The free market at work!

medicineman

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If you want to see what a free market policy looks like to construction workers, just visit Dubai or as Vi would call it, paradise!
No Free Trade Pacts Without Reform

(New York, March 30, 2006) – The government of the United Arab Emirates should take immediate steps to end the abusive labor practices that have helped spark recent unrest by migrant workers in Dubai, Human Rights Watch said today.
One of the world’s largest construction booms is feeding off of workers in Dubai, but they’re treated as less than human. It’s no surprise that some workers have started rioting in protest. What’s surprising is that the government of the UAE is doing nothing to solve the problem.
BTW, the average wage of these workers is 75 cents an Dubai: Migrant Workers at Risk
Press Release, September 19, 2003
More Information on Human Rights in the United Arab Emirates

During the past year, migrant workers have increasingly resorted to public protests and strikes in an attempt to improve working conditions. UAE government figures show that between May and December 2005, at least eight major strikes took place. The latest, in Dubai last week, quickly spread from construction workers who rioted at one skyscraper to others working on a new airport terminal.

“One of the world’s largest construction booms is feeding off of workers in Dubai, but they’re treated as less than human,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch. “It’s no surprise that some workers have started rioting in protest. What’s surprising is that the government of the UAE is doing nothing to solve the problem.”

Though the skyscraper strike was settled, the UAE government has been unwilling to make a real commitment to stop systematic abuses by employers, including the extended non-payment of wages, the denial of proper medical care, and the squalid conditions in which most migrant workers live.

Migrant workers comprise nearly 90 percent of the workforce in the private sector in the UAE. They are denied basic rights such as freedom of association and the right to collective bargaining.

Human Rights Watch urged the UAE government to drastically expand its staff overseeing migrant labor treatment. According to government sources, the ministry of labor employs only 80 inspectors to oversee the activities of nearly 200,000 businesses that sponsor and employ migrant workers.

The UAE government should also reform its labor laws to conform to international standards set by the International Labor Organization, and become a party to the International Convention on the Protection of the Rights of All Migrant Workers and Members of Their Families, Human Rights Watch said.

The UAE is not a party to key international human rights treaties such as the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

Employers routinely deny construction workers their wages. Officials with the UAE Permanent Committee for Labor and Immigration told Human Rights Watch that last year alone, nearly 20,000 workers filed complaints with the government about the non-payment of wages and labor camp conditions.

Most construction workers secure work in the UAE by taking loans from recruiting agencies in their home country. A typical construction worker uses a large portion of his wages towards repayment of such loans on a monthly basis, and without wages he falls further into debt. The result is virtual debt bondage.

Death and injury at the workplace are also on the rise. Independent research published in local media found that as many as 880 deaths occurred at construction sites in 2004. These numbers were compiled by surveying embassies of countries that have large number of workers in the UAE. Government figures contrast sharply with these findings, stating that the total number of deaths in 2004 was only 34.

“The government is turning a blind eye to a huge problem,” said Whitson. “If it doesn’t start taking drastic new steps to improve conditions, further unrest seems inevitable.”

The governments of the United States, the European Union, and Australia are currently negotiating free trade agreements with the UAE. Human Rights Watch called on these governments to require improvement of UAE’s labor practices and legal standards before signing such agreements. Human Rights Watch also urged these governments to include in any free trade agreements reached with the UAE strong, enforceable workers’ rights provisions that require parties’ labor laws to meet international standards, and the effective enforcement of those laws.

Human Rights Watch recently conducted a fact-finding mission on the conditions of migrant workers in the UAE and will be releasing its full findings in the next few months.
 

Wavels

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[FONT=&quot]What possible relationship does this have to free markets?
It looks like working conditions truly suck over there....yup; it’s because of free markets....huh?
Evil free markets made this happen ...tooth fairy anyone?
Fallacious perception, and connection and conclusion…. IMO[/FONT]
 

AllMeatNoPotato

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I watched a special last night on 20/20 about this place. the whole time I was watching it while they aere portraying how bad this prince treats the workers, I was thinking "why not show the corruption here in our country other than other parts in the world?" All of a sudden it hit me; "emperor" bush would not allow americans to see what is going on in their own back yard. sometimes I feel like we are prisoners of our own democracy.
 

medicineman

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[FONT=&quot]What possible relationship does this have to free markets? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It looks like working conditions truly suck over there....yup; it’s because of free markets....huh?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Evil free markets made this happen ...tooth fairy anyone?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Fallacious perception, and connection and conclusion…. IMO[/FONT]
You must be blind to reality, this is the greed market at it's pinnacle.. the labor force has no say in the wage factor and the owners are free to pay what they want without any governence, no control over working conditions Free as a bird to rape and pillage all workers. I'm sure that you'd like to see workers from Malasia or Sri Lanka come here and work for you for 75 cents an hour with no benefits, Free market all the way. show me how this is not the free market in full bloom!
 

Wavels

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That's just silly, why would I want to see my fellow humans enslaved?
That is not a very nice thing to say!
Oh well, you are certainly entitled, but do you truly believe I wish to see humanity impoverished?
 

medicineman

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That's just silly, why would I want to see my fellow humans enslaved?
That is not a very nice thing to say!
Oh well, you are certainly entitled, but do you truly believe I wish to see humanity impoverished?
I'm sorry if you take this personally, I was talking about your free market Ideas. This is exactly what the free market would be according to all the posts I've seen here. Let the wealthy make the rules and reap the benefits, isn't that what it's really about? they don't want any interferance in their business by having rules, taxes or restrictions on the way they deal with the labor force. All free market enthusiasts despise even the mention of a union, doesn't that translate to 75 cents an hour for labor if they could get away with it? I believe if you let the wealthy set the labor markets, all the workers would take it up the old culo. Just look at what is already happening here in the US. The corporations are either subletting out to non-union contractors to (compete) [translation: more profit] or hiring illegals, or shipping the jobs overseas. I don't see a lot of compassion for the American worker here. It took a hundred years of struggle to make a middle class and the wealthy are destroying it daily, I'd doubt if we have a middle class ten years from now!
 

Wavels

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I don't take much personally these days, but I appreciate your thought.

I think that we both have totally different world views which lead us to perceive contrasting end results of the effects of our political philosophy.
I sincerely believe a shift to freer markets would truly benefit the majority of mankind.
A move towards socialism is exactly the wrong solution to the world's ills.

Socialism/Communism doesn't have that good of a track record, and, IMO, is inimical to human nature.

:blsmoke:
 

medicineman

New Member
I don't take much personally these days, but I appreciate your thought.

I think that we both have totally different world views which lead us to perceive contrasting end results of the effects of our political philosophy.
I sincerely believe a shift to freer markets would truly benefit the majority of mankind.
A move towards socialism is exactly the wrong solution to the world's ills.

Socialism/Communism doesn't have that good of a track record, and, IMO, is inimical to human nature.

:blsmoke:
Of course I have to agree that the types of socialism that has been foisted upon the peoples of the world has been brutal and dictatorial. Now before I continue, let me make clear I'm not for any dictatorial socialism. I believe in a modified version of capitalism where the common man has a chance to participate in profitability. I would ban all mega corporations. In fact the Corporate venue is set up to render the owners not responsible by making the corporation an entity as a person unto itself. I would eliminate all corporations. If you want a company, then be responsible. You could still sell shares in your company and make the officers of the company personally responsible for wrong doings. I don't have the perfect plan, but I believe my tenet would be better than what we have now which is by all descriptions, a plutocracy. I think your plan is to let the corporations rule, the "free" market float. The corporation as it stands now is alive for one reason only, to make money for the stockholders and provide huge un-reasonable salarys to corporate officers. Every responsibility that should be carried by the corporation is being foisted off on the taxpayer, Pension bailouts, toxic waste bailouts, insurance bailouts, the list is tooo long to populate here!
 
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