Organic soil with Flora Grow indoors

minispeeder · Apr 28, 2016

Can someone help with correct ph for organic soil to use, and or the optimized temps to use, I have read many different opinions but something I'm not doing right is making leaves a bit brownish on the tips. I uploaded some pics. I was using RO with added cal and mag added back in with 5.8 ph, but someone mentioned using 6.5 for soil. I have the temp around 75-85 during the day, lowest 70 at night and humidity in the 40-60 range.
First grow, so bare with me. So far this Blueberry B-F5 strain has been growing slow. I have 2 6500k 60wattCFL, 1 2500k 60wattCFL, 1 5000k SPot 60wattCFL within a foot.
Let me know your ideas and or thoughts or questions you may have to help it grow into veg.

MeJuana · Apr 28, 2016

It is important that you let the plants dry out because I am seeing two problems. Yes you set the pH of your water for organic soil unless you are always using straight water with a stable pH that never changes. I set my pH to 6.7 always even when I just use water or compost tea so that when I want to add Cal Mag Plus, (or Bloom nutrients sometimes later), I am not swinging my pH everywhere. So you see setting pH in organic soil isn't as much for solubility as it is for stability. They will be fine let them dry out and decide what you will be doing, straight water always at the same pH or set the pH to a stable value leaving it there until harvest.

minispeeder · Apr 28, 2016

So today is day 10 since since it has popped up out of soil. I have been using 6.5 and following flora grow 3 part series with the instructions on the back, 1/4 tsp for seedlings in a gallon of water than ph it to 6.5. How long do I wait for feed her again? Like every 2-3days, and how often regular Ph RO water? Sorry for asking so many questions, but I want her to live. I have had one seed die already from me over-watering i think.

minispeeder · Apr 29, 2016

Switching to full LED, these are the 3 i been looking at. If anyone has any better suggestions let me know. Also looking at 2x2 grow tents, any recommendations as I have read various opinions on both LED grow lights, and grow tents. Thanks guys

Punson 450W 12 Band Full Spectrum LED Grow Light
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D2S40ZM...TF8&colid=2EDGYK82035YA&coliid=I1JUW9ZP0VFDPD
MarsHydro MARSII 400 Led Grow Light Full Spectrum
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMQOO9W...TF8&colid=2EDGYK82035YA&coliid=I32QJX1JA09GD2
Sunnine 600W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 120*5W CREE Leds
http://www.amazon.com/Sunnine-Spect...010AHES00/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

minispeeder · Apr 29, 2016

Day 11 Seedling using a Mickey Moused Cardboard box which eventually move to a grow tent when I find a good one, and LED lighting. Below is also the soil I'm using.

MeJuana · Apr 29, 2016

I should have been very clear in my reply. You don't give new seedlings nutrients for the first 3 weeks and you are already giving them nutrients, that is bad. But I was hinting that with organic soil you probably don't need any nutrients through out veg and well into flower, except for Cal Mag for me I always have to add that shit. What should you do? Continue to set your water to the same pH but don't give more nutrients for another week. Unless they start to look hungry, sometimes if you feed a seedling early it leaches some of it's stored nutes out of the seedling. I know there is a ton of info out there and it takes time for us to reply to questions. Trust me we all made these little mistakes at first, shit I put seedlings in Miracle Grow and they were falling over, stunted, seriously f'd up. I flushed them out, got great advice, harvested a decent harvest still. Some times to learn we need it this way I guess lol

minispeeder · Apr 29, 2016

thanks appreciate the advice.

Growbrough · May 1, 2016

Those nutrients are far from organic, plus Hawthorne Group, a Subsidiary of Monsanto bought GH not too long ago. so if your trying to grow organic, your soil is no longer "organic". Not a horrible thing but proper classification is everything.

Yodaweed · May 1, 2016

Yeah @Growbrough hit the nail on the head, those nutrients are far from organic, they are salt based hydroponic nutrients, they kill the living bacteria that make organic so dank. Good luck.

minispeeder · May 2, 2016

Day 14, I refrained from the nuts, had no idea about Monsanto buying them, will not use their products anymore, can you recommend organic nuts? Now just using straight RO water Ph 6.5. Think i had Miss Blueberry to close to the CFL's, dropped her down a bit.
I have 3 babies in the house, just popped their heads up and are growing much faster than my first one, strange but good. Is she looking ok?

And anyone know about this pesky little bugs in the soil and flying around plant. In the one picture their is one on the stem, which I extinguished lol

Also picked out a small grow tent finally, after 2 mths of looking
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrobuilder-...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

Olive Drab Green · May 2, 2016

I think it's your choice of water and overwatering, washing your K away.

minispeeder · May 2, 2016

Recommendations on water? How to fix it? Leaves looking not as green as they should be.

This is my RO system below, it adds Calcium and Magnesium back into filter water.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0F0JYERVXPNW8GX0PHMJ

Pic of my grow box, babies growing

Olive Drab Green · May 2, 2016

minispeeder said:
Recommendations on water? How to fix it? Leaves looking not as green as they should be.

This is my RO system below, it adds Calcium and Magnesium back into filter water.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0F0JYERVXPNW8GX0PHMJ

Just use tap. You'll be alright.

minispeeder · May 2, 2016

Ph the tap, or just use whatever the ph is?

Olive Drab Green · May 2, 2016

minispeeder said:
Ph the tap, or just use whatever the ph is?

It'll probably be fine, whatever the content is. pH it anyway just for knowledge's sake. Try 50/50 RO-Tap.

minispeeder · May 2, 2016

Ok thanks for the input.

minispeeder · May 2, 2016

Just checked our tap, 770 ppm, Ph 8.33 does that sound ok to mix half and half, RO is 80 ppm, Ph 7.45
Put together i get Ph 7.96, 417 ppm

Olive Drab Green · May 2, 2016

minispeeder said:
Just checked our tap, 770ppm, Ph 8.33 does that sound ok to mix half and half.

The pH is a little high. Do you have lemon juice or vinegar? pH to, like.. 6.2-6.5. What about mixing RO and Tap? What's the pH?

minispeeder · May 2, 2016

I have vinegar, lemons also.

Olive Drab Green · May 2, 2016

minispeeder said:
I have vinegar, lemons also.

Try testing the 50/50 first. Tell me pH.

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