Pastor Scott Lively to be tried for crimes against humanity

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Oh this is just delicious

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"The First Circuit Court of Appeals has denied Pastor Scott Lively’s petition to have a crimes against humanity lawsuit against him dropped.

The anti-gay pastor will stand trial in a federal court in Massachusetts for his part in crafting Uganda’s notorious Anti-Homosexuality Act, popularly known as the “Kill the Gays” bill. The bill was largely the product of a workshop held in Uganda by Lively and two other american anti-gay activists, focused on “how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how ‘the gay movement is an evil institution’ whose goal is ‘to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

In spite of the pending suit and national condemnation for his actions, Lively has not backed down. Earlier this week, during an appearance on “Trunews,” he stated that homosexuality was worse than mass murder, because it was to blame for Noah’s flood."

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/232...bill-to-be-tried-for-crimes-against-humanity/

http://ccrjustice.org/ourcases/current-cases/sexual-minorities-uganda-v.-lively

From Lively's site;

"On a personal note, I want to say how much I have enjoyed campaigning. Indeed, “enjoyed” is far too small a word for it. I have experienced a profound sense of satisfaction and fulfillment on the campaign trail. I can’t remember feeling so completely in tune with the Lord and so confident of being in His perfect will as when I was in the debates and the other public speaking events and media interviews. I have the sense that everything I have ever done in my life — every diverse experience and training – was to prepare me for this ministry field.

And I have felt God’s favor in and through it. As you may know, I am being sued for “Crimes Against Humanity” by a Marxist law firm trying to take away my First Amendment rights and destroy me the way the LGBT bullies try to destroy anyone who gets in their way – from Anita Bryant in the 1970s to Phil Robertson in 2013. It’s the classic Saul Alinsky strategy of malicious slander and character assassination. And in the middle of the campaign the largest homosexual activist organization in the world, the so-called Human Rights Campaign piled on, naming me the Global LGBT Movement’s Public Enemy #1."

http://www.scottlively.net/

Then there's this..;

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lol, chic-fil-A donated to this guy's organization.

and right wingers couldn't line up fast enough to support chic-fil-A after they heard about this.

but bigotrya nd racism is totally dead in america, americans would boycott any company like that!
 
I know many christians. I know quite a ffew who are totally opposed to any sort of marriage for homosexuality.

I don't know any Christians who would be anything but repulsed by someone saying gays deserve go die for being gay.

I've still yet to see proof that Scott Lively actually endorses homosexual murder.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
So an international court has ruled his action in Uganda warrant a trial wherein he's accused of crimes against humanity, and that's still not enough proof for you?
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I put no weight in a leftist court.

The left would be happy sending Darren Wilson to prison in spite of evidence being contrary to their aim.

The left has a way of developing a moral outrage in their issues and the ends justify any means.

I'd have to see what he did there.

If, as I suspect, he simply gave advice to the "evil nature " of homosexuality then that's free speech.

To be guilty, he would have had to convince them to actually execute someone for nothing more than being gay. Possibly if he convinced them to install a death penalty for gays if they wouldn't have done so without him.

I don't think he did any of that.
 
SmokeyDan said:
I put no weight in a leftist court.

The left would be happy sending Darren Wilson to prison in spite of evidence being contrary to their aim.

The left has a way of developing a moral outrage in their issues and the ends justify any means.

I'd have to see what he did there.

If, as I suspect, he simply gave advice to the "evil nature " of homosexuality then that's free speech.

To be guilty, he would have had to convince them to actually execute someone for nothing more than being gay. Possibly if he convinced them to install a death penalty for gays if they wouldn't have done so without him.

I don't think he did any of that.
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What makes you think it's a "leftist court"? Because it alleges crimes committed by a right wing conservative like Lively?

Lively recommends criminalizing homosexuality and his actions have directly led to the deaths of hundreds of people in Uganda and discrimination in Russia, that's not free speech, that's hate speech that incites violence based on sexual orientation, which is illegal.

Fuck this scumbag, I hope they make an example out of him and put him in prison for the rest of his life
 
Padawanbater2 said:
What makes you think it's a "leftist court"? Because it alleges crimes committed by a right wing conservative like Lively?

Lively recommends criminalizing homosexuality and his actions have directly led to the deaths of hundreds of people in Uganda and discrimination in Russia, that's not free speech, that's hate speech that incites violence based on sexual orientation, which is illegal.

Fuck this scumbag, I hope they make an example out of him and put him in prison for the rest of his life
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It's an international court, they're notoriously liberal.

So you think lively is controlling the Russians? Damn, we should enlist him to help us with the areas we're having trouble with them in.

You say he has done things to kill gays in Uganda?

How so? I was not aware they'd killed any gays under their law.

Speech is speech. You lefties think anything you don't like is hate speech. It's not.
 
SmokeyDan said:
It's an international court, they're notoriously liberal.

So you think lively is controlling the Russians? Damn, we should enlist him to help us with the areas we're having trouble with them in.

You say he has done things to kill gays in Uganda?

How so? I was not aware they'd killed any gays under their law.

Speech is speech. You lefties think anything you don't like is hate speech. It's not.
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Inciting violence against homosexuals that directly leads to violence of innocent people based on their sexual orientation is absolutely hate speech, that's what "hate speech" means and that's why it's illegal

His proselytizing in Uganda has directly led to the Uganda Anti-Homosexuality act of 2014 (previously called the "Kill the Gays" bill). If you conclude any amount of ambiguity from that, you're being intellectually dishonest.

"From 5 to 8 March 2009, a workshop took place in Kampala, the capital of Uganda, that featured three American evangelical Christians: Scott Lively, an author who has written several books opposing homosexuality; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-professed former gay man who conducts sessions to heal homosexuality; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, an organisation devoted to promoting "freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ". The theme of the conference, according to The New York Times, was the "gay agenda": "how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how 'the gay movement is an evil institution' whose goal is 'to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity' ". An Anglican priest from Zambia named Kapya Kaoma was in attendance, and reported on the conference. Ugandan Stephen Langa organised it, and was supported by Lively, who asserted in his workshops that homosexuality was akin to child molestation and bestiality, and causes higher rates of divorce and HIV transmission. Lively's emphasis was on the cohesion of the African family, that he said was being threatened by "homosexuals looking to recruit youth into their ranks". According to Kaoma, during the conference, one of the thousands of Ugandans in attendance announced, "[The parliament] feels it is necessary to draft a new law that deals comprehensively with the issue of homosexuality and...takes into account the international gay agenda... Right now there is a proposal that a new law be drafted."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014

Lively's actions led directly to the drafting of this bill. This bill has led directly to the deaths of hundreds of innocent Ugandans.

And in the hopes of quelling some of that ignorance of yours, here's his manifesto to the Russian government basically trying to do the same thing (and partially succeeding as Russia, today, is one of the least friendly places for homosexuals)

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/archives.php?id=5225300

"Third, criminalize the public advocacy of homosexuality."

"Speech is speech" when it's fundamentalist Christians advocating violence against homosexuals and criminalizing sexual orientation, but when any homosexuals stand in opposition to such bullshit, they're trying to "push a gay agenda"...

Lively should be executed and you should be bitch slapped
 
He isn't standing on a street corner trying to get a crowd of people to go lynch some gays.

He is advising government on policy.

It's also two freedoms. Religion and speech.
 
SmokeyDan said:
He isn't standing on a street corner trying to get a crowd of people to go lynch some gays.
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you're right. the person on the street corner is basically powerless.

scott lively is empowering the most powerful entity in the nation to kill gays for being gay. and you defend that.

you'd be opposed to that if you were living there, naturally. because you suck so much cock.

not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
SmokeyDan said:
He isn't standing on a street corner trying to get a crowd of people to go lynch some gays.

He is advising government on policy.

It's also two freedoms. Religion and speech.
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So if somebody advised the government that heterosexuality was wrong and they enacted a bill called "Kill the Straights", and legions of homosexuals started murdering straight people based on their sexual orientation, would you say that's "freedom of speech", too?
 
Yes.

You'd probably say that a white supremacist saying we should kill blacks is hate speech.

It clearly isnt because Louis Farakan has a primary message that we need to kill the white devil and he isnt being prosecuted.
 
UncleBuck said:
lol, chic-fil-A donated to this guy's organization.

and right wingers couldn't line up fast enough to support chic-fil-A after they heard about this.

but bigotrya nd racism is totally dead in america, americans would boycott any company like that!
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Here is another pastor that you guys seem to love. Strange, huh?

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desert dude said:
Here is another pastor that you guys seem to love. Strange, huh?
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Do you expect everyone to jump to support Sharpton because you've labeled him "liberal" because that's what conservatives do if anyone criticizes any conservatives, even if they know they're wrong, just like how you and Smokey support Lively?

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