Theoretical marijuana transfer, question??? Any lawyers in the house?

Dr. Bob said:

Dan Grow, the attorney in Kalamazoo, was speaking at a club function I attended and addressed this 'donation' issue.

His advice was this.

If you walk in to a store with money, and walk out with less money and marijuana, you bought marijuana. Especially if the marked undercover money was found in the pockets of the storekeeper. Call it a sale, a donation, or a gift, money changed hands for marijuana and it is a sale in the eyes of the law.

The variation of this is buying a mason jar for more than the cost of an empty mason jar. Especially if the price of the mason jar varied with the amount of marijuana it contained.

The next variation is having a patient that is a caregiver as well. You can transfer marijuana to YOUR patient for THEIR personal use as medicine. The problem arises when you transfer to your patient who in turn transfers it to THEIR patient (the third patient). While you can say the transfer on the part of your patient to their patient is 'medical use' and therefore your are assisting your patient with this medical use, this is a test case. Will the court consider it medical use (giving it to your patient to transfer to a third patient) or will they say the only one that had medical use was the one actually using the marijuana (the third patient)? I don't know the answer, anyone want to get arrested for doing it, hire a lawyer, and spend a year or two in court to find out?

Dr. Bob

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Dr. Bob said:

The next variation is having a patient that is a caregiver as well. You can transfer marijuana to YOUR patient for THEIR personal use as medicine. The problem arises when you transfer to your patient who in turn transfers it to THEIR patient (the third patient). While you can say the transfer on the part of your patient to their patient is 'medical use' and therefore your are assisting your patient with this medical use, this is a test case. Will the court consider it medical use (giving it to your patient to transfer to a third patient) or will they say the only one that had medical use was the one actually using the marijuana (the third patient)? I don't know the answer, anyone want to get arrested for doing it, hire a lawyer, and spend a year or two in court to find out?Dr. Bob

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Tophead said:

I understand the michigan medical marijuana law to some extent. But I pose a purely theoretical question.

Let's just say I run a shop that sells magazines. I have a medical marijuana card. I accept donations towards the cause of promoting my shop and it's operating costs. The donations are placed in a large jar.

I leave some of my medical marijuana on the counter top. Someone makes a donation. I go into the back room to get a thank you card.
I come back and they have stolen the medical marijuana I left on the counter top.

I would probably decline to press any charges or even bother reporting the crime.


I understand none of this is covered in the medical marijuana law, and that it involves theft. But I pose the question anyway.

Any ideas?

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potsnoberry said:

This style "provisioning center" has been available to a select few in Mi for a few years. Usually tight-knit and referral only, they are naturally resistant to investigation and prosecution. If the dispensaries stand a chance (sans legislation) this option would be it, and hopefully the legal costs and repercussions will be drawn from their deep pockets.

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Dr. Bob said:

Dan Grow, the attorney in Kalamazoo, was speaking at a club function I attended and addressed this 'donation' issue.

His advice was this.

If you walk in to a store with money, and walk out with less money and marijuana, you bought marijuana. Especially if the marked undercover money was found in the pockets of the storekeeper. Call it a sale, a donation, or a gift, money changed hands for marijuana and it is a sale in the eyes of the law.

The variation of this is buying a mason jar for more than the cost of an empty mason jar. Especially if the price of the mason jar varied with the amount of marijuana it contained.

The next variation is having a patient that is a caregiver as well. You can transfer marijuana to YOUR patient for THEIR personal use as medicine. The problem arises when you transfer to your patient who in turn transfers it to THEIR patient (the third patient). While you can say the transfer on the part of your patient to their patient is 'medical use' and therefore your are assisting your patient with this medical use, this is a test case. Will the court consider it medical use (giving it to your patient to transfer to a third patient) or will they say the only one that had medical use was the one actually using the marijuana (the third patient)? I don't know the answer, anyone want to get arrested for doing it, hire a lawyer, and spend a year or two in court to find out?

Dr. Bob

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NEEDMMASAP said:

I posted this idea a couple of weeks ago and I still think it would work I truly believe God has told us loud and clear what should be done , I’m not talking some phony set up . No one would know who walked in with what or who left with what , no one would even know any transfers were even made , all the details could be worked out and the sick would get all the oil they would need . Is this a stupid idea ? Is believing in Gods Word a stupid idea ?

AGS Locations all across MI ?

AGS Locations all across MI ?


Why not turn this situation over to God ? I think it was posted that there are 130,000 patients and caregivers , that's a large group to start things off , let the locations be owned by God , if the evil assholes want to haul someone into court let them arrest God , its his meeting places , its no more than a meeting location for the benefit of everyone that appreciates the plant that has been given to us by our creator . Just imagine Big Pharma trying to compete with an origination that gives those in need the access to the oil that they ( Big Pharma ) is trying to sell them at a ridicules price , the locations can be set up with the extraction equipment , the members already have the legal right to produce the oil , what the members do beyond that are private matters between the members themselves . Did you ever wonder how there can be so many churches and so many people that are saying that they believe in Gods word and yet the totally ignore what God is clearly telling them , just look at Gods statement

GENESIS 1: 29 ---And God said , behold I have given you every herb bearing seed , which is upon the face of all the earth , and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed ; to you it shall be for meat .

Come on people , how can that not include the marijuana plant ? Yes the evil assholes can screw us over and its clear they are doing it right now , let them try to screw over God , we do not have to say a word , we are not saying it , God is .

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Previous Post ( in case you missed it ) This is something everyone should get behind .
Come on people , its time to look to our creator to straighten out this mess , do you really thing a bunch of pot heads are behind this Medical marijuana Movement , face the truth this is a battle between good and evil and good will prevail . Farmers markets , dispensary's , and compassion clubs are not the answer , its as simple a listening to our creator .
How could God have said it any clearer , we need a meeting place that is open 24/7 , these meeting places need to be spread across all of MI and the oil of this plant needs to be available to everyone in need , God has given us the recipe , yes its called Holy Oil

GENESIS 1: 29 ---And God said , behold I have given you every herb bearing seed , which is upon the face of all the earth , and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed ; to you it shall be for meat .

HomeLess its clear that you are a leader , look not for a farmers market location , but instead a “ home of the oil “ the time has come for the people that see truth of the marijuana plant to stop hiding in the basements and closets and unite into a group that proudly professes that God said it and that’s good enough for me .

AGS would be a good name for the locations ( AND GOD SAID )
Is believing in Gods Word a stupid idea ?

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medical/420 said:

If they donate money to them, you can donate weed to them, no one sold anything.
as for leaving it on the counter(the law says LOCKED UP)

I just got back from a compassion club and it is all donations no SALE's just donations

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medical/420 said:

If they donate money to them, you can donate weed to them, no one sold anything. as for leaving it on the counter(the law says LOCKED UP) I just got back from a compassion club and it is all donations no SALE's just donations

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Dr. Bob said:

Dan Grow, the attorney in Kalamazoo, was speaking at a club function I attended and addressed this 'donation' issue.

His advice was this.

If you walk in to a store with money, and walk out with less money and marijuana, you bought marijuana. Especially if the marked undercover money was found in the pockets of the storekeeper. Call it a sale, a donation, or a gift, money changed hands for marijuana and it is a sale in the eyes of the law.

The variation of this is buying a mason jar for more than the cost of an empty mason jar. Especially if the price of the mason jar varied with the amount of marijuana it contained.

The next variation is having a patient that is a caregiver as well. You can transfer marijuana to YOUR patient for THEIR personal use as medicine. The problem arises when you transfer to your patient who in turn transfers it to THEIR patient (the third patient). While you can say the transfer on the part of your patient to their patient is 'medical use' and therefore your are assisting your patient with this medical use, this is a test case. Will the court consider it medical use (giving it to your patient to transfer to a third patient) or will they say the only one that had medical use was the one actually using the marijuana (the third patient)? I don't know the answer, anyone want to get arrested for doing it, hire a lawyer, and spend a year or two in court to find out?

Dr. Bob

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Dr. Bob said:

May be, but AA is part of the state. Same law. Just a word to the wise and enforcement may not come from local sources.

There is a difference between being right and being lucky. You saw the ruling you see the C & D's going out. Guess that makes the point.

Dr. Bob

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NEEDMMASAP said:

Imagine this Dr Bob , the local AGS opens its kitchen at say 2:00 and closes at 8:00 anyone that is hungry eats all they care to eat , there is no charge to anyone , there is a donation box for anyone that wishes to donate . You may even like to work the serving line every now and then , at 8:00 there is a patients/caregivers private service , this is behind closed (locked ) doors , members only and everyone there is legally allowed to have 2.5 zip , unless LEO operates outside of the law they would have no idea of what you had going in and going out would be the same , no one over limit . The Church free will offering room would also be a locked area with one simple rule “ Only one member in the offering room at a time “ if that person puts in something or takes out something no one other than our creator would know . Nothing changes hands . One of the best things about this is the patients and caregivers would become a close nit group , a force working for the betterment of everyone , remember in our creators eyes we are all one family , we only need to become a united family .
How would an idea like this hold up in LEO’s system ?

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Dr. Bob said:

Did you see my earlier post on 'not being illegal if you aren't caught'? Don't get caught.

I'm all for people helping people, but the issue is if the law is broken either don't get caught or accept the fact you broke it and do what you wish.

Dr. Bob

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Dr. Bob said:

Did you see my earlier post on 'not being illegal if you aren't caught'? Don't get caught.

I'm all for people helping people, but the issue is if the law is broken either don't get caught or accept the fact you broke it and do what you wish.

Dr. Bob

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