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Can I cut these off?
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Renfro
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Why? They aren't shading any nodes really, Put the scissors away, they are babies.
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Just curious, I’m a noob. I didn’t know if they were necessary and soaking up nute. Thanks for the response.
xtsho
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They're soaking up light so that photosynthesis can occur to make energy for the plant to grow. They are not taking anything away from the rest of the plant they're powering the new growth.
Renfro
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Leaves provide photosynthesis. You want that. The sugars metabolized in those leaves will flow through the plants phloem down to the roots to help them grow. Cut the leaves and slow the growth. There are two major transports in your plant, xylem and phloem. The xylem takes nutrients and water from the roots upwards to the plant to support photosynthesis and cell division. The phloem takes the sugars and carbs, amino acids metabolized by the photosynthesis down into the plant to feed the roots. Xylem flow upwards in the stem and the phloem travels downwards through the stems. Wait until the plants are big and then defoliate with a purpose, to un-shade nodes, not just cutting off leaves willy-nilly thinking that is helpful lol. When a plant is really bushy then the removal of some fan leaves that shade nodes can be beneficial during veg and flower but timing is important and often less is more, especially in flower when you won't be getting anymore leaves, be judicious.
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And that is why I asked, I’ve learned a lot on this site. Thanks for the detailed response. I was on another site and they were a bunch of know it all a-holes, not looking to help.
Renfro
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Thats why I wanted to explain it better so you can make good choices on defoliation. Everyone has their own methods and some strains require more extensive defoliation, like all the cuts I got from Capulator have that MAC1 mega leafy thing going on, when you have leaves laying on top of leaves then somethings gotta go lol. Other strains have longer internodes and are way less leafy so they need little defoliation or even none.
I also find benefit in sparing the big fans on the bottoms of larger plants, even if I lollipop the node, this is because they act as a reservoir for mobile nutrients like nitrogen for example. This is handy in later flower because your plant can relocate those nutrients from shaded leaves to support bud growth when your feed has less nitrogen. Once they turn yellow they can go. Of course in some grows it becomes important to remove those leaves for risk of powdery mildew but if you have adequate ventilation down in the bottom as well as the top this prevents RH% and temp differentials down there when plants are big and think and filling a tent. Obviously not an issue unless the space is packed lol. So yeah it's a judgement call on defoliation but I take the approach that it's generally best to have a good reason for removing a leaf. When learning it's nice to have multiple plants where you can choose to perhaps defoliate one and not the other to see the results.
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I’m not sure this makes any sense but I’ve been watching a lot of videos on supercropping... would this case benefit from that? Or is it done more on branches with multiple nodes? Reason i ask is because I’m starting to freak out about space. I germinated 12 and didn’t expect 12 to make it. They aren’t feminized but I only really have space for 6 at most. So I need to consider space utilization.
Southernontariogrower
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Thats some damn good advice!
Renfro
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Supercropping is when you let a plant get sorta tall, then pull the main stem down sideways to make it fill out your space, trellis is a handy thing lol. I like to top a clone after like 5 or 6 nodes, then let those branches get like 3 feet long, then splay them out in all directions making them fill out a big area of trellis. Then veg it letting those nodes bust out making branches that grow vertical to produce colas in flower. You can see some of this tech in my grow journal.
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Wow, sweet room. I’m looking to get there at some point. I’m licensed for 48 and have a 20x50 space. Only working out of a 6x10 room right now. Smell would be a problem due to a few neighbors close by.
Renfro
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That's an easy enough fix, especially if you run sealed with AC and CO2. Scrubbers work great if you get good ones and can process the volume of your room every 2 minutes or less. Phat and Phresh are the best filters.
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Dumb question here... when should I go 12/12 light? I’m in 3 gal pots and really only want these things to get no more than 4 1/2 feet. Can you tell sex of the second pic? Today is day 33 after germination. If you’re wondering if this guy just woke up one day and decided to grow weed, the answer is yes.
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Renfro
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When the plants are about 1/3 to 1/2 the size you want them to end up. They typically double to triple in size but it varies by genetics.
Not really but if I was forced to guess I would wager male based on the circled item that could indicate male but I am definitely not sure.
That's LST, super cropping is cracking the branch first then bending it over.
Squeezing it just enough so the inside pops without the outside doing so. Let's you bend it without breaking it.
You probably know this and we're just simplifying for him but just for the sake of clarity.
ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ
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With 12 plants, you have a 5050 chance of male. No worries. 6 plants can fit in a 6x6 space easy.
You can always scrog too, this is a great way to get huge plants, with low heights
4 plants, 6 week veg from seed, 4x4 space, last pic is day 19 of 1212
Before flower
After flower stretch
After defloiation
You can always scrog too, this is a great way to get huge plants, with low heights
4 plants, 6 week veg from seed, 4x4 space, last pic is day 19 of 1212
Before flower
After flower stretch
After defloiation
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What can you tell me about this? This is after one month of run. It’s my pre filter for my exhaust
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Renfro
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It's dirty? lol Is it some sorta mildew or just dust? I'd run it through the washer.
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Could it be chlorinated tap water running through my misting humidifier?
Renfro
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I suppose it could be minerals from the humidifier. Use purified water to stop that from happening.