Universal Seeds

unismoker

Member
I've just been having a debate on another forum and I would like to get the general concensus as to how people feel on here.

Many of you are probably aware of the launch of Universal Seeds (http://www.universal-seeds.com). They used to be the old JSD wholesalers which have now moved into the retail market. The 'problem' that people seem to be bitching about is that the prices are too low and this is a reason to distrust the company.

My argument is that there are three things which are important when I buy seeds..

1) The seeds must be the real thing i.e the proper quality.
2) The package must be stealthily delivered in such as way that the seeds are not damaged or destroyed and
3) It must be a fair price.

The argument in the other forum is that Citral Kush on the Universal Seeds site is $56 while on the other sites it $107 (although I think somebody was looking at a different package size). U.S. states that their prices are cheaper because they don't charge the uk vat of 20% to non eu customers. It seems to be the common concensus that if something is cheap then there is something wrong with it.

Now, and this is the whole point of the thread..... do we ignore a company comming onto the market just because they are cheaper (they probably don't have the overheads of the bigger companies) or should they be given a chance to prove themselves?

My opinion is that people in forums like this have the power of life and death over seed companies. If a newbie comes along and doesn't deliver the products or delivery standards then it only takes a couple of comments in here to blast away that companies chances. Shouldn't this at least be worth being able to give the newbie a chance of taking a couple of small $20 orders so that we can see if they are any good or not?

And just for the record......I don't work for universal seeds... just a bit irritated with how people are behaving.
 

Metasynth

Well-Known Member
No, UniSmoker, joined in Aug 2011...You don't work for Universal Seeds, you just assume we've all heard about it's launch when in actuality this is the first time we're hearing about it? I believe you don't work for them...the world is also flat, you know ;)
 

dukeanthony

New Member
I was just on that other Forum. We were also discussing Dukeranthony seeds,

They cost 10000 dollars a piece so they must be good. I'm not trying to shill my seeds
But here is the web address if you dont believe me
www.dukeanthonyseeds.com
 
"No, UniSmoker, joined in Aug 2011...You don't work for Universal Seeds, you just assume we've all heard about it's launch when in actuality this is the first time we're hearing about it? I believe you don't work for them...the world is also flat, you know
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Erm Nuff said MetaSynth ! i totaly agree.

If you look at the universal seeds site it is purely commecial, no interest or care has been taken on the content its just a store front to take your money - if its to good to be true then it probably is - BEWARE:sad::sad::sad::dunce:
 

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel
I like to stick with a sure thing, attitude and nirvana. I have ordered from a handful of other seed distributors with less than stellar results, and some with no results at all...
 

Dr Sativa

Member
Universal Seeds - "I've just been having a debate on another forum and I would like to get the general concensus bbbbbbuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllllllsssssshhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttttttttt seeds... just a bit irritated with how people are behaving."

Greed, envy and Theft - Three of the worst
 

Dr Sativa

Member
what about... http://www.highgrade-seeds.com also known as HGS? thats where i get neh girls from...now, with amazing results...fairly cheap as well...i dunno man, i guess it is worth a try.
I may be mistaken but How do you know that they are a actual breeder - and not just repackaging other breeders seeds, it happens alot and you have know way of knowing untill 3 or 4 months down the line? I have never heard of the strains on thier site and they dont seem to have any info on thier breeding process - they have an unusually large range of thier own strains - Most of the big breeders dont have the capacity to do breed that many strains with consistant results - ? opinions tokers?
 

growone

Well-Known Member
I may be mistaken but How do you know that they are a actual breeder - and not just repackaging other breeders seeds, it happens alot and you have know way of knowing untill 3 or 4 months down the line? I have never heard of the strains on thier site and they dont seem to have any info on thier breeding process - they have an unusually large range of thier own strains - Most of the big breeders dont have the capacity to do breed that many strains with consistant results - ? opinions tokers?
i've used HGS, i'd call them pretty good
he is a breeder, been around quite a while
his nl#5, that's good, several grow logs on here on that strain
his brainwreck wasn't as stable, but not bad, and his web site did have some warnings on the stability, but as long as you get an honest representation of the strain, i have no argument
 

Dr Sativa

Member
The industry seems large, but its not really, its specialists - this is why its the sam old (reliable and experienced) breeders winning the cups. this is a good thing or the industry would get swamped with shit seeds - Greed is the motivation. It is exceptionaly dificult to run a good breeding program and then market and sell those seeds. Most cup winning varieties only see the market in seed form two years after presented at the cups. Fact. Trust Dr Sativa --I am not a stranger - Believe!
 

RawBudzski

Well-Known Member
I ordered from Universal Seeds and they Stole $100k of my money! Never order from Universal Seeds! They are based in Nigeria, Africa.!. How's that for A+ publicity.
 

Dr Sativa

Member
i've used HGS, i'd call them pretty good
he is a breeder, been around quite a while
his nl#5, that's good, several grow logs on here on that strain
his brainwreck wasn't as stable, but not bad, and his web site did have some warnings on the stability, but as long as you get an honest representation of the strain, i have no argument
Hey Growone - I have not really looked into the HGS Forum - and Im certainly not comparing th effort that HGS has obviously made in the community! its the fact that some sites are purley a commercial exercise "universal-seeds.com" for example who appear in a day take som flak on the forums and then just "pooof" disappear ! Absolutly no community effort other than getting the dollers in!
 

growone

Well-Known Member
Hey Growone - I have not really looked into the HGS Forum - and Im certainly not comparing th effort that HGS has obviously made in the community! its the fact that some sites are purley a commercial exercise "universal-seeds.com" for example who appear in a day take som flak on the forums and then just "pooof" disappear ! Absolutly no community effort other than getting the dollers in!
no argument with that, there is a ton of that going on
HGS is reputable, not sure how good they are compared to other 'bigger' names, but i like what i got from them so far
 

Dr Sativa

Member
I ordered from Universal Seeds and they Stole $100k of my money! Never order from Universal Seeds! They are based in Nigeria, Africa.!. How's that for A+ publicity.
Budzki - so sorry to hear that. Now if ive done my homework properly - i would have to say that the Universal-seeds.com that were talking about are based in Camberley in Surrey - the actualy trade under a different name. Can you tell me when you placed the order also as these guys are saying they have been going since 2005 an i know for a fact that this is not the case - id say they have been up for no mor than 3 months! Please excuse my apppppallling english stoned fingerts - he he he
 
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