Perpetual Grow - Sog/Hydro/Area 51 Leds/Advanced Nuts

Well guys, ive been quite busy finishing the details of my new flowering setup, unhappy with my 100g, I have realized the problem was the space, 255watts of led for a 2'' x 2'' tent is too much, so my ne tent is 2.7'' x 2.7'' (same high 5.33''), i have double the grow area, so expecting doing things right get between 180 and 200 (for a total grow, starting all girls together).

BUUUUUUUUUUT because im gonna have 3 reservouirs i wont have to worry of getting out of weed nevermore!!!
Im using one half of the tent with a EBB and Flow system with a 15lits reservour, i have putted 12 clones and veg them for a week (still cant get the hand of cloning in rockwool, in land i have a 100% rate, but with the rockwool dont know! SOOOOOOOOOO for this i have made a mini cloning system with a 3lts reservour and i have use some parts used for gas pipes and stuff and cut a mi girls yoga mat for the 12 foam spaces for get the clone in place. I have put a great airpump (love the sera ones) 4 watts, 2 outlets. The clones have been for one day and they are up and looking for the 23watts cfl over them, in the other side ive got a 60watts cfl for my 5 moms.

In the other half i have 2 plastic tuppers (already colored and with a white cover so, awesome!! same as the cloning tupper but bigger).
The tuppers are 28 litters each so i expect good girls out of here.
The have six 3.75'' netpots each, so i pretend having 24 clones all of the time in the tent.
The air pump are sera 255 plus with 2 4'' airstones.

I pretend to veg the clones after they root for 5 days so they get a little nitrogen in them and grow a little, then to the netpots with clay pebbles.

Food:
Advanced Nutrients
-Connoiseur A+B
-B-52
-Big Bud
-Bud Candy
-Piranha
-Overdrive
-Final Phase
Atami
-AWA Leaves A+B (For clones and first week of flowering)
-Atazyme (all the way)
-RootFast (clones)
-Rootbastic (clones, first 2 weeks of flowering)
-Bloombastic

Ph up and down, allong CalMag were made by my, just the way Heisenberg does it hahaha


The MOMS

Dutch Passion Blueberry
Indica/Sativa 10/90
THC 11.9%
Flowering 60 days (9 weeks app.)

Reserva Privada Kandy Kush
Indica/Sativa 60/40
THC 20%
Flowering 65 days (9 weeks app.)
Genetics OG Kush x Trainwreck

Reserva Privada Sour Kush AKA Headband
Indica/Sativa 70/30
THC 18%
Flowering 65 days (9 weeks app.)
Genetics Sour Diesel x OG Kush

Medical Seeds Malakoff
Indica/Sativa 20/80
THC 20%
Flowering 73 days (10 1/2 weeks)
Genetics Strawberry Haze x White Widow

Medical Seeds 1024
Indica/Sativa 30/70
THC 23%
Flowering 77 days (11 weeks)
Genetics Not revealed

As the malakoff and 1024 have a flowering period between 70 and 80 days i have put them together in the ebb and flow.
The other 3 moms have the same flowering period (between 56 and 63 days, they are going in the 2 DWC's.

I pretend to taste these 5 flavours and leave 3 moms, so i can have the things going on in there while germinating new seeds to keep having new flavours and highs, I pretend to have some haze or other sativa with 120 flowering days, know with the 3 reservours i can have my wishes come true and stay with this system, or maybe having 4 dwc systems, but i think im staying with these setup.


Well im gonna leave the photos now, the girls in the flowering tent have 10 flowering days, i couldnt get them to same space (the rockwool problems). But know with the hidrocloner i think im gonna be better!

Well the photos
Hope you like my new setup!


The new tent, when i get my hands on some money im gonna buy a homebox S!


I have improved my electric setup =)


Cover the hole area of grow space =)


The girls


Other look


I have put 2 taps so i can drain the dwc with the hoses easy and clean !


The bubbler cloner


The Moms and cloning box


The Moms


The clones! on the right you can see a Salvia Divinorum clone i have rooted, im gonna clone 2 more so i can get enough Salvia to fly away to another galaxy's hehehe


Keep it smooooking!!
Hugs!

Good luck for this grow my friend.

Chronikool said:

Good luck for this grow my friend.

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Thanks Chronikool!!

I will be posting some pics next week when the second batch of clones goes into the dwc's.
hope you tag along!

The malakoff and 1024 are know starting their third flowering week out of 11.

do you have some mainly sativa that you can recommend, or some strains you have liked that are almost pure brain high, maybe some trippy effects?
or some indica that can blow my brains off? Im a little hardheaded so i need sometimes 3 bong hits to get high when i get used to the weed i have.

thanks my friend!!

I want to get my hands on TGA 'Timewreck' but i havent tried it....seemz like a good Sativa dominant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F187Xz-uuh8&list=PLpkPidxYLju-pU86TfBHYSfIq0MQ9iNZg&index=11

Big Bang packz a weighty punch...

Chronikool said:

I want to get my hands on TGA 'Timewreck' but i havent tried it....seemz like a good Sativa dominant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F187Xz-uuh8&list=PLpkPidxYLju-pU86TfBHYSfIq0MQ9iNZg&index=11

Big Bang packz a weighty punch...

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Woooaaah
I think ill get my hands on both seeds
thanks Chronik

Wuoa! Now I said that when I saw your electric setup. Ordered and clean. I will sit to see the development of this. How long have you been growing indoor marijuana? Best energies for you and your ladies .

LindaMaria said:

Wuoa! Now I said that when I saw your electric setup. Ordered and clean. I will sit to see the development of this. How long have you been growing indoor marijuana? Best energies for you and your ladies .

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Thanks LindaMaria, this is actually my forth grow in my life, ive started april 2012 so its 16 months growing weed =). Ive started in a wood closet ive maid 50cmx75cmx150 and a 250watts sodium from start to finish, ive gtow Quasar that time (the best strain i have ever smoke, pure euforia and laugh attacks. Then i passed to a 60x60 tent with 2 Bonsai Hero Leds and ive maid a scrog with White Widow and Critical +, and the past grow first time with hidroponics and with Area 51 Leds.
With these grow now i can be sattisfied, i just now can test strains with different foods, look for my holy grail strain and grow 120 flowering days sativas and 50 days indicas and have a lot of medication hehehe

You should post a journal when you start your grow!

Stay High! =)

Hi guys, im having this deficciency in some leaves, the one in the biggest clones, the smallest clones have a dark green, the big ones i think they are missing some P, and also maybe blockin Zinc,
What do you think it is?



My clones just start rooting today on the start of day 8, hope to have them in my flowering tent in about a week or ten days (so they have some good roots and have some N afeter enterning the tent)

Thanks guys!!

Come on guys, someone could give him an answer?
By the way Watonv I sent you an email Where did you buy the flowerpot for hydro?

Regards

LindaMaria said:

Come on guys, someone could give him an answer?
By the way Watonv I sent you an email Where did you buy the flowerpot for hydro?

Regards

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Thanks a lot Linda Maria, in fact it was overfeeding by me, so it was nutrient block of P. Problem solved.

Also im gonna take some pictures today, the ebb and flow has finished it 6 flowering week (5 to go) and one DWC tomorrow starts it 3 flowering week.

My conclusions, DWC kicks the ass of Ebb and Flow. And the hydroton really piss me of in ebb, its always one problem or another with clay pebbles.

(you can check in Soma store (cañamo) they have netpots for hydro)

Today i will upload pics and let you know!!

Thanks for passing by

Regards!

Well guys here's an Update to the date!

Ive had a Nutrient defficience in the Sativas (Malakoff and 1024) in the ebb and flow, first it was fault of the claypebbles and then i realize it was too high the EC i was giving them (arround 1500 us) and that was making the girls to block the P and other micro elements like Zing and Mag, thats my fault and i have correct it, now they are flowering with an EC of 1.2 and now 5 weeks to the cut im starting the bloombastic, the next week with overdrive and alternating them.

In the DWC i have from left to right 2 Sour Kush (reserva privada), 2 Kandy Kush (reserva privada) and 2 blueberrys from dutch passion. One thing LOVE THE DWC, so when the sativas are donne im putting 2 more DWC's same as the other side so i can go 1 DWC per strain. The girls love the DWC, they are starting their 3 week of flowering, the stems and the internodes awesomeeeee!! they have not streched themselves like in the ebb and flow (my fault cause the nuts and the fkn clay pebbles), think im gonna use another material because also has throw some orange stuff in the dwc, regarind i cleean them veeeeeeeeeeeeery well and rinse and rinse, but dont want them anymore so if you can advice me other product that would be awesome.

The reservours for the DWC are like 22/24 lts so its good for 6 girls, the pumps are Sera https://www.wharfaquatics.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=WA2562 4 watts each, one for each DWC with two 10'' rounded airstones each (they are reaally quiet).
Now i have changed to flowering nuts with an EC of 870, the girls loved it, but the blueberrys not so much, they have a little P defficiency, they eat a lot more than the other 2 strains.

Well here's the photos!! (the roots have some orange but its the claypebbles, i am cleaning them one each by hand so they are nice and big, the biggest roots are from the blueberrys so when im finish it all im gonna have 1 DWC with each strain (blueberry, kandy kush, sour kush and 1024)

The new 80x80x160 tent

(replaced my burn out leds with the old spectrum of A51, a little color wont make any damage at all =)


The Sativas (the uggly leafs are the remains of the problem ive had)


One DWC ready, in 3 days or so im moving the clones to the flowering tent

Some roots


The moms/cloning/vegging cabinet (23 watts over the clones, 60 watts over the Mammas)

The clones, in front 2 Salvia Divinorum Clones, now i have, 2 in here that i have transplanted, and 2 outside that i have aclimatate to outdoors, growing fast! =)

Roots of the clones, with 9 days in the bubbler,


Hope you like them guys!

Hi guys heres an update, the tent is full now.

I want to ask anyone using a-51 or similar leds what height you recommend, the girls height is great at the end of week nº2, but in third week they strech a lot!!

now the height of the canopy is 30cm, but when i first entered them was 65cm from the canopy, i have move it further so now the little ones are 80cm from the lights.

Hope you can help me, this is really pissing me of.

The DWC from the back is ending today the third flowerinf week, the DWC of the front tomorrow ends it first flowering week.

Im giving Veg Nuts untill day 7-10 (change when i see the first pistils)






Thanks a lot guys

Anyone can help?? or im alone in the forum?

watonv said:

Anyone can help?? or im alone in the forum?

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sorry buddy didn't see your earlier comments...........Stretch problem in hydro should be fast! lower P and raise N and drop the lights onto the girls chins and supercropping is your friend but will stress so keep that in mind. Good luck friend

PSUAGRO. said:

sorry buddy didn't see your earlier comments...........Stretch problem in hydro should be fast! lower P and raise N and drop the lights onto the girls chins and supercropping is your friend but will stress so keep that in mind. Good luck friend

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Thaaanks a lot Psuagroo!! About lowering the lights its a little difficult beause im having 4 different stages so im gonna start with veg nuts untill the end of the second week and in the third weel ill use a mix of half veg nutes and half flowering nuts to try to keep them low, im having my 2 week of flowering on the front dwc and im using 3/4 veg nutes and 1/4 flowering, in the third week i will use half and half and let you know.

Loving do the dwc, the internodes before the super strech they had in the 3-4 week of flowering where short and the girls where robust, now they look thin and long, but they are pretty strong, nothing compare to the ebb and flow, im putting 2 more dwc instead of that so im having 1 strain each dwc.

If you have some guides in nutes so they dont strecheed that much ill apreciatte!

Thanks a lot Psuagro!

watonv said:

Thaaanks a lot Psuagroo!! About lowering the lights its a little difficult beause im having 4 different stages so im gonna start with veg nuts untill the end of the second week and in the third weel ill use a mix of half veg nutes and half flowering nuts to try to keep them low, im having my 2 week of flowering on the front dwc and im using 3/4 veg nutes and 1/4 flowering, in the third week i will use half and half and let you know.

Loving do the dwc, the internodes before the super strech they had in the 3-4 week of flowering where short and the girls where robust, now they look thin and long, but they are pretty strong, nothing compare to the ebb and flow, im putting 2 more dwc instead of that so im having 1 strain each dwc.

If you have some guides in nutes so they dont strecheed that much ill apreciatte!

Thanks a lot Psuagro!

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yes cut out the flower(high P) nutes due to the height restrictions and use only the grow high N until stretch stops and go back to flower ferts..should help as will training if you can.,,,,good luck

many thanks as always!
Thanks for helping everytime!

Hey watonv

Looking good, I've been really interested in the a51 lights they look very promising. Is this the first time you've used them? How do you like them so far. How big is your tent again? Thanks man keep up the good work!

Wreched75 said:

Hey watonv

Looking good, I've been really interested in the a51 lights they look very promising. Is this the first time you've used them? How do you like them so far. How big is your tent again? Thanks man keep up the good work!

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Hey Wreched!
I been using them for now 2 cuts, today y have cut some 1024 (ill post pics later) The density i get from these leds is awesome, almost pure rocks!
My tent is 80cm x80cm x 160cm
Im having 4 dwc so im gonna cut almost every 15-25 days, about between 40g and 50g i hope. im cutting 1 dwc in about 3 weeks so im having some numbers to estimate the production =)


Thanks for your words!!!
Any other question ill answer it gladly!
Keep it growin'

Any updates?