should be a proud moment for the left

jeff f

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2010/01/18/wh-chief-staff-emanuels-joke-first-amendment-its-highly-overrated-its-

here is your "progressive". and you numb nuts try to tell us, "you right wing nut jobs are just patanoid".

well here is your boy in his words.

here we come november!!! we are gonna run your rotten fucking communists/nazi mother fuckers asses over.

if i were a liberal heading out to vote the tuesday of november, i would be extra careful because the conservatives are gonna run your asses over. i have been dreaming of this moment since 94. :-P
 
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Keenly

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2010/01/18/wh-chief-staff-emanuels-joke-first-amendment-its-highly-overrated-its-

here is your "progressive". and you numb nuts try to tell us, "you right wing nut jobs are just patanoid".

well here is your boy in his words.

here we come november!!! we are gonna run your rotten fucking communists/nazi mother fuckers asses over.

if i were a liberal heading out to vote the tuesday of november, i would be extra careful because the conservatives are gonna run your asses over. i have been dreaming of this moment since 94. :-P

well i hate to say it dude but your link takes us to the news website only to give us the message

"page not found"

better find it
 

fitch303

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2010/01/18/wh-chief-staff-emanuels-joke-first-amendment-its-highly-overrated-its-



WH Chief of Staff Emanuel's Joke - 'The First Amendment...It's Highly Overrated' - and its Proper Context

By Seton Motley (Bio | Archive)
Mon, 01/18/2010 - 17:14 ET

The Word of the Day is: Context.
First, as to the video at right. Its context is the May 9, 2009 White House Correspondents Association Dinner. At which White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel uttered the following:
"When you think about the First Amendment...you think it's highly overrated."
Emanuel said this to an unidentified entertainment reporter (I did not toil too strenuously to ascertain his identity). But said scribe seemed a little bewildered by Emanuel's assertion, despite the obvious mirth in Rahm's face as he delivers the line - at the Correspondents' Dinner. The irony appears to escape the man with the microphone.
But given how the Administration has gone on to handle all things First Amendment, perhaps this journalist is not humor-addled, but prescient. Let us now place Emanuel's remark into the proper Administrative context.

Beginning with their ongoing abuse and manipulation of the Fourth Estate - even if the Fourth Estate is all too often a willing supplicant.
There was their War on Fox News (FNC), up to and including their attempted ouster of FNC from a press event with White House "Pay Czar" Kenneth Feinberg. Which led FNC's competitors - NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN - to begrudgingly stand with FNC and the First Amendment against the Administration.
And there was their War on Rush Limbaugh - which only resulted in yet another launch in Limbaugh's ratings.
Hey, we said the Administration was doing it, not that they were any good at it.
Then there's the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) appointment of Mark Lloyd to a position created just for him - Chief Diversity Officer. Lloyd, who of the First Amendment wrote in his 2006 book Prologue to a Farce:
"It should be clear by now that my focus here is not freedom of speech or the press. This freedom is all too often an exaggeration. At the very least, blind references to freedom of speech or the press serve as a distraction from the critical examination of other communications policies.
"[T]he purpose of free speech is warped to protect global corporations and block rules that would promote democratic governance."
Lloyd is a treasure trove of anti-First Amendment words and ideas. In 2007 while a Senior Fellow at the George Soros-funded, John Podesta-run Center for American Progress, he co-authored (with equally anti-free speech outfit Free Press) the ridiculous "report" entitled The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio.
The Left, having given up on reinstating the so-called "Fairness" Doctrine, have since sought alternate routes to arrive at the same censorious destination. This "report" is their road map, using FCC broadcast regulations "localism" and "diversity" to effect the same outcome - the silencing of conservative and Christian talk radio.
Speaking of Free Press, the FCC is currently working on their National Broadband Plan (NBP). Topping out at an estimated $350 billion (and that's just Round One), the NBP would go a long way towards having the government - not private companies - be the average American's Internet Service Provider (ISP). And that will do wonders for the First Amendment, will it not?
This is just the sort of "media reform" that Free Press wants. Said their founder - avowed Marxist Robert McChesney:
"(T)he ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control."​
Then you have Maryland Democratic Senator Ben Cardin's newspaper bailout bill. Is anyone's confidence in continued fidelity to the First Amendment left brimming with the concept of the government paying for newspapers that cover - the government? It's a guaranteed recipe for converting watchdogs to lapdogs (as if we aren't already there).
Then you have West Virginia Democratic Senator John Rockefeller's bill, which would during a so-called cybersecurity emergency allow President Obama to seize temporary control of private-sector internet networks - i.e. ISPs. Warms your First Amendment cockles, does it not?
Which brings us back to Emanuel, who just after Obama's victorious 2008 election uttered the now famous phrase:
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."
So the entertainment reporter may have simply foreseen what was laying in First Amendment store with Emanuel and the Administration. And placed it in its proper context. Smart guy.



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2010/01/18/wh-chief-staff-emanuels-joke-first-amendment-its-highly-overrated-its-#ixzz0dHiV8ad2
 

matthew

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Hello, can you not tell the difference between a joke and reality? If you think Rahm was serious then you must have been scared out of your fucking mind for the last 8 years.

"It's just a goddamned piece of paper"
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier"

Now those 2 are off the top of my head, do you really want me to google some of the dumb/scary stuff said by the Bush administration?
 
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Illegal Smile

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Hello, can you not tell the difference between a joke and reality? If you think Rahm was serious then you must have been scared out of your fucking mind for the last 8 years.

"It's just a goddamned piece of paper"
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier"

Now those 2 are off the top of my head, do you really want me to google some of the dumb/scary stuff said by the Bush administration?
He was a serious as Trent Lott and George Allen were about what they said. Again, the left can't stand a level playing field.
 

Man o' the green

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Hello, can you not tell the difference between a joke and reality? If you think Rahm was serious then you must have been scared out of your fucking mind for the last 8 years.

"It's just a goddamned piece of paper"
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier"

Now those 2 are off the top of my head, do you really want me to google some of the dumb/scary stuff said by the Bush administration?
Sorry, that joke fell sort of flat on me, and I'm sure for many other people. There has been a little too much control that the executive has taken in the past year, just in general. I think people wonder what the administrations true goals are in reference to the first amendment, and how serious they are about "protecting the constitution". So when I hear this "joke", I wonder if its not just a true reflection of how seriously they take their oath.

EDIT : I believe the oath states "to defend the constitution"
 

hanimmal

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He was a serious as Trent Lott and George Allen were about what they said. Again, the left can't stand a level playing field.
As long as we all know we are hypocritical on both sides.

I think if anything (guy above my post) the news has been the ones messing with the bounds of the first amendment lately, and that is why people are so scared shitless over the last 9 years. It has nothing to do with things actually being done differently, it is just that the story being told is about as close to reality as district 9.
 

Man o' the green

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As long as we all know we are hypocritical on both sides.

I think if anything (guy above my post) the news has been the ones messing with the bounds of the first amendment lately, and that is why people are so scared shitless over the last 9 years. It has nothing to do with things actually being done differently, it is just that the story being told is about as close to reality as district 9.
To me "freedom of speech" is a fairly straightforward principle, with few exceptions.

News seems to present selected facts and then spin it to a particular angle, and always has. Conservative media is popular, probably a reflection of the values of its consumers, but you are prohibited by the constitution from shooting the messenger. Both sides indoctrinate, the liberals just do it in other places, such as education.

I think we all can sort out fact from opinion, true from false, as long as you trust the individual to know what's right, not the government.
 

hanimmal

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I don't agree with the fact that news spins something to their angle. It was done that way, but over the last 7 years it has mutated.

They now find a particular section of a verse and turn that into something that is completely untrue, and has no basis of fact. They just make shit up, slap a small bit of a quote taken completely out of context, and boom, scandal.

And to think that people do not take what MSNBC, CNN, Fox, and talk radio say as truth, well you decide if you truly believe they don't or not.


I have no issue with them doing it, but they should not be able to label it 'news'. If I buy a can of coke for my 3 year old son (I don't have one, this is a metaphor) at a store, and it is filled with jagermeister, wouldn't I have a right to get pissed that he is now hammered, because people can call stuff whatever they wish to?
 

jrh72582

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2010/01/18/wh-chief-staff-emanuels-joke-first-amendment-its-highly-overrated-its-

here is your "progressive". and you numb nuts try to tell us, "you right wing nut jobs are just patanoid".

well here is your boy in his words.

here we come november!!! we are gonna run your rotten fucking communists/nazi mother fuckers asses over.

if i were a liberal heading out to vote the tuesday of november, i would be extra careful because the conservatives are gonna run your asses over. i have been dreaming of this moment since 94. :-P
progressive = liberal = communist = nazi.

WOW, stunning logic.......stunning. Is there any logos in that little head of yours? You seem to be ruled by pathos alone. What caused that chip on your shoulder?
 

2much

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2010/01/18/wh-chief-staff-emanuels-joke-first-amendment-its-highly-overrated-its-

here is your "progressive". and you numb nuts try to tell us, "you right wing nut jobs are just patanoid".

well here is your boy in his words.

here we come november!!! we are gonna run your rotten fucking communists/nazi mother fuckers asses over.

if i were a liberal heading out to vote the tuesday of november, i would be extra careful because the conservatives are gonna run your asses over. i have been dreaming of this moment since 94. :-P
chill little man, your empty threats are just stupid, p.s. not all "left wingers" are pacifists
 

jeff f

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progressive = liberal = communist = nazi.

WOW, stunning logic.......stunning. Is there any logos in that little head of yours? You seem to be ruled by pathos alone. What caused that chip on your shoulder?
okay try this

statists that want to take all your money and rights away and give them to someone who knows better sitting in a govt job. tyrants!

there, you should be able to understand that. :-P
 

jeff f

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as a web site, i'm embarrassed.
technically, thats impossible. a website is inatimate that cannot feel emotions.

are you embarrased by my post? or are you embarrassed that people who are excercising free speech on your website have no problem with a govt that thinks free speech is overated?

me personally, i WAS embarrassed that my country allowed a bunch of chicago thug radicals to take over the helm. we might as well have elected the leader of the black panthers or the kkk.

i STILL am completely embarrassed by a press who refused to tell us what this guy was all about until it was too late. they deserve the death sentence in my opinion.

i am currently excited by my country and its people who are saying, "fuck this, we have had enough." the thugs have awakened a sleeping giant like no time in my lifetime. its very exciting to live in these times.
 
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PadawanBater

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technically, thats impossible. a website is inatimate that cannot feel emotions.

are you embarrased by my post? or are you embarrassed that people who are excercising free speech on your website have no problem with a govt that thinks free speech is overated?

me personally, i WAS embarrassed that my country allowed a bunch of chicago thug radicals to take over the helm. we might as well have elected the leader of the black panthers or the kkk.

i STILL am completely embarrassed by a press who refused to tell us what this guy was all about until it was too late. they deserve the death sentence in my opinion.

i am currently excited by my country and its people who are saying, "fuck this, we have had enough." the thugs have awakened a sleeping giant like no time in my lifetime. its very exciting to live in these times.
Dude, 3 years ago, if someone said this shit about Bush, they'd be called unAmerican and unpatriotic.

We dealt with your bullshit for 8 YEARS. STUFF IT and GET USED TO IT. Your one little man jeff, what the hell are you and all your teabagger buddies going to do about it? Nothing, that's what. Just keep bitching and moaning. Until you realize it's the system that is fucked and not only the liberal politicians, dealing with you on any kind of serious level is utterly pointless.

Keep all your conservative biased bullshit to yourself. Not the article, but the way you blame everything from the rash on your ass you got at the beach to the time you stubbed your toe back in grade school on the fuckin' libs in the gov. You're nothing but a joke man, wake the fuck up.

Fuck Obama.
 

jeff f

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Keep all your conservative biased bullshit to yourself. Not the article, but the way you blame everything from the rash on your ass you got at the beach to the time you stubbed your toe back in grade school on the fuckin' libs in the gov. You're nothing but a joke man, wake the fuck up.

Fuck Obama.
so you agree with rohm? kul! we should all just shut up and go away....

and we cant do shit about it? oh contrare dummy. look to elections my friend. we are awake and we are taking the left down.

the "cleansing" of the communists has begun! and us conservatives damn sure dont want you guys to shut up....keep talkin bro, that way we can single you out :-P:-P
 

laughingduck

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His logic is not off by much,
Progressive=Liberal=Socialist=Communist ....the Nazis were just Socialists and the most Progressive in Europe. I am a big fan of there technology of the time, but they screwed the pooch on social ideology.
Progressives are folks that know a little history, know that it hasn't worked in the past and think "well they just didn't do it the right way". It will always fail, just like democracy will fail eventually because the progression of human beings that can not seem to learn from there mistakes. People have not changed in thousands of years, their basic needs and desires have not changed. If you think we are more enlitened than folks thousands of years ago you would be wrong. We will keep repeating history over and over until we start learning from history.
 

hanimmal

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the "cleansing" of the communists has begun!
In United States history, the term Red Scare denotes two distinct periods of strong anti-communism: the First Red Scare, from 1917 to 1920, and the Second Red Scare, from 1947 to 1957. The Scares were characterized by the fear that communism would upset the capitalist social order in the United States; the First Red Scare was about worker revolution and political radicalism. The Second Red Scare was focused on (national and foreign) communists infiltrating the federal government.
Welcome back to the time machine, here we are again, Red Scare all over again.



Can you not take a clue? Communism failed, has never worked, will never work! How are you all still so petrified about this? There is zero chance that we become a communist country, and there has always been zero chance of it here in the united states.

.keep talkin bro, that way we can single you out :razz::razz:
And I am sure that this was a joke (two smiling faces gave it away), but numbnuts on this website have made threats to other people on this board before. So before you go too far with it, you should check that shit, nobody likes a internet tough guy. And it impresses nobody.
 
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PadawanBater

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so you agree with rohm? kul! we should all just shut up and go away....

and we cant do shit about it? oh contrare dummy. look to elections my friend. we are awake and we are taking the left down.

the "cleansing" of the communists has begun! and us conservatives damn sure dont want you guys to shut up....keep talkin bro, that way we can single you out :-P:-P


...dude, you make my head hurt. :wall:

See that bit where I said;

"Keep all your conservative biased bullshit to yourself. Not the article, but the way you blame everything from the rash on your ass you got at the beach to the time you stubbed your toe back in grade school on the fuckin' libs in the gov. You're nothing but a joke man, wake the fuck up."

Part of me thinks you just post this shit to be annoying, like your just trollin', but you do it so often that couldn't be the case...No troll would spend that much time on it, so idk.

"We are awake and we are taking the left down" - dude, I've spelled it out for you on more than one occasion, other people have as well; This left v. right battle you think is being waged is contrary to the motherfucking goal that should be at the top of the goddamn list of every single American; life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. As well as subsequent goals like peace, prosperity, democracy, FUCK MAN, you're an idiot, you think so small! It does not matter which side is in charge, nothing changes except the people. We have a system in place at the moment that does not require accountability, and is shrouded in secrecy by it's very design. Power shifts every decade, but no dramatic changes take place, except the wars that are waged and the corporations that profit off the death and destruction via no bid government contracts before, during, and even after the conflicts take place. You sit there totally oblivious and content on playing your little left wing/right wing, we're winning/you're losing game feeling like you're making some kind of difference. Trust me buddy, you're not. I'm not. None of us are, because none of us can. This system is too big and complex for any single human being to defeat. So once again, wake the fuck up jeff.

:wall:
 

jeff f

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...dude, you make my head hurt. :wall:

See that bit where I said;

"Keep all your conservative biased bullshit to yourself. Not the article, but the way you blame everything from the rash on your ass you got at the beach to the time you stubbed your toe back in grade school on the fuckin' libs in the gov. You're nothing but a joke man, wake the fuck up."

Part of me thinks you just post this shit to be annoying, like your just trollin', but you do it so often that couldn't be the case...No troll would spend that much time on it, so idk.

"We are awake and we are taking the left down" - dude, I've spelled it out for you on more than one occasion, other people have as well; Thisleft v. right battle you think is being waged is contrary to the motherfucking goal that should be at the top of the goddamn list of every single American; life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. As well as subsequent goals like peace, prosperity, democracy, FUCK MAN, you're an idiot, you think so small! It does not matter which side is in charge, nothing changes except the people. We have a system in place at the moment that does not require accountability, and is shrouded in secrecy by it's very design. Power shifts every decade, but no dramatic changes take place, except the wars that are waged and the corporations that profit off the death and destruction via no bid government contracts before, during, and even after the conflicts take place. You sit there totally oblivious and content on playing your little left wing/right wing, we're winning/you're losing game feeling like you're making some kind of difference. Trust me buddy, you're not. I'm not. None of us are, because none of us can. This system is too big and complex for any single human being to defeat. So once again, wake the fuck up jeff.

:wall:

well being as bamster and his thug cronies from chicago land are trying to steal everyones money and liberty, i would call my positions pretty much based on the right side of history. you seem to be so braindead as to think these numbnuts are here for your good. and when they steal your liberty (ability to provide for your family the way you see fit) you dont have a problem with it. well i do. and so do a hell of a lot of americans.

i can only imagine you during the revolutionary war....

"gee stella, these guys in these lovely red coats only want a room to stay in and most of our food in the cupboard. stop bitching and help them out". yes, those guys never really did make an impact on the outcome. get it?
 
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