holder is saying, if you can prove you aren't doing anything wrong we won't charge you.
Am I the only one who is a bit disturbed by the language being used here? It sounds to me like it might almost wind up being up to the patient or caregiver to prove their innocence. They even talked about going after people who "lied to get their card." Now how can they determine that? Will they be forcing patients and their doctors to prove their illness?
Also, when are the cops ever convinced that people are "clearly" acting according to the law? In my experience, most cops and prosecutors feel it is their job to try to prove guilt and yours to prove your innocence.
This is a particular problem because in most States a MMJ card is an affirmative defense which means the burden of proof is on you and not the State.
It just sounds to me like the new guidelines are quite possibly a bunch of hot air. Until they pass legislation stating that the police must have some form of actionable knowledge of your wrong doings nobody is really safe. If all they need is probable cause, all they need to do is show that we are growing or in possession. It will then be up to us to prove that we are acting within state law. So, in the real world of the justice system, they can hall us to jail and take us to trial which is a seriously fucked situation.
Until they come out and say that no card holder will be arrested or harassed unless there is actual specific, actionable knowledge it is all just hot air. It is as if Holder is saying, if you can prove you aren't doing anything wrong we won't charge you.