slow grow, leaves curling and pale

Hi Everyone, A friend gave me two plants of what is allegedly skunk, close to 3 weeks ago they were on a seedling stage and have not grown much in the time I've had them.

I have a 70 watt HPS lamp and a 23 watt CFL lamp over them working together at about 16 inches of distance, Also, they also get some, but very little sunlight during the day from a skylight.

They are on a window frame which stays open all day long so they have good ventilation, fresh air, and a very light breeze.

They had been over-watered so I changed the soil about a week ago to a mixture of regular soil, some pellet and cow manure (might be too rich?) since it allows the water to flow a little better

My Friend had the plants outdoors and they were fine besides the over-watering, but now they are getting pale and the bottom leaves are curling.

I still plan on getting a small fan for air circulation. I don't have a meter for the humidity and there is very little to no access where I live for these types of gadgets. But the humidity is high.

based on what I've read, I make sure not to over-water and avoid getting water on the leaves, I keep the lights on for 18 hrs a day and would even be willing to try to baby talk to them if that helps

Please please please tell me what I'm doing wrong and how I can fix it

By "changed the soil" did that mean you transplanted it? If so either the plant is still shocked probably from the transplant. If the plant continues to shows signs of curling and dead leaves then the roots may have been damaged.(I'm not sure about the cow manure) Just make sure you don't add any nutrients for at least another couple weeks. All that you can do now is just hope for the best

Manure is very acidic. You should check the Ph of your soil. Your two biggest problems seem to be light and soil. First off, floros usually can't support healthy growth more than a couple inches away from the bulb. Secondly, I'm sorry to say that the soil you are using is, in a word, bad. At the size they are, we would have just transplanted from cups of starter soil into 3-liter bottles. The soil we'd use would be 2 parts Edna's Best potting soil, 1 part Worm Castings and 1 part Perlite. We'll add a little lime, High-P Guano and some Kelp Meal to the mix as well. If you can, try to get at least the first three major soil components.

They need a grow formula that is rich in Nitrogen. A 10-5-5 or something is an example of a somewhat ideal forumla. If you spend the extra $ to buy a concentrated formula from your local hydro shop or online, you will find that the extra money will get you a properly mixed ratio that is ideal and created more for cannabis use.

And I know you said it was overwatered, but it looks the transplant took care of that and I'd get the soil a bit more moist with that feed so that it is not so droopy

How are you temps?

That's pretty cool they sell 70W HPS, didn't know they got that low. How much did you pay & where'd you get it? I could prob find use for a small HPS like that. I think that'd be great for cloning.

Hold on everybody.... lol.... wow...

Did ya look at the pictures? Yes the soil looks shitty, no pun intended, but look at the plants. They were JUST transplanted, so I'd expect to see a little droop, and the only leaves curling and dying are the starter set.

Your plants are fine dude. Don't over water. They look fine and they'll make it...

WOW!!!! That's a lot of responses. Thanks a lot everyone!!! you're all awesome.

Yes, I transplanted them. I live in a farm, so I´ve worked with other plants before, but never with cannabis which is a lot more delicate as i´ve learned. Cow manure has worked great for other plants before

Your plants simply need some window light from the sun and proper watering. Cool white flouresent works best on greening. They look like skunk.

I live up in the mountains in Costa Rica, thats part of why I'm planting, getting down from up here to buy is a hassle... The average temperature here is averages between 59 and 86 °F, we´re currently on the rainy season so the temperature should be around the 60s and it helps with the humidity. I transplanted them last Sunday, I don't know if they should start looking up already or if it's natural.

I would do an outdoor grow, but people walk a lot up here and we usually just walk across the farms instead of using the roads... its a lot faster so I don't want anyone to see them.

I'll definitely look for the option of buying the advised supplements, we usually make our own supplements and compost. which I'm sure is not as good.

I got the lamp from a grower friend for $30 it will probably be $15 for you since you have to pay almost 100% import taxes on practically everything, but I'm not sure where he bought them. I looked online and there are only light-bulbs, but not the full lamp.

I appreciate all the help. Lots of love for everyone from the tropical heaven.

looks like they are sitting in mud

manure will somtimes burn the roots of a fresh transplant depending on how much you used, manure, like mulch creates heat. It's decomposing and roots dont like heat. be carefull how much you use when mixing and dont plant in manure untill the manure is compleatly composted (broken down) never use fresh manure it carries bugs and pests you dont want. hope this helps. your soil looks like mud. you need some perlite or vermiculite. your gonna starve the roots of oxygen, the soil should clump when squeezed but fall apart when pinched with fingers. lay off the water and get good drainage out the bottom of your pots. if i was you i would mix some new soil and replant again.

I would flush the crap out of the soil when it does dry out and hope for the best. Next time get a good organic mix (fox farm,roots organic,promix) for growing mary jane.
Good luck

NewbGrower^.^ said:

I would flush the crap out of the soil when it does dry out and hope for the best. Next time get a good organic mix (fox farm,roots organic,promix) for growing mary jane.
Good luck

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Did you see where he lives? LOL.... I'm sure he has some good soil.

Serapis said:

Did you see where he lives? LOL.... I'm sure he has some good soil.

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It's the fact he does not know what is in his soil and the added manure maybe too much....

NewbGrower^.^ said:

It's the fact he does not know what is in his soil and the added manure maybe too much....

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That's what I think as well. I just transplanted them about 5 days ago and used manure because the water drains a lot better but it might be too rich.

So following a previous advise, I think I'll give it a few more days to see if it recovers.

I'll try with the peralite as well for drainage.

Not knowing what the soil here is composed of is what worries me, I can{t tell if it's too alkaline, if it has the right nutrients, etc, so I think I'll look for a prepared mix that has what the plants need.

I would get one of these soils if I were you and I could basically guarantee success: Fox farm (ocean forest or happy frog), roots organic soil mix(not coco type), or some promix. They are all great, ready to use soils which mary jane loves. Its good to know everything a plant is taking in then to have soil that has questionable contents which could harm your babies. Wish you luck!

Shock. Can u foliar feed? Needs some 10-5-5(on foilage) like last guy said. Wait till pot get almost dry before a light (plain)watering. Half hour later. Give food (450ppm or so).Def. needs food.

All Roots Organics Soil is Coco based.



I would get one of these soils if I were you and I could basically guarantee success: Fox farm (ocean forest or happy frog), roots organic soil mix(not coco type), or some promix. They are all great, ready to use soils which mary jane loves. Its good to know everything a plant is taking in then to have soil that has questionable contents which could harm your babies. Wish you luck!

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All Roots Organics Soil is Coco based.



I would get one of these soils if I were you and I could basically guarantee success: Fox farm (ocean forest or happy frog), roots organic soil mix(not coco type), or some promix. They are all great, ready to use soils which mary jane loves. Its good to know everything a plant is taking in then to have soil that has questionable contents which could harm your babies. Wish you luck!

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There is 1 that has way less coco than the other. I have purchased it