The Curse of the Withholding Tax

ViRedd

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The Curse of the Withholding Tax

By Laurence Vance


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Did you have to write out a check to the IRS for $5,581 this past April 15? If you had to do such a thing next year, would you think of it as your civic duty or would you consider it a crime that only the government could get away with?
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[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]A Typical Taxpayer[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]This figure of $5,581 is not an arbitrary one. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, real median household income was $43,318 for 2002 and 2003. A taxpayer with an income of that amount who was single with no children would, after his standard deduction of $4,850 and his personal exemption of $3,100, owe $5,581 in federal income tax for tax year 2004. If this same taxpayer was married and his spouse did not work, he would be entitled to an extra personal exemption, thus lowering his tax liability to $3,399—still a huge sum for most Americans to come up with.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]If this same couple were to have a child, they would gain not only another personal exemption, but also a $1,000 child tax credit. However, their tax liability would still be $1,934—an amount that the typical American does not have in his checking account. The addition of another child would lower this couple's tax liability down to $469.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The Withholding Tax[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]But regardless of the amount of federal income tax that one ultimately pays, the fact that the U.S. government seizes the wealth of its citizens slowly over the course of the year via the withholding tax means that the typical taxpayer is comfortable in each of the above scenarios because he doesn't actually have to write out a check to the government on April 15 of each year.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The withholding tax makes it possible for the government to silently steal the wealth from its citizens with little or no outrage about the loss. And even in the case where the citizen receives a refund of all the taxes he has paid in, the withholding tax still serves two evil purposes. First, getting a refund of all the taxes one pays in amounts to an interest-free loan to the government. The government gets money to continue its spending orgy, and the citizen loses the ability to receive a return on money that could be invested. And second, getting a tax refund fosters the notion that the government is benevolent. Never mind that the money is yours. If the government sends you a check in the mail then the government can't be all that bad.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]If the $5,581 were gradually taken out of one's paycheck over the course of the year and no money was owed on April 15, the pain of the theft would be greatly diminished, but for two entirely different reasons. Obviously, it is less painful to have $107.33 taken out of one's check every week for fifty-two weeks than writing a check to the government for that amount every week or a check for the whole amount once a year. The second reason the pain of the $5,581 loss would not readily be felt is that very few people pay any attention to the amount of taxes that are withheld from their pay. They are concerned only with their take-home pay. This is unfortunate because if the people who pay taxes actually realized how much the government was taking from them they would be outraged.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The Origin of Tax Withholding[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]So where did the withholding tax come from? It was not part of the original income tax that resulted from the sixteenth amendment in 1913. Very few people paid any taxes back then anyway. The income tax did not directly affect the average American until World War II.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]On the eve of the war, few Americans paid income taxes. Those that owed taxes paid them in one lump sum on March 15 (later changed to April 15). To pay for the war, the Revenue Act of 1942 lowered exemptions and raised income tax rates. But it also did something even more insidious—it instituted a 5 percent "Victory Tax" on all wages above an exemption of $624. The tax was to be collected by the employer and deducted from the employee's paycheck—just like the Social Security tax that began in 1935.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The Current Tax Payment Act of 1943 then revolutionized the income tax by making withholding taxes universal. The withholding tax was part of the new tax plan offered by Beardsley Ruml (1894–1960), the chairman of the New York Federal Reserve Bank and treasurer of R.H. Macy and Co. By 1945, about three-fourths of Americans were paying federal income taxes. And although the withholding tax was sold as a wartime emergency, like most expansions of government instituted during wartime, it has been a way of life for most Americans ever since.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The Curse of the Withholding Tax[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The income tax allows the government to confiscate the wealth of its citizens. The curse of the withholding tax is that it allows the government to commit this crime systematically, effortlessly, painlessly, and benevolently.[/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Surprisingly, it was a free market economist who helped the federal government implement the withholding tax in the first place. As was pointed out by the Austrian economist, Murray Rothbard (1926–1995), in his 1971 article "Milton Friedman unraveled":[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]One of Friedman's most disastrous deeds was the important role he proudly played, during World War II in the Treasury Department, in foisting upon the suffering American public the system of the withholding tax. Before World War II, when income tax rates were far lower than now, there was no withholding system; everyone paid his annual bill in one lump sum, on March 15. It is obvious that under this system, the Internal Revenue Service could never hope to extract the entire annual sum, at current confiscatory rates, from the mass of the working population. The whole ghastly system would have happily broken down long before this. Only the Friedmanite withholding tax has permitted the government to use every employer as an unpaid tax collector, extracting the tax quietly and silently from each paycheck. In many ways, we have Milton Friedman to thank for the present monster Leviathan State in America.[/FONT]​


[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Conclusion[/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Ideally, the elimination of the withholding tax would force the American people to see exactly how much of their income is being confiscated by the government to fund its trillion-dollar budgets. This would, of course, have to be followed by sufficient outrage on behalf of the American people to reduce those budgets. The elimination of the withholding tax is also sometimes seen as freeing businesses from being tax collectors. But this would only be true if businesses also ceased to collect Social Security tax for the government.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]But on a more practical note, there are two reasons why even if the withholding tax were eliminated it might not result in sufficient enough outrage at the level of government wealth confiscation and spending. First, the majority of the population presently pays little or no income tax. It is of no consequence to them if the "rich" have money withheld from their paychecks or not. And second, many out of this majority are not only not taxpayers, they are taxeaters who benefit from the redistribution of the wealth of those who actually pay taxes. The continued expansion by the Republicans in Congress of refundable tax credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit and the Additional Child Tax Credit will ensure that the number of taxeaters will increase.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]There is also one significant practical consideration that cannot be ignored. The chance that Congress would ever eliminate that which provides the government with a continual flow of revenue is zero. There is, therefore, nothing short of dramatically rolling back income tax rates (good) or eliminating the income tax altogether (better) that will even begin to tame the federal leviathan.[/FONT]
 

Wavels

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Good stuff!
Even Milton wasn't perfect!!!lol....lol
Leviathan is a great word, and...it is dead on accurate...hahaha!
 

medicineman

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Good stuff!
Even Milton wasn't perfect!!!lol....lol
Leviathan is a great word, and...it is dead on accurate...hahaha!
Here's an Idea, move to a country that has no taxes! Another Idea, Incorporate, they seem to be able to pay no taxes! Another, set up a shell company on foriegn soil like Haliburton so you can avoid the tax structure! Get innovative, I'm sure if you used your Brains you could figure out a way to avoid paying those cumbersom taxes, let the peons pay for all the infrastructure and wars, the American way!
 

ViRedd

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The military is one of the few legitimate functions of the federal government. Infrastructure should be left up to the states, paid for by state gas taxes. The interstate highways can be paid through federal excise taxes paid at the gas pump.

Vi
 

Wavels

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med,
I am not aware of anyone saying anything about not paying ANY taxes.
You seem to consistently depict or interpret the point of the opposing opinion to an extreme I find highly amusing!
You are one of the most entertaining figures I've seen on any cannabis site!
This forum would be much less colorful without your posts!

Seriously, you seem to misconstrue to an unrealistic degree.I must admit I find it somewhat flummoxing!
:joint::mrgreen:
 

ViRedd

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"You are one of the most entertaining figures I've seen on any cannabis site!"

Seriously, you seem to misconstrue to an unrealistic degree.I must admit I find it somewhat flummoxing!

My thoughts exactly, Wavels ... except I'm not flummoxed ... I'm Klempth! *lol*

Vi






 

medicineman

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The goverment of the USA is the biggest terorists in the world!!!!
Finally someone whom agrees with me< can I get an Amen! The US governments foriegn policy is orchestrated by the largest corporations. Corporations need cheap resources and cheap labor to maximize profits. When the US government does any move in foriegn policy, it is dictated by the wealthy plutocrats who really control the govt., and you thought it was run by the people. If we give some tax money to a foriegn government, It's just a payoff to let the corporations come in and rape the resources and work force. In this respect I'll agree with some here whom think the tax system un fair. When the tax system benefits the already rich corporations, It is literally taxation without representation!
 

ViRedd

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"The goverment of the USA is the biggest terorists in the world!!!!"

OK, so now you're on record as agreeing with the above post, Med. Quesiton: Why would you support turning over our entire mecical system, representing 7% of our GNP, to a terrorist organization?

Vi
 

medicineman

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"The goverment of the USA is the biggest terorists in the world!!!!"

OK, so now you're on record as agreeing with the above post, Med. Quesiton: Why would you support turning over our entire mecical system, representing 7% of our GNP, to a terrorist organization?

Vi
When the choice is them or private greedy enterprize, like HMOs and Medical Insurance ripoffs, I'll take the govt. terrorists! Now provide me with a better plan that would actually benefit all the "citizens", even the poor ones. Notice I said citizens! and supply the method the working uninsured poor are going to get besides the proverbial shaft!
 

ViRedd

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Now provide me with a better plan that would actually benefit all the "citizens"

I believe that Wavels and I have already done that. Here it is again: Get government out of health care all together and let the competition of the free market work it's invisible hand.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Now provide me with a better plan that would actually benefit all the "citizens"

I believe that Wavels and I have already done that. Here it is again: Get government out of health care all together and let the competition of the free market work it's invisible hand.

Vi
I can't see this helping the poor, or the middle class families that can't afford the rising cost as it is. What you are saying is let the market float and the costs will come down. I doubt that they'd come down any lower than what I pay now, and I've just been thrown out of my long time Dr.s care by him for greed purposes. He wants 3,000 a year per patient for the priveledge of having him for your Dr. plus all the insurance he can collect. He's shooting for a thousand patients, Thats 3,000,000 a year pure profit as the insurance would more than pay for his overhead> Privatization of any public service demeans it by greed! All you have to do is look at history. greed has destroyed every service provided by the community when privatized!
 

ViRedd

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"greed has destroyed every service provided by the community when privatized!"

As The Gipper would say ... "There you go again!"

Please site some examples.

Vi
 

medicineman

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"greed has destroyed every service provided by the community when privatized!"

As The Gipper would say ... "There you go again!"

Please site some examples.

Vi
I believe this to be a very subjective subject. The Greedy would certainly not recognize greed, they would call it libertarianism!
 

ViRedd

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On the contrary, Med. A Libertarian would never take that which he/she has not earned. A Libertarian recognizes the needs of others and insists upon charity being private. A Libertarian recognizes theft when he/she sees it and does what's necessary to prevent the theft. A robber is a robber weither holding his own gun, or using the gun of government to aquire ill-gotten gains.

Vi
 

medicineman

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On the contrary, Med. A Libertarian would never take that which he/she has not earned. A Libertarian recognizes the needs of others and insists upon charity being private. A Libertarian recognizes theft when he/she sees it and does what's necessary to prevent the theft. A robber is a robber weither holding his own gun, or using the gun of government to aquire ill-gotten gains.

Vi
So taking a million dollar++++++++++ Salary while fighting to maintain minimum wages for your workers is not taking that which he has not earned,, he recognizes theft when he sees it and it is him. the gun he holds is the workers jobs and he holds it to their heads, and as far as charity, he probably doesn't know the meaning of the word, and yet he calls himself a libertarian! I believe ther are a fair share of those assholes out there. You forget I have a 2 year degree in business mg.(no big deal I realize, but it allowed me to interact with them) I dealt with middle managers, (Asshole Kissasses) on their way up for 10 years. All they wanted to do was crack the whip on subordinates and kiss ass on superiors, a disgusting scenario, I finally bailed as I couldn't stomach that crap, so it's no wonder when they get to the top they crap on everyone. The whole management thing is revolting. I realize that someone must make company decisions, just most times it's the real dipshits that end up there!
 

medicineman

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Med ...

Have you ever had your attitude checked out by a professional?

Vi
Jesus, I think you are in trouble, call someone quick before you shoot your self. I post the absolute truth and you call me psychotic. I really think you ought to take a long look in the mirror, and if you are exactly like the persons I post about, don't bother to call anyone, just go ahead and shoot yourself in the head
 

ViRedd

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So taking a million dollar++++++++++ Salary while fighting to maintain minimum wages for your workers is not taking that which he has not earned,, he recognizes theft when he sees it and it is him. the gun he holds is the workers jobs and he holds it to their heads, and as far as charity, he probably doesn't know the meaning of the word, and yet he calls himself a libertarian! I believe ther are a fair share of those assholes out there. You forget I have a 2 year degree in business mg.(no big deal I realize, but it allowed me to interact with them) I dealt with middle managers, (Asshole Kissasses) on their way up for 10 years. All they wanted to do was crack the whip on subordinates and kiss ass on superiors, a disgusting scenario, I finally bailed as I couldn't stomach that crap, so it's no wonder when they get to the top they crap on everyone. The whole management thing is revolting. I realize that someone must make company decisions, just most times it's the real dipshits that end up there![/quote]

Seriously, Med ... you need to get a grip on your Stinkin' Thinkin'. First of all, you've mistaken libertarianism with some kind of robber baron syndrome. And quite honestly, if you were my employee and had the attitude displayed in the above post, you wouldn't be my employee for very long.

Vi
 
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