Sick Plant(s) [PICS]

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so i've had this problem for a while now but havn't been able to take pics so here r pics of the sick leaves - this spread to every leaf on 1 plant and it now only has buds and no leaves. wtf is rong??? and its been 7 weeks of flowering so i guess its too late to fix nute problems cuz i stopped giving them nutes






 

babygro

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so i've had this problem for a while now but havn't been able to take pics so here r pics of the sick leaves - this spread to every leaf on 1 plant and it now only has buds and no leaves. wtf is rong??? and its been 7 weeks of flowering so i guess its too late to fix nute problems cuz i stopped giving them nutes
What have you been feeding them (NPK) how much and how often?
 

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i have good circulation and all my pots drain well but they r very small in comparison to the plants so that could be the problem.

i have been feeding them the reccomeded amount of nutes from fox farm every other watering exept now i have stopped altogether with nutes seeing as its the 7th week.
 

babygro

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sooooo is that it?
(-)_(-) It's hard to know for sure what the problem is with your plants. This is compounded by everyone elses 10 cents worth of what they think it might be.

Also, I keep going on at people about this but so few take any notice - if you want a diagnosis to your problem - you need to give full information. Because sometimes that's the only way you can track back and find out what might be causing the problem.

The problem here is, those leaves are not enough to diagnose the problem on their own - they look consistent with two things - Nutrient overdose and Nutrient deficiency - both can cause leaves to look like that. Figuring out which it is, depends entirely on what you've done to the plant.

Considering you've now said that you've fed them at 'recommended dose', knowing full well in the majority of instances full doses of nutrients are far too strong. 1/4 dose is probably close to the starting mark, not full doses.

The problem is very much with the nutrient companies - they're in this game to make money - not to grow you great plants. They don't care how little you use of your nutrients they want you to use as much as possible once you've bought the product, so they can sell you more - so they recommend high doses.

If you've been feeding them at full dose - then in my opinion, you've burnt the shit out of your plants by nutrient overdose.
 

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wordd! its fox farm so i didn't htink it wud be that bad but right now i'm not giviin them any more nutes so i guess its hud be aight - anyways they only gotta survive another week or two
 

babygro

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wordd! its fox farm so i didn't htink it wud be that bad but right now i'm not giviin them any more nutes so i guess its hud be aight - anyways they only gotta survive another week or two
It doesn't really matter who makes the nutrients, if you give the plant too much - it'll burn.

What happens is this -

Roots use osmosis to draw in the nutrient solutions. Osmosis is the process by which fluids pass through a semi-permeable membrane (in this example the root membrane) and mix with each other until the concentrations are the same both inside and outside of the root membrane. Sugars and salts are concentrated in the roots, so the EC inside the root membrane will nearly always be higher than the EC outside the root membrane.

What happens when the salts build up to toxic levels in the soil medium is that the process of osmosis continues, but it reverses. Instead of the plant drawing salts and ions into the semi permeable root membrane, it actually sucks them out instead due to the EC levels inside and outside the root membrane now being reversed. This is exactly why you need to be careful of what EC levels you feed at.

So because moisture and nutrients are now being sucked out of the plant, instead of in, the plant starts to show what we describe as 'burn' symptoms which are really deficiencies. That's why it's not always easy to tell the difference between a plant leaf that's burn' and one that's nutrient deficient.

What usually happens, is that the grower doesn't realise what's going on and 'assumes' the plant is deficient and simply gives it either the same dose of nutrients or increases it - making the situation even worse.

The only solution for a badly over-fertilised plant and pretty much the only time I'd recommend it - is to flush with plenty of plain water to remove all those excess salts and start again with a fresh slate. Even then in my opinion the better option is to simply flush once and then repot.
 
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