peroxide, aquashield, great white, advanced nutrients... questions

Im running the advanced nutrients MICRO AND BLOOM.

Im in an NFT sprayer setup similar to stinkbuds.

I have NOT used peroxide yet until yesterday and it was disaster.

I dont know if i used too much, but my plants which are about 4 weeks old just started falling over (the ones from seeds, but the clones were okay, but all have huge root systems for their size, about 2-3 ft long roots)

I panicked and switched the res water really quick.

I HAD great white in there, as well as aquashield.

My plants roots are long, but they are not nice snow white color, they are a yellow creamy vanilla icecream color instead.

I know that the peroxide kills the micro organisms in the great white.

My plan was to use the peroxide just prior to switching out my res.

And then dumping the res and the peroxide water, and then adding fresh water, nutes, and the aquashield and great white again.

I need to figure out how to jugle all this stuff and get my priorities straight.

On the peroxide bottle from the hydro shop, it says add 3ml per 4 liters of water.

I thought i followed this ratio, but apparently, my plants didnt agree.

Anyway, got the fresh res going, and roots are still not nice white, so now what should i do?

I just added a small amount of peroxide to the new res tonight.

10ml peroxide, and the res is at least 5 gal or water.

Can i add great white and aquashield again in a week or so after the peroxide disapates?

Or should i stick with the peroxide for a while, and add it every few days in small doses, until my roots are white?

Thanks guys.

Peroxide wont turn your root white.

Most hydro nutrient manufactures
have a statement on their website
requesting you avoid using H2o2

Why did you use the h2o2 in the first place ?
Were you having problems ?

That guide is bullshit for growing weed.

Do not use 5ml/gl or you will be sad.

That guy is a tomato farmer.

I have killed plants with h2o2
and it will turn your roots brittle and yellow/brown

Avoid using h2o2 if at all possible.

If you keep your rez temp below 70º
then you will have enough D O to prevent disease.

If you live at a high elevation above sea level
then you may be experiencing low D O
and you need to keep your rez even cooler.

I have run my rez as low as 40º
not good
but not harmful
just slows thing down.

I keep my rez thermostatically set to 64º
.

Earl said:

That guide is bullshit for growing weed.

Do not use 5ml/gl or you will be sad.

That guy is a tomato farmer.

I have killed plants with h2o2
and it will turn your roots brittle and yellow/brown

Avoid using h2o2 if at all possible.

If you keep your rez temp below 70º
then you will have enough D O to prevent disease.

If you live at a high elevation above sea level
then you may be experiencing low D O
and you need to keep your rez even cooler.

I have run my rez as low as 40º
not good
but not harmful
just slows thing down.

I keep my rez thermostatically set to 64º
.

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I use H2o2 all the time and never have any probs at that dosage.......but yeah keep your res temps down and you really don't need to use it....

How do you grow jc ?
DWC ? Aero ? NFT ?

Earl said:

How do you grow jc ?
DWC ? Aero ? NFT ?

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Top feed,and ebb and flow right now..I have 1 1000 on a light rail and 1 400,2 veg rooms and 3-5 week perpetual harvest room set up currently

Why do you feel the need to use h2o2 ?
is your rez really warm ?

I only use when I have probs in summer mostly...either way it is only water with an added oxygen atom...so it breaks down pretty fast...I have truly never had a negative experience using it....on the contrary h2o2 has brought back my many of my girls that have gotten sick

okay, so i have no clue what my res temp is, but i have a feeling it is over the 70 mark because the room is 78 because its a veg table (it is nft tho, no one has anything like it, imagine stinkbuds setup, only with 50 sprayers, and a whole table of gutter like principal with pvc pipes every 6 inches keeping water flowing down the incline, in equaly spaced rows.

Now... about chilling the water.

Ive seen water chillers mentioned, but never read up on them.

I will use them in my bloom room then for sure, IF I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO COOL THE RES USING THE PORTABLE AC UNIT I PLAN TO USE IN THE BLOOM ROOM.

I currently have no plants in bloom, nor the bloom room setup yet.

Let me know

i saw a post about clonex and aquashield, but now its gone.

Anyway, advice on the aquashield, great white usage?

WHat else should i be using aside from basic Micro and Bloom nutes?

sherriberry said:

okay, so i have no clue what my res temp is, but i have a feeling it is over the 70 mark because the room is 78 because its a veg table (it is nft tho, no one has anything like it, imagine stinkbuds setup, only with 50 sprayers, and a whole table of gutter like principal with pvc pipes every 6 inches keeping water flowing down the incline, in equaly spaced rows.

Now... about chilling the water.

Ive seen water chillers mentioned, but never read up on them.

I will use them in my bloom room then for sure, IF I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO COOL THE RES USING THE PORTABLE AC UNIT I PLAN TO USE IN THE BLOOM ROOM.

I currently have no plants in bloom, nor the bloom room setup yet.

Let me know

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sure does sound like you need to cool things down a bit...i've never actually had that prob so i'm not really sure what will work....

do fans work to cool things down? and would using a portable AC bring up yoru energy bill too much?

curious myself...good question

See my home made chiller on the space shuttle.

If your room is 78 your res is probably cooler.........you don't have anything to check the temp????Is it cold in the region you live??

yeah, its cold, but the room its in is not. Its in a room with carpet, so the floor is not cold or anything.

Point me towards a good thread that shows how chillers work... if i really need one.

First I use H2O2, I started using it when I was having an Algae problem and the plants all responded really well to it so now I add a little every res change and I always use it for cleaning anything that will ever touch the plants.

As for water chillers, there pretty expensive from what I've looked at. My grow room is the room my furnace is in (its cold here so it runs a lot) and my room is usually 85 with the lights on and 76 at during the day with the lights off when the furnace doesnt run as much. My water will stay at 73 if unregulated but after pricing chillers I decided I could manually manage the temps with frozen water bottles, I dont work though so I'm always home to change them out evey 6-8 hours or so. I can keep it under 70 easy.

If your using a portable AC in your room you could make your own water chiller for not much money at all, just need an aquarium pump, some tube and a piece of aluminum line. Coil the aluminum line into a few coils and zip tie it in front of the AC then use the pump and tubing to pump water threw the coil.

Or vent cold air from the outside and lower your room temps

jcdws602 said:

Or vent cold air from the outside and lower your room temps

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oooh, good to know.



thx

what percentage h2o2 do you use to clean your equipment?

There is nothing wrong with H2O2 or chlorine used in smallamounts. they are merely oxidants. yes they will kill bacteria. Great White is not needed with chemical nutrients that contain a chelating agent. H2O2 or chlorine oxydize the tissue material of dead and dying roots, Phytoff is just diluted chlorine. Thousands ogf growers use chlorine. it is very widely use in the green house agricultural community. many growers use it in RO water between every resrvoir change. Mnay growers who have high reservoir temps use it almost daily in small amounts, however the test the residual levels of chlot rie so as to not use too much chlorine. If your resrvoir temps run just a few degres warmer thn you would like it is an alternative to water chilling. Some people with DWC and Bubble[onic use waht is in the agricultural communitty referred to as Spanish water. Spanish water is imply adding a small amount 0f H2O2 regularly. It is much harder to monitrthough as it is not as easilt tested for concentration as it oxidizes quickly then any excess temporarily becomes dissolved Oxygen. Just ignore Earl and maybe he will go away.