TRUMP CONVICTED

ec121 · Wednesday at 12:01 PM

topcat said:
Didn't know where to put this, so here it is. One on Twenty; Mehdi Hasan takes on all comers. It's lengthy, but well worth the time spent. The man comes with receipts.

Surprised to see Mendi isn't really a good debater, despite having great points and being well-prepared. I realize the format is not conducive to allowing someone to speak and then ripping into their points, but the constant interrupting by both sides is difficult to watch and someone has to be the adult in the room and lead by example. The "Sam Seder debates 20 Trump supporters" video (a few of them are the same from this video) was a far easier watch and he was more effective.

That said, it did serve to illustrate where some young people's minds are and it's pretty shocking. The dude saying he's for authoritarianism and it should be voted on and then everyone loses their democratic ability to change a government power thereafter was amazingly stupid. Like, so stupid that guy has to be a troll and not serious, but unfortunately you just know he is serious.

Canna4Life · Wednesday at 12:22 PM

I only joined to be in the company of fellow growers and post a few pictures of my grows when I get a chance. Save your rage/rants for someone else because I won't reply to it.

topcat · Wednesday at 12:56 PM

ec121 said:
Surprised to see Mendi isn't really a good debater, despite having great points and being well-prepared. I realize the format is not conducive to allowing someone to speak and then ripping into their points, but the constant interrupting by both sides is difficult to watch and someone has to be the adult in the room and lead by example. The "Sam Seder debates 20 Trump supporters" video (a few of them are the same from this video) was a far easier watch and he was more effective.

That said, it did serve to illustrate where some young people's minds are and it's pretty shocking. The dude saying he's for authoritarianism and it should be voted on and then everyone loses their democratic ability to change a government power thereafter was amazingly stupid. Like, so stupid that guy has to be a troll and not serious, but unfortunately you just know he is serious.

You must have missed the multiple times Mehdi's opponents were "voted off" by their own kind. Sad.

topcat · Wednesday at 12:59 PM

Canna4Life said:
I only joined to be in the company of fellow growers and post a few pictures of my grows when I get a chance. Save your rage/rants for someone else because I won't reply to it.

Yet, the first section you go to is Politics.

sunni · Wednesday at 2:51 PM

Canna4Life said:
I only joined to be in the company of fellow growers and post a few pictures of my grows when I get a chance. Save your rage/rants for someone else because I won't reply to it.

If you’re not interested in the political section, simply avoid it. You joined as you claim to be "int he company of fellow growers" yet your first two posts are straight to antagonizing users in the politics section.

Other users are free to engage there if they choose. You dont get to tell and mod people what to do.
You don’t have to participate — just move on and focus on the areas that are growing and more aligned with your interests

Consider this your only warning

ec121 · Thursday at 2:09 AM

topcat said:
You must have missed the multiple times Mehdi's opponents were "voted off" by their own kind. Sad.

Is this your first time watching a Jubilee debate format? That's how it works. They constantly "vote off" each other when some other person wants to jump in and make a point, which tends to be a minute or two, tops.

But I think you're misconstruing what I'm saying. Mehdi can debate mature adults, especially if they're sensible people. He's a very smart man and very informed, but he can't debate irrational people and takes things personally, as evidenced here.

Watch the Jubilee with Sam Seder (debating MAGAs) and Dr Mike (debating MAGAs on healthcare and covid) to see the difference I'm talking about. Dr Mike is a magician at hearing the dumbest shit ever spoken with the greatest amount of arrogance and politely addressing the point without being condescending. That's God-tier patience.

In the end, the musical chairs format is really worthless if the concept is to debate in order to persuade people to change their minds on anything, but that's not really what the objective of the channel is.

topcat · Thursday at 6:30 AM

ec121 said:
Is this your first time watching a Jubilee debate format? That's how it works. They constantly "vote off" each other when some other person wants to jump in and make a point, which tends to be a minute or two, tops.

But I think you're misconstruing what I'm saying. Mehdi can debate mature adults, especially if they're sensible people. He's a very smart man and very informed, but he can't debate irrational people and takes things personally, as evidenced here.

Watch the Jubilee with Sam Seder (debating MAGAs) and Dr Mike (debating MAGAs on healthcare and covid) to see the difference I'm talking about. Dr Mike is a magician at hearing the dumbest shit ever spoken with the greatest amount of arrogance and politely addressing the point without being condescending. That's God-tier patience.

In the end, the musical chairs format is really worthless if the concept is to debate in order to persuade people to change their minds on anything, but that's not really what the objective of the channel is.

Yep, first time with "jubilee". I'm not hip. I'm a dinosaur by design. I felt Mehdi pushed that tactic right back in the faces of these fascists being loud, obnoxious and searching for a response. Well done. They seemed to me to be H.S. students trying to get extra credit for their debate class. Juvenile, like their lord and master. He made it okay to be an adult who speaks like a sixth grader.

laddyd · Thursday at 9:13 AM

Sir Napsalot · Thursday at 3:29 PM

laddyd said:
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