Plant Problems, Need Help
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skunkushybrid
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Do I need to do anything to see the pic's?
skunkushybrid
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ok, you have bad ph. The plants in the first pic' are clearly overnuted, and the second are sufferring from deficiency. Complexing, i know especially as you've most likely been feeding them the same way.
Which is why this is a ph problem. The ph of your medium has reached a point of lockout. In trying to correct this problem you have most likely treated for deficiency in the first set of plants with correct ph and severely overnuted them.
I can only imagine you have tried the same thing with the other set, only that the lockout has saved them from the same fate.
The first set of plants may take 2 weeks to recover which is a lot of weight lost, after flushing, and plain ph'd waterings.
The second set will recover quite well after a normal ph'd feed. How have you managed to get here? Do you have a ph meter?
Which is why this is a ph problem. The ph of your medium has reached a point of lockout. In trying to correct this problem you have most likely treated for deficiency in the first set of plants with correct ph and severely overnuted them.
I can only imagine you have tried the same thing with the other set, only that the lockout has saved them from the same fate.
The first set of plants may take 2 weeks to recover which is a lot of weight lost, after flushing, and plain ph'd waterings.
The second set will recover quite well after a normal ph'd feed. How have you managed to get here? Do you have a ph meter?
skunkushybrid
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Actually, on closer inspection, the first plants are severely undernuted too. Not overnuted. sorry.
definite ph lockout in your medium.
definite ph lockout in your medium.
HERBDRYER
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I Leached Them About 2 Weeks Ago When The Leaves Started To Look Like Plant Pic 2. I Leached Them With Water That I Adjusted The Ph To 6.5 After That I Put Just All Purpose Fert In, 1/2 Gallon In Each 5 Gal Pot, Mixed 1 Scoop To A Gallon. We Tested The Soil Before Leaching Them And It Showed Ph Was Good On Most, A Few Said It Was Low. I Only Tested 3 Of Them For N & K In The Soil And They Were Both Low. Thats Why I Just Used The All Purpose Fert To Bring Up The N & K.
Prior To Leaching Them I Tried A New Bloom Fert Pictured Below. The Plants Weren't Looking To Good, So I Thought I Would Try Something New. I Also Need To Mention That 3 Out Of The 6 Plants Were Clones From The Same Plant. I Don't Know If That Matters Or Not. The Plant They Came From I Had To Cut Early Due To What I Believe Was Aphids. I Cut Everything Down And Sanitized The Room Before Moving New Ones In.
As Far As The Lights, We Have 3, I Don't Remember Off Hand What They Are, But We Have Been Using The Same Ones Since We Started And There Was Never A Problem Before. The Tops Are At Least 18" From The Light And They Are Not Directly Under The Light Itself. Lights Are In Center And Plants Are Along The Walls Of An 8.5 X 3.5 Area. The Temp Goes Up To 85-87 If It Is Kept Closed, But We Normally Have It Opened. The Temp Now Is 74.
I'm Getting Ready To Cut Down 3 Of Them Now. I'm At A Loss As To What To Do With The Others.
Thanks
Prior To Leaching Them I Tried A New Bloom Fert Pictured Below. The Plants Weren't Looking To Good, So I Thought I Would Try Something New. I Also Need To Mention That 3 Out Of The 6 Plants Were Clones From The Same Plant. I Don't Know If That Matters Or Not. The Plant They Came From I Had To Cut Early Due To What I Believe Was Aphids. I Cut Everything Down And Sanitized The Room Before Moving New Ones In.
As Far As The Lights, We Have 3, I Don't Remember Off Hand What They Are, But We Have Been Using The Same Ones Since We Started And There Was Never A Problem Before. The Tops Are At Least 18" From The Light And They Are Not Directly Under The Light Itself. Lights Are In Center And Plants Are Along The Walls Of An 8.5 X 3.5 Area. The Temp Goes Up To 85-87 If It Is Kept Closed, But We Normally Have It Opened. The Temp Now Is 74.
I'm Getting Ready To Cut Down 3 Of Them Now. I'm At A Loss As To What To Do With The Others.
Thanks
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canadiancowboy
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What were the 1st leaves affected by this ,top or bottom?
Looks like a micronutrient deficiency
ccb
Looks like a micronutrient deficiency
ccb
skunkushybrid
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The only thing you can do, as there is definitely some type of lockout in your medium, is flush. In your attempts to rectify this problem there could be all sorts going on in there. after a flush you shouldn't go back to feeding nutes straight away as a flush may still leave residues of salts behind, particularly in soil.
Do you have an ec meter to make up feeds? And how do you test for ph?
Do you have an ec meter to make up feeds? And how do you test for ph?
HERBDRYER
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No I Don't Have An Ec Meter. We Have A Soil Testing Kit We Use To Check The Nutes In The Soil. I Check The Ph With A Pool Water Tester Before I Water The Plants.
What Should The Ph Be When I Flush?
After That For Watering?
I Have Heard And Red So Many Different Things. I Try To Keep It And 6.5 Or Under. Once Every Couple Weeks I Just Us Plain Tap Water Without Doing Anything To The Ph. Is That A Mistake? It Never Seemed To Bother My Other Crops.
Thanks For Your Time.
What Should The Ph Be When I Flush?
After That For Watering?
I Have Heard And Red So Many Different Things. I Try To Keep It And 6.5 Or Under. Once Every Couple Weeks I Just Us Plain Tap Water Without Doing Anything To The Ph. Is That A Mistake? It Never Seemed To Bother My Other Crops.
Thanks For Your Time.
canadiancowboy
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Could be an [FE] iron deficiency, it starts at the top and works it`s way down.
[MG] magnesium deficiency looks identical, but starts at the bottom and goes up.
On 1 of your plants water with some rusty water[ nails in a bucket works] see if that helps after a couple of days.
Hope this helps ya some.
ccb
[MG] magnesium deficiency looks identical, but starts at the bottom and goes up.
On 1 of your plants water with some rusty water[ nails in a bucket works] see if that helps after a couple of days.
Hope this helps ya some.
ccb