seedling problems

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

Hello,
I'm a new grower and am bedazzled to what is wrong with this little seedling. I haven't given any nutes and am well aware of watering when it's dry as hell. Here is a pic if anyone could tell me what is going on and a solution it would be awesome.

Hydrotech364 · Dec 25, 2015

Start feeding,remove dead and dying tissue.No idea what you have available but that baby is hungry.

Diabolical666 · Dec 25, 2015

severely over watered

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

Hydrotech364 said:
Start feeding,remove dead and dying tissue.No idea what you have available but that baby is hungry.

Thanks!

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

Diabolical666 said:
severely over watered

Thanks!

az2000 · Dec 25, 2015

What soil do you use? I would have said overwatered too -- except you said you're well aware of waiting until it's very dry. I'm curious if it has any nutrients in the soil?

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

az2000 said:
What soil do you use? I would have said overwatered too -- except you said you're well aware of waiting until it's very dry. I'm curious if it has any nutrients in the soil?

I think It may, I put a water tray in and put a seedling maybe 1 month older wich takes nutes and this little guy in the tray. Do you think nutes could have leaked out of the older seedling pot went into the water tray and got sucked up by this one?
I use 75% peat moss and 25% perlite, thanks!

az2000 · Dec 25, 2015

I meant if the soil had nutrients out of the bag. If it swapped spit with another plant, it should be ok. I agree hydtrotech, it's must be hungry if it's just peat and perlite. Did you amend any dolomite lime? (What brand of peat? Did it have dolomite out of the bag?). That may make a difference at some point. Peat can become acidic.

What are you feeding?

It looks dense and heavy to me. I'm surprised that's only peat and perlite. I would do 50% perlite next time.

Diabolical666 · Dec 25, 2015

no dude, its as simple as over watering....
over watering is the worst fucking thing for a pot plant, it sufficates the roots and locks out nutrients. I can tell you are over watering by many reasons 1: your leaves have gone yellow and crispy 2. thats too much fucking water in that pot in the pic. It needs like a half of a measuring cup of water, maybe less per environment. If you are checking on this plant daily, do you really need to drown it? This is a huge problem with new growers

whitebb2727 · Dec 25, 2015

Quite watering it.

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

Diabolical666 said:
no dude, its as simple as over watering....
over watering is the worst fucking thing for a pot plant, it sufficates the roots and locks out nutrients. I can tell you are over watering by many reasons 1: your leaves have gone yellow and crispy 2. thats too much fucking water in that pot in the pic. It needs like a half of a measuring cup of water, maybe less per environment. If you are checking on this plant daily, do you really need to drown it? This is a huge problem with new growers

Thanks! I think the biggest problem was a tray I used. When I put all my pots in a tray they all absorbed water from it till the soil was soaked. Do you think it will be able to come back?

Diabolical666 · Dec 25, 2015

justugh · Dec 25, 2015

go one better for the guy/gal

get a small air pump and air stone ......fill a jug of water 3/4 full put the air stone down in the water (make sure cool/cold water 58/62 f) ....run the air pump in the water add water in so nearly full but not over flowing with the bubbles

this really works better with a big bucket and running for like 2/3 hours in the mid 50s ...........but basically the cold water retains desolved oxygen so the plants roots never have this issue again

make sure the water goes tho a filter if u plan to store the water/keep the stone running .....this high of oxygen stuff can grow in the bucket /water and on the airline

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

Diabolical666 said:
no

Thanks!

justugh · Dec 25, 2015

Newgrowjournal said:
Thanks! I think the biggest problem was a tray I used. When I put all my pots in a tray they all absorbed water from it till the soil was soaked. Do you think it will be able to come back?

if they are photo plants yes
1 transplant them into a larger soil base 5/7 gallon planters
2 stop watering for atleast 2 days let the soil wick away extra
3 alter the feed plan to include b-52 rooting and 1/2 normal grow
4 limit the total amount of water given to the planter.......5/7 gallon 1000/800mls a quart mason jar per planter at this stage about every 2/3 days (watering from the outer edge in making the roots branch out for the water )

az2000 · Dec 25, 2015

What fertilizer are you using? Did you intend to grow soilless (peat and perlite)?

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

Current fertilizer is called plant prod, it's a chemical mix, 20/20/20 i haven't nutted this little guy yet but i have been using it on my other plant and its growing like a champs, putting on 1-3 inches all around every day. For the peat and perlite i did intend to go for a soilless mix because i find it gives the grower more of a feel of how the plants work, i initially wanted to go with coco but this pete and perlite were like 8$ on sale so i said why not, Thanks!

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

justugh said:
if they are photo plants yes
1 transplant them into a larger soil base 5/7 gallon planters
2 stop watering for atleast 2 days let the soil wick away extra
3 alter the feed plan to include b-52 rooting and 1/2 normal grow
4 limit the total amount of water given to the planter.......5/7 gallon 1000/800mls a quart mason jar per planter at this stage about every 2/3 days (watering from the outer edge in making the roots branch out for the water )

I herd a 3/5 gallon pot should suffice as i'm not looking to grow a huge plant just tryin to survive veg to harvest to get a feel of things for my first grow, is this correct? Watering around the edges is absolutely genius, will def start that. For number 3 i don't really understand the terms, i'm quite the noob haha :3 Thanks for your tips!!

az2000 · Dec 25, 2015

Newgrowjournal said:
For the peat and perlite i did intend to go for a soilless mix because i find it gives the grower more of a feel of how the plants work,

I agree. I think one of the most foolproof ways for a new grower is Pro-Mix HP (or BX with vermiculite if you're under HID) and Gen. Hydro. Flora 3-part at half-strength every watering. That's similar to your medium, although Pro-Mix HP has 40-50% perlite (just eyeballing it).

Did your peat product have dolomite? (I forgot if you answered that question.). My concern is, if you don't use a reputable soilless product you might encounter problems with ph.

If you have a ppm or ec meter, I encourage you to watch your runoff ppms. That will come in handy if you have typical early-flower problems. Also, the more runoff you have can help avoid those problems. I shoot for 20%. After a grow or two you can dial in your nutrient strength and runoff volume for whatever works best.

Newgrowjournal · Dec 25, 2015

az2000 said:
I agree. I think one of the most foolproof ways for a new grower is Pro-Mix HP (or BX with vermiculite if you're under HID) and Gen. Hydro. Flora 3-part at half-strength every watering. That's similar to your medium, although Pro-Mix HP has 40-50% perlite (just eyeballing it).

Did your peat product have dolomite? (I forgot if you answered that question.). My concern is, if you don't use a reputable soilless product you might encounter problems with ph.

If you have a ppm or ec meter, I encourage you to watch your runoff ppms. That will come in handy if you have typical early-flower problems. Also, the more runoff you have can help avoid those problems. I shoot for 20%. After a grow or two you can dial in your nutrient strength and runoff volume for whatever works best.

The soil in the bag claims to be 50% perlite and 50% pete moss, but from the looks of it, it didn't drain that well and it had almost no perlite visually, so i added in 25% to 75%. My ph is always at around 5.8-6.2 i think that is where it should be but i could be wrong. I have a ppm meter but havn't used it yet, i will be sure to measure in the next watering. I'm growing with cfl's. Thanks!

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