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7cotton7

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Just curious what are some methods people use to figure out if someone is an undercover agent or not and what info you have to back this up on if it really works.

I have heard of things like if they smoke with you they are not or if you ask them they have to tell you. there is no real proof behind this that i have found but does anyone know things that are usefull?
 

110100100

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I can tell you for a fact that they do not have to tell you they are a cop if you ask them. That's a flat out lie. Cops are allowed to lie to you and they will anytime they think it's in their best interest to do so. That's one of the reasons you never want to talk to a cop without a lawyer...ever. They will use lies to coerce you into doing or saying what they want.

As far as the smoking thing I couldn't answer that for sure but I would not rely on it as a test. I have a friend who's been a cop for 20 some years and he told me they all smoke pot as a part of their training so they know both the effects and what someone looks like when they are high. If a cops cover was that he is a user of a certain drug turning down a hit of whatever drug it is could get him killed in some circles.

My rule is don't deal with people you haven't known personally for many MANY years. I also wouldn't take anyone's word vouching for someone else unless they assure me they have known this person for many years as well...thing with that though is if I've known you for years chances are I would have met this third party somewhere along the line...
 

7cotton7

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so your saying you have a group of friends and never add a new friend into it? sounds like a sad lonely life
 

Megax29

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well i just saw this is half baked but they try and get you to say marjiwana so they havr proof or sometin like that
 

7cotton7

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well i just saw this is half baked but they try and get you to say marjiwana so they havr proof or sometin like that
nah thats not realistic. they also smoked a joint in the back of a van with the cops. they just have to catch u with bud on u. unless there goin for a dealer then they need an exchange or money and weed or scales and baggies or somethin like that.
 

fdd2blk

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I can tell you for a fact that they do not have to tell you they are a cop if you ask them. That's a flat out lie. Cops are allowed to lie to you and they will anytime they think it's in their best interest to do so. That's one of the reasons you never want to talk to a cop without a lawyer...ever. They will use lies to coerce you into doing or saying what they want.

As far as the smoking thing I couldn't answer that for sure but I would not rely on it as a test. I have a friend who's been a cop for 20 some years and he told me they all smoke pot as a part of their training so they know both the effects and what someone looks like when they are high. If a cops cover was that he is a user of a certain drug turning down a hit of whatever drug it is could get him killed in some circles.

My rule is don't deal with people you haven't known personally for many MANY years. I also wouldn't take anyone's word vouching for someone else unless they assure me they have known this person for many years as well...thing with that though is if I've known you for years chances are I would have met this third party somewhere along the line...


either you or your "cop friend" are full of shit. :roll:
 

Smiley D

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This will sound silly but..


I will have nothing to do with 25-40 year old males with mustaches.

Friends of friends, it gets weird. I just tell my friend, here, you go take care of him.


I also stay away from mustachioed females of any age.


Cops don't smoke for training, but they do smoke. I know this because the pigs were all to happy to tell me how excited they were to smoke "my crazy looking shit" after shift, as I'm being cuffed and patted.

Those bastards know when they have to drop.
 

110100100

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either you or your "cop friend" are full of shit. :roll:
So you're a cop and know for a fact this is false?

Since you don't know me OR my friends and seem to have nothing constructive to add to any thread I've seen you post in how about you fuck off fdd.
 

SmokeyMcSmokester

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So you're a cop and know for a fact this is false?

Since you don't know me OR my friends and seem to have nothing constructive to add to any thread I've seen you post in how about you fuck off fdd.
whoa buddy...cops dont smoke as part of training..that is absurd..

you gotta be like 17 or something to believe something stupid like that..
 

fdd2blk

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So you're a cop and know for a fact this is false?

Since you don't know me OR my friends and seem to have nothing constructive to add to any thread I've seen you post in how about you fuck off fdd.

actually i know a lot of cops and i have spoken with numerous lawyers. i attended law classes at Oaksterdam U and have been highly involved in the "scene" for 20 years. you on the other hand are just spewing nonsense.

now enjoy your infraction. :fire:
 

110100100

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actually i know a lot of cops and i have spoken with numerous lawyers. i attended law classes at Oaksterdam U and have been highly involved in the "scene" for 20 years. you on the other hand are just spewing nonsense.

now enjoy your infraction. :fire:
fdd2blk said:
Dear 110100100,

You have received an infraction at Marijuana Growing.

Reason: Insulted Other Member(s)
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personal attacks are not allowed. you were spreading nonsense. i corrected you. the "fuck off" is rude and childish. try to be a little more "articulate" thank you. this is just a yellow flag warning. don't blow it up any further. thanks. :bigjoint:
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I was repeating what was told to me by a good friend who is a police officer.
Police lie all the time so what makes you think it's not in their best interest to lie to you about this?

I have PERSONALLY smoked with a detective in the past who was eventually busted for pinching coke off people he was busting. I've also had friends and one relative that were caught with say an ounce only to have a 1/4 ounce show up on the charges so please don't tell me it does not happen. If you think otherwise you are naive.

Personally I see no reason for my friend to lie. If you have proof that his statement is false give it otherwise you're just as likely to be spreading nonsense.

Now as far as your infraction, nice double standard fdd. You don't think calling me and or my friend "full of shit" was rude and childish?

You didn't correct me, you offered no proof that what I said is false. No just like every other post you've made in reply to something I've said, you've added nothing constructive and the posts have been at best provoking and at worst as in this case insulting.

Enjoy your power trip.
 

Smiley D

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My buddy tried to hook me up with some guy that looked just like that, sans aviators.

I had to make up some weird excuse and leave.
 

7cotton7

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I was repeating what was told to me by a good friend who is a police officer.
Police lie all the time so what makes you think it's not in their best interest to lie to you about this?

I have PERSONALLY smoked with a detective in the past who was eventually busted for pinching coke off people he was busting. I've also had friends and one relative that were caught with say an ounce only to have a 1/4 ounce show up on the charges so please don't tell me it does not happen. If you think otherwise you are naive.

Personally I see no reason for my friend to lie. If you have proof that his statement is false give it otherwise you're just as likely to be spreading nonsense.

Now as far as your infraction, nice double standard fdd. You don't think calling me and or my friend "full of shit" was rude and childish?

You didn't correct me, you offered no proof that what I said is false. No just like every other post you've made in reply to something I've said, you've added nothing constructive and the posts have been at best provoking and at worst as in this case insulting.

Enjoy your power trip.


nice way to change your story once ur flagged on it. you first say that ALL cops smoke as a part of their training or whatever then say when ppl get busted there are bits missing out of bags cuz of the dirty cops. just think how stupid that sounds for a sec. if they actualy had to smoke weed for training to see how it affects people then they would have to try meth and coke and crack and crap like that. there not only busting ppl for weed.

and sorry but im with fdd on this one u deserve that infraction telling an official on the site to fuck off. not a good idea anywhere you go. he was calling the bull crap card on you because of the stupidity coming out of ur mouth and you tell him to fuck off. that aint right. just be glad you havnt been kicked off the site.

no lets just all be nice here
 

fdd2blk

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I was repeating what was told to me by a good friend who is a police officer.
Police lie all the time so what makes you think it's not in their best interest to lie to you about this?

I have PERSONALLY smoked with a detective in the past who was eventually busted for pinching coke off people he was busting. I've also had friends and one relative that were caught with say an ounce only to have a 1/4 ounce show up on the charges so please don't tell me it does not happen. If you think otherwise you are naive.

Personally I see no reason for my friend to lie. If you have proof that his statement is false give it otherwise you're just as likely to be spreading nonsense.

Now as far as your infraction, nice double standard fdd. You don't think calling me and or my friend "full of shit" was rude and childish?

You didn't correct me, you offered no proof that what I said is false. No just like every other post you've made in reply to something I've said, you've added nothing constructive and the posts have been at best provoking and at worst as in this case insulting.

Enjoy your power trip.

cops do NOT smoke pot so they can tell what pot smokers look like. :roll:

i will reverse your infraction just so i can call you an ass for even thinking anyone would actually believe that.

i never said cops don't smoke. i said you are "full of shit" if you are trying to say "it's part of training".




i removed your infraction. :bigjoint:
 

110100100

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nice way to change your story once ur flagged on it. you first say that ALL cops smoke as a part of their training or whatever then say when ppl get busted there are bits missing out of bags cuz of the dirty cops. just think how stupid that sounds for a sec. if they actualy had to smoke weed for training to see how it affects people then they would have to try meth and coke and crack and crap like that. there not only busting ppl for weed.

and sorry but im with fdd on this one u deserve that infraction telling an official on the site to fuck off. not a good idea anywhere you go. he was calling the bull crap card on you because of the stupidity coming out of ur mouth and you tell him to fuck off. that aint right. just be glad you havnt been kicked off the site.

no lets just all be nice here
I didn't change my story. I added personal experiences that I KNOW TO BE FACT that add credence to the possibility that cops may be using drugs.

Take a look around man, I don't see fdd jumping into threads like the money washing thread telling all the idiots that are talking about spending cash and buying whatever is the way to go that they are full of shit. The guys with the "my friend spent X amount of cash on a car and he didn't get busted..." Yet that's a surefire way to get busted.

Or how about some of the other threads in legal with people giving crazy "all you gotta do is..." advice when they are not even in the same state and obviously have NO CLUE what they are talking about.

I stand behind what I said. Fact is I have no idea if what he told me is true or not but I know what I was told and who said it to me. You don't want to believe it that's fine. Fdd could have, taking his own advice on being more articulate and not insulting another member, said I think that's nonsense. That would have been fine but he didn't. He insulted me AND insinuated that I was making the friend up. What do possible motive would I have to make that shit up? How do I benefit from making that statement?

Now ask yourself this, even if what I was told IS false, who is it hurting? Did I put anyone who might believe it at risk? Not one single person, yet others on this board post dangerous misinformation and
and absolute BULLSHIT that could get people busted but who does fdd decide he wants to insult? Me...someone who's been here all of about 10 minutes and I think if you take a look at some of my posts you'd see that I've made it quite clear in that 10 minutes that I'm passionate about getting pot legalized, passionate about trying to pass on accurate information or advice that is going to keep people safe.

I'm pissed, I don't deserve to be treated like this. Not that it matters to me either way but I had no idea fdd was a mod. Nowhere does it say mod in his posts. But knowing that now just pisses me off more. If he wants respect then he should take his own advice and show some.
 
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