Please watch my video and tell me if I have a problem

jaytea

jaytea

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Ebb and Flow system
General Hydroponic nutes following exact feeding schedule posted on their website
Temps range from 60f to 75f in grow room , Reservoir temps range from 60f to 70f
3 1/2 weeks into veg and just switched to 12/12 5 days ago and started feeding transition period nutes.

Problem : Swamp Smell in REz. , Had brown slime what looked like algae in Rez , some roots look like they are stained brown but don't appear to be rotted.

Your advice welcome

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jaytea

jaytea

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noalibi said:
How often do you change the water in the reservoir?
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Well it has only been 3 1/2 weeks since i put the clones in there I changed it once after 10 days and then again 5 days ago. But the first time I changed the water I only drained the rez most of the way down until the pump stopped , there was still some left in it. The last time I changed it , i noticed the brown slime and cleaned and sterilized my rez and upped my Dutch Master Zone
 
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Johnxnyg

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Thanks for the video. I'm learning as well and this is a huge help. I'm going flood n drain as well... Sorry I can't help but ty for posting this up!

I dono if it helps but my aero cloner had that swampy smell. I put some flying skull z7 water conditioner, and now it's perfectly clear and smells like a crystal spring..... With my growing out lol
 
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unwine

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General hydroponics can stain roots..........and so can that hydroton dust that I see accumulated in the corners of your tray. I'm not sure you have a clear cut case of bad root rot YET, your plants look OK, but slime is never good and neither is an off-odor. I would do a couple things: I would go find another tray, as you said, one that promotes better drainage; also, I would fill your entire tray with hydroton so the roots can expand through the tray as they please. Then I would re-sterilize the system and change the res....... I'd be willing to bet that your issues would be resolved at that point.
 
jaytea

jaytea

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unwine said:
General hydroponics can stain roots..........and so can that hydroton dust that I see accumulated in the corners of your tray. I'm not sure you have a clear cut case of bad root rot YET, your plants look OK, but slime is never good and neither is an off-odor. I would do a couple things: I would go find another tray, as you said, one that promotes better drainage; also, I would fill your entire tray with hydroton so the roots can expand through the tray as they please. Then I would re-sterilize the system and change the res....... I'd be willing to bet that your issues would be resolved at that point.
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I was thinking the same thing , but I am not messing with a new tray until after this grow. Also the hydroton floats so I don't know if filling the bottom will work because that shit would just be floating at the surface when the pump is on. I think I may go buy some crushed lava rock and line the bottom of the tray instead , some Pumas I think its called .. It's heavier and will stay at the bottom during the flood cycle. What do you think?

EDIT: oh wait you mean fill the entire flood table tray with hydroton? hmmm but the pump would still push it around especially around the spout... I will look in to it.
 
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unwine

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Once the hydroton is fully saturated, it doesn't float anymore. :smile: I've only used hydroton, but I'm sure you could use just about anything you wanted.

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jaytea

jaytea

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unwine said:
Once the hydroton is fully saturated, it doesn't float anymore. :smile: I've only used hydroton, but I'm sure you could use just about anything you wanted.

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Nice! I never thought to use it that way , I always thought just in the net pots. Going to get more hydroton tomorrow but I think I will buy the bigger balls than the small ones , they may not float as much. Anything you recommend as far as purging whatever it is away? I am already using Dutch Master Zone and I used a little hydrogen peroxide already.
 
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unwine

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Yep, after I made those changes I would just scrub everything real good and clean with the h202, prune off any slimy brown roots poking out of the net pot, and after I refilled my res. I'd add the zone for maintenance. Honestly, you shouldn't even need zone at all after you fix those things. Once a system is set up properly, Root rot/ slime/Pythium usually only gains a foothold when roots are weak and decaying, usually from improper ph/ppm -- it's like a secondary infection.
 
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panhead

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Instead of running Dutch Master Zone Get yourself some H2O2 30% peroxide & add it to a clean rez per instructions & run it the entire grow , it'll keep alge from starting , if you have scum problems its best to do a full rez dump & sterilize everything with 30% peroxide via spray bottle .

The grow rocks your talking about are much better than hydroton , with hydroton ya get those tiny little pebbles & the clay pellets wear down, the grow rocks never float even when dry & dont turn into pebbles , both products are filthy & need washing before use .

How well is your rez water protected from light ? Even the smallest light leak can cause alge to grow fast , it wouldnt hurt to wrap the grey portion of your rez with panda plastic .

If you do end up filling the table with stone its best if the top inch never gets wet cause it will grow alge fast as fuk , i agree with keeping light from the roots & i get around it by covering my flood tables with white panda plastic vs filling the table with rock .
 
jaytea

jaytea

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unwine said:
Yep, after I made those changes I would just scrub everything real good and clean with the h202, prune off any slimy brown roots poking out of the net pot, and after I refilled my res. I'd add the zone for maintenance. Honestly, you shouldn't even need zone at all after you fix those things. Once a system is set up properly, Root rot/ slime/Pythium usually only gains a foothold when roots are weak and decaying, usually from improper ph/ppm -- it's like a secondary infection.
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Yeah and the fact that my plants look healty is a good indicator I think that there isn't that much wrong .. Probably something I can fix easy. I'm just the kind of person that follows directions to the tee. I follow the directions on the back of the bottle of the DMZ and it says use every week 1mm per gallon .. I also use the full panel of the General Organics . The Micro Nutrients , The Grow , The Bloom , Floralicious , The roots stuff... Everything and I follow the directions to a tee. Also I am going to switch my light cycle where the lights are on during late night and early morning to keep the temps down.

Thanks for the input.
 
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unwine

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jaytea said:
Yeah and the fact that my plants look healty is a good indicator I think that there isn't that much wrong .. Probably something I can fix easy. I'm just the kind of person that follows directions to the tee. I follow the directions on the back of the bottle of the DMZ and it says use every week 1mm per gallon .. I also use the full panel of the General Organics . The Micro Nutrients , The Grow , The Bloom , Floralicious , The roots stuff... Everything and I follow the directions to a tee. Also I am going to switch my light cycle where the lights are on during late night and early morning to keep the temps down.

Thanks for the input.
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No problem man.......sounds like you got things under control.....good luck.
 
ebbnflow36

ebbnflow36

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If you want stick with clay pellets I suggest canna, their the cleanest I ever used and come in nice sized pellets a lot better then that plant !t crap
 
Zoltan32

Zoltan32

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I had to soak the crap out of my pellets, and they still wanted to float. I also started to go a similar route as you, individual plastic bags for each. Wound up just filling the whole dang tub. I used every bit of the clay pellets I had and didn't want to make another order. So I picked up some Lava rocks locally and incorporated a few cups of them into the mix. It brought my medium level up, and also stopped the floating. I think the key is your flood height; if your medium is floating, your either need to lower the flood outlet, or bring your medium up higher. My medium ended up about an inch and a half above the top of my overflow. Which helps keep the top dry, I also left the top of my medium exposed. Hope this helps, viva la ebb' n flow'! :joint:
 
ebbnflow36

ebbnflow36

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I take white bathtub paneling from home depot, cut it so it fits the lip of the flood tray. Then drill 6" holes (net pot size) for the # of plants I want in tray in my case 9 in a 4x4 tray. The paneling adds support, no pebbles float away, roots stay happy in the dark and with oxygen
 
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