Seeing some amazing seeds going around.. anyone else seeing this trait?

Ap420

Member
Hey there,

Recently I made an order and got one fem greenhouse cheese, dinafem ww and a autojack, along with another seedbanks golden nugget strain.

However, I also had a baggie of a few seeds a friend had given me who is always coming across very unique, potent, and good strains. He rarely finds seeds, or thats what he says, and he gave me some. I germinated all of them. The greenhouse cheese came up without a tester or cotyledon, just one, and still grew and she is thriving, as are the critical jack, ww, and the Golden Nuggets, they are all feminized. I put down four of these baggie seeds. I figured one or two would be female. Initially there was slower growth and a very obvious difference between the bag seeds and the ones I had recieved from the seed banks, and that just comes down to genetics, but then an amazing thing started happening-

The first bag seed I layed down I seeded about a week or two before I put the other three in, so she had a head start. Within her first TWO WEEKS of life she sprouted pistils, and now it would be her 5th week of veg today, however her "preflowers" are exact to a typical large budding plant around the third week or fourth of budding cycle. I have my light on 18/6, and my dad gave me this heat shielfding stuff it is kind of like bubble wrap but silver and it keeps a heat shield and a very reflective sutrface. My reason for the lighting is because I thought I am in veg here and I know an auto should be able to thrive on a 18/6 cycle. The critical jack has pistils that are uncommonly long, and a VERY VERY silky to the touch vegetation anywhere on stems or branches, the buds starting to stack, not smelling too bad.

The first seed I laid down from the bag though, it smells justy like a bag of blue dream when I touch a "preflower" and smell becayse blue dream or "blue haze" was going aroind like NUTS where I live for a while, and I have to think tyhere is some type of blueberry in this, as I have had experience with photoperiod dutch passion blueberry, and the distinct blueberry smell and trait of red and purple veins in stems comes out, but the leaves are 9 serrated, indicating sativa, the nodes are very far apart with few clone sites, and it appears to be developing LIKE an auto. I am going to post a pic, but in the last week, we have seen height growth STOP and bud growth start to stack.

I am wondering maybe if it is possible people or this guy was trying to cross his photos with autos? Can this happen? Because it suprises me that doing something so unstable would resulty in such a stable plant. To be honest I ripped this plant out on accident in her firsty week of life from the pot ( soil growing, fox farms brand, 600HPS) and pout her back an hour and a half later and within a week she had bounced back and had sprouted pistils. HOWEVER I CAN ALSO CLONE HER. I have sucessfully taken two sets of clones- one was a bud site because there were not anymore, and she is actually REVERTING. I have done this once before sucessfully with a home eed form a bag and the leaves looked so peculiar once it had reverted from bud to veg state. I also took a younger clone and it has started to develop pistils , despite not having blooming "light periods" .

More interestingly, the three remaining seeds are so similar in appearence, it would take probably someone stupid to not see the relation. The leaves, right down to some serration and the way they form, are exact, and their shape , growth, and pistil development seems to be exact wit them. All are looking to want to be tal, but they look EXACTLY like mini palm trees. There are NOT many branches, and the bud sites that are there are very large and the pistils and calyx atre already swollen on all. They LOOK to be about 5 weeks in veg as far as how big they are but their eveloping flowers are much farther along. They emit no smell YET, the only one is the one that smells like a bag of blue dream. One thing I noticed from this guy is when I would get a bag from him, sometimres the "appeal" like the smell would be great butr the potentcy shit and I am wondering if this is why; maybe someone was experimenting with trying to pump em out faster so sacrificed quality? I am not sure. I know I am letting them go until it is time.. I have a microscope and base it on the receeding pistils, thhe trichomes and color of them, etc, and I have NO CLUE how long these will stay in bud and if I should pout these on 12/12 ( these meaning the ones that seem to be autos.. I dont know if putitng them on little light will hinder their development) . I am open to vegging the cheese, ww, and golden nuigget, as all benefit from a long veg if you give em one, but I am wondering if anyone else here has seen this "phenomenon" with any of their bag seeds that they might have tried? I know it may be hard to picture without seeing, so I am going to include pictures if I can this is my firsty post in a long time so I will reply to this with pics I go take. Thank you for any input!
 

Ap420

Member
This is a pic of the plant that smells like there is maybe a blueberry gene somewhere in it.. this is FIFTH WEEK VEG.. since it has been a seed. I remember ten yrears ago I had tried to plant some shitty ditch seeds in miracle grow.. first time ever... and to the suprise of most here... it grew wonderful... both enfded up female no hermie, but I had no clue what I was doing. The buds were all cottony and fluffy and I had both plants in a 15 gallon bucket they were like two small trees when I cut them down at the 9th week and I wrecked it all on my own as I did not prepare myself for the dryuing process, didnt understand a THING about curing, and ended up with tons of moldy crap lol.

The reason I relate this is tgat I do remember these two particular bag seeds, the first I ever did in my life, the buds were very cottony but I dont remember it ever looking like how the picture shows. I have now started a regimine with beastie bloom tiger bloom, and the jump start. I have been considering one more transplant since this would be right before she really starts to put on weight but I am not sure because she seems to be doing good but what this shows me is someone is trying to do some goodf breeding with autos.. only time will tell about the product.. one thing I can say is when I bought bags from this person who found the seeds, when I would look with my 12 dollar microscope from radioshack, mostly all trichomes were NOT mature, and it was almost always early, or what I consider to be early which is mostly clear trihomes, not too many, and barely any amber, if at all, so it seems this person is about speed. I am a personal grower, and smoker, and I do NOT sell or greow for cvommercial, just my enjoyment. I am wondering if I am wasting good soil and nutes on a shit plant here but my husband just said too it smells exactly like the blue dream bags we had from this guy or what he SAID was blue dream...

I will be starting a jouirnal with my dinafem, greenhouse cheese, and Golden NUgget from marijuana-seeds.nl ( this strain is wonderful gets very potent but you have to prepare to take care of smell for sure with this one!) one they have gotten past the mid seedling stage. I always think it is kind of the same I guess when you start,,, it is my opinion once you do this a while if you always have problems just getting through the first month then you are maybe doing something wrong.

All have shown pistils, but again the brand photoperiods are holding out any preflowers besides the pistils until I induce 12/12, like normal. It is hard for me to believe this is simply just a "very large preflower",....1st set 828.jpg1st set 829.jpg1st set 763.jpg1st set 762.jpg1st set 825.jpg1st set 823.jpg1st set 765.jpg
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
Its not clear to me what the exact question is here, but to address some of the above:

-If your plant started making REAL flower clusters (not just "preflowers") at 2-3 weeks of age under 18 hour lighting, then yes, its not an "ordinary" photoperiod plant. Is it an "autoflower"? See below.

-There are strains that fall somewhere in between "ordinary" photoperiod plants that require 10 hours of darkness to flower and true autos that will flower under any light regimen. Some of the early/outdoor strains (including Guerilla gold and Iranian autoflower) will flower under only aroiund 8-9 hours of darkness. So basically if you put them outside, they'll start flowering at virtually any time of the year, but indoors under artificial light you can clone them or maintain them vegetatively. Its entirely possible that you have something like this.

If you do, these plants are absolutely GOLDEN for growing outside, because again, you can keep clones handy, put them outside at different times of year, and even get different harvests at different times of year. Supposedly the two strains mentioned above also exhibit good potency.

-Yes, its possible to cross auto and photoperiod plants. The F1 offspring of such a cross should not be autos themselves, but if you cross any two F1s, 1/4 of the ensuing F2 generation should be autos. I don't think this applies to what you've described, though. So far as I know there is no way to cross an auto and an ordinary photoperiod to get a plant that will flower under relatively low light restriction, like the early/"semi-auto" plants described above.

-The pictures you show demonstrate plants with super wide leaves, suggesting a pure subcontinental indica strain. There are a number of indica-dominant autoflowers out there, and by report many of them are pretty good (eg Afghan Kush ryder).

-The two absolutely most important things in determining potency are a. Genetics, and b. Proper harvest. Genetics are self-explanatory; if you want potent weed, you have to start with a strain that can deliver it. Harvest basically comes down to WAITING until the right time. DO NOT cut down your plant too early. As to when you should harvest, there are a zillion posts on that, but in a nutshell you want to cut down your plant when the resin glands (trichromes) on the flowers start to turn yellow/amber, and one way to check that is with a small loupe or handheld microscope.

-There are MANY strains hybridized from DJ Shorts famous blueberry, and its certainly possible that what you have is one of them. As to figuring out "exactly" what it is. . .good luck with that. . .its virtually impossible to determine a plants genetic lineage just by looking at it.
 
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