US policy is 'not to defend Canada' in any N Korea attack

vostok · Sep 16, 2017

A top general has told Canadian MPs they cannot count on US support if North Korea
launches a nuclear attack on their country.

Lt Gen Pierre St-Amand told the national defence committee in Ottawa there is no policy that

requires the US to aid Canada in any nuclear attack.

But on the upside, the committee also heard North Korea views Canada as a "peaceful" and "friendly" country.

Pyongyang's missile launch over Japan on Friday has put the region on edge.

Gen St-Amand told MPs: "The extent of the US policy is not to defend Canada.

"That's the fact I can bring to the table."

Canada has long avoided joining the US ballistic missile defence programme, under the assumption

that the US would shoot down a nuclear missile heading for its northern neighbour anyway.

But Lt Gen St-Amand's testimony suggested otherwise.

However, Mark Gwozdecky, assistant deputy minister for international security, said all evidence

suggested Canada was not in North Korea's crosshairs.

"There's been no direct threat to Canada," Mr Gwozdecky told the meeting.

"In fact, on the contrary, in recent contacts with the North Korean government, including in August

when our national security adviser was in Pyongyang, the indications were they perceived Canada

as a peaceful and indeed a friendly country."

Mr Gwozdecky stressed that even if Canada was not a target,

North Korea still posed a serious threat to global peace and security.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41285474)

schuylaar · Sep 16, 2017

not being able to 'count on' is different than not having an agreement in place.

i really dislike the hyperbole of media, because not everyone understands they write this way to sell advertising.

Bad Karma · Sep 16, 2017

They're not even a real country anyway.

goldberg71b · Sep 16, 2017

I'm tired of EVERYONE expecting the USA to protect or defend them. First off every country should consider their self defense ESSENTIAL as well as make sure it's capable of combating any threats they might face alone. Expecting the USA to defend them makes it easy for countries to take their own self defense less seriously and cut funding to their military. Which means they can't help USA when it needs it. Most countries don't even pay their fair share in to NATO. But dam they want USA there in a heart beat if there's a problem. When there's war how long do those that join stay? We should all be united in ending both N Korea and Iranian nukes! I mean if you're not going to pay the AGREED upon % who is it picking up the tab? It's ALWAYS the USA.

When it comes time to fight everyone wants USA on there side. When there's no fighting they've got no problems firing political pot shots at USA. Right now N Korea seems hell bent on war with USA. Every country in the world should be on our side in this and putting 100% effort in to ending nukes in N Korea.

MMJ Dreaming 99 · Sep 16, 2017

goldberg71b said:
I'm tired of EVERYONE expecting the USA to protect or defend them. First off every country should consider their self defense ESSENTIAL as well as make sure it's capable of combating any threats they might face alone. Expecting the USA to defend them makes it easy for countries to take their own self defense less seriously and cut funding to their military. Which means they can't help USA when it needs it. Most countries don't even pay their fair share in to NATO. But dam they want USA there in a heart beat if there's a problem. When there's war how long do those that join stay? We should all be united in ending both N Korea and Iranian nukes! I mean if you're not going to pay the AGREED upon % who is it picking up the tab? It's ALWAYS the USA.

When it comes time to fight everyone wants USA on there side. When there's no fighting they've got no problems firing political pot shots at USA. Right now N Korea seems hell bent on war with USA. Every country in the world should be on our side in this and putting 100% effort in to ending nukes in N Korea.

NK is not a threat. Scaremongering BS by the people in charge. Let SK deal with North Korea. Just crap to distract people. War and war mongering is a big busine$$.

goldberg71b · Sep 16, 2017

The world if facing a huge terrorist problem and many here in the USA want to prevent radicals from coming here. We also want to end ILLEGAL immigration. This isn't because we are racists. It's because we don't want what is happening in Europe now happening here. With the visa waiver program we have with many of these countries. If they let in radicals they're not just importing a problem to their country. They're giving them much much easier access to the USA. Instead of understanding that Canada Germany and other countries want to label us as racist. But yet want our help? If your way is so dam good then you shouldn't need the USA.

goldberg71b · Sep 16, 2017

MMJ Dreaming 99 said:
NK is not a threat. Scaremongering BS by the people in charge. Let SK deal with North Korea. Just crap to distract people. War and war mongering is a big busine$$.

It's not that easy USA has 45000 troops there approximately. And we have an agreement that we'll defend them. So you see we have no choice but to face it.

Other countries have that luxury because they trust the USA will always be there. Which should be looked at as a privilege we provide them. Because we provide that luxury you'd think we'd get the benefit of the doubt. But no the world wants to call 1/2 of us racists.

MMJ Dreaming 99 · Sep 16, 2017

goldberg71b said:
It's not that easy USA has 45000 troops there approximately. And we have an agreement that we'll defend them. So you see we have no choice but to face it.

Other countries have that luxury because they trust the USA will always be there. Which should be looked at as a privilege we provide them. Because we provide that luxury you'd think we'd get the benefit of the doubt. But no the world wants to call 1/2 of us racists.

NK is kabuki. Here is how you can tell. When SK goes to buy weaponry, they bought stuff to defend against and fight Japan not NK. See the history of how Japan can be unpleasant. 12 million people live around Seoul and most would die in a war.

SK and NK talk more thn they let on. SK props up NK with aid too. SK can defend themselves.

whitebb2727 · Sep 16, 2017

goldberg71b said:
It's not that easy USA has 45000 troops there approximately. And we have an agreement that we'll defend them. So you see we have no choice but to face it.

Other countries have that luxury because they trust the USA will always be there. Which should be looked at as a privilege we provide them. Because we provide that luxury you'd think we'd get the benefit of the doubt. But no the world wants to call 1/2 of us racists.

Ok. Ill bite.

Why you so he'll bent on ending dreamers? Seen on the news the other day where one kid threatened to expose another student that has been in this country since she was 2. Going to college and will most likely go on to be productive in our society.

Why are you against that? That girl poses no threat and the only reason to want her gone is the color of her skin.

goldberg71b · Sep 16, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
Ok. Ill bite.

Why you so he'll bent on ending dreamers? Seen on the news the other day where one kid threatened to expose another student that has been in this country since she was 2. Going to college and will most likely go on to be productive in our society.

Why are you against that? That girl poses no threat and the only reason to want her gone is the color of her skin.

First off I didn't say I was against dreamers. But I'll bite why do they get a free pass for being a law breaker? Why must we solve the problems their OWN parents created for them? I agree it's an awful position they are in but their parents decided to put their kids in that position. Are we or are we not a nation of laws?
I would agree many dreamers are good people an mean no harm. But not all have you seen the videos of daca kids flipping the bird at the cameras while they tell the citezens of this country to fuck off? We've got school forbidding chants of USA at games because some might be offended. Who is it do you think it is that would be offended by that? Have you seen schools sending legal citezens home from school because they wore a USA shirt on May 5.
If you aren't proud of the American flag or respect the legal citezens. No I don't want you here.

Reagan was the last president to make a deal in this area. The Dems promised boarde security and ending illegal immigration. If they had held ip their end of the bargain we wouldn't be in this mess now. But they didn't now they want to give more a pass. Then in a few years they'll allow their families to come. Isn't that the definition of rewarding bad behavior? Don't you think that will lead to continues illegal immigration?
I'd be more than happy to make a deal that allowed daca to stay. But in return I want FULL funding for a wall! I also want all immigration laws enforced NO EXEPTIONS! I'm all for LEGAL immigration. That includes full vetting and assimilation! The idea of no go zones like they have in Europe is unacceptable! Any immigrate that agrees with sharia law or have radical ties will not be permitted in or expelled at a later date. This isn't a joke. If they want to come here they OBEY our laws we are a democracy! We treat women as equals not second class citezens. Ect

whitebb2727 · Sep 16, 2017

goldberg71b said:
First off I didn't say I was against dreamers. But I'll bite why do they get a free pass for being a law breaker? Why must we solve the problems their OWN parents created for them? I agree it's an awful position they are in but their parents decided to put their kids in that position. Are we or are we not a nation of laws?
I would agree many dreamers are good people an mean no harm. But not all have you seen the videos of daca kids flipping the bird at the cameras while they tell the citezens of this country to fuck off? We've got school forbidding chants of USA at games because some might be offended. Who is it so you think it is that would be offended by that? Have you seen schools sending legal citezens home from school because they wore a USA shirt on May 5.
If you aren't proud of the American flag or respect the legal citezens. No I don't want you here.

Reagan was the last president to make a deal in this area. The Dems promised boarde security and ending illegal immigration. If they had held ip their end of the bargain we wouldn't be in this mess now. But they didn't now they want to give more a pass. Then in a few years they'll allow their families to come. Isn't that the definition of rewarding bad behavior? Don't you think that will lead to continues illegal immigration?
I'd be more than happy to make a deal that allowed daca to stay. But in return I want FULL funding for a wall! I also want all immigration laws enforced NO EXEPTIONS! I'm all for LEGAL immigration. That includes full vetting and assimilation! The idea of no go zones like they have in Europe is unacceptable! Any immigrate that agrees with sharia law or have radical ties will not be permitted in or expelled at a later date. This isn't a joke. If they want to come here they OBEY our laws we are a democracy! We treat women as equals not second class citezens. Ect

A wall is fucking retarded. Come on. Any purpose a wall serves can be done cheaper with sensors and technology cheaper. Plus we are going to have to pay for.

You bit enough for your true colors to show.

goldberg71b · Sep 16, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
A wall is fucking retarded. Come on. Any purpose a wall serves can be done cheaper with sensors and technology cheaper. Plus we are going to have to pay for.

You bit enough for your true colors to show.

I'd agree with that except the next liberal president I'll be able to roll it back or look the other way. If I could trust liberals to take the issue seriously and prevent illegals from entering Id be willing to listen to proposals. The problem is liberals have decided they want illegal immigrates for votes. So I can't trust anything but a wall. And I would be against anything other than a wall because of it. Bottom line is the only enforcement libs will agree on will be easily rolled back!

goldberg71b · Sep 16, 2017

And if you think that's mean. Go sneak into North Korea or china!

whitebb2727 · Sep 16, 2017

goldberg71b said:
I'd agree with that except the next liberal president I'll be able to roll it back or look the other way. If I could trust liberals to take the issue seriously and prevent illegals from entering Id be willing to listen to proposals. The problem is liberals have decided they want illegal immigrates for votes. So I can't trust anything but a wall. And I would be against anything other than a wall because of it. Bottom line is the only enforcement libs will agree on will be easily rolled back!

No one is for illegals voting.

I'm done. I don't have the energy for this.

ttystikk · Sep 17, 2017

goldberg71b said:
First off I didn't say I was against dreamers. But I'll bite why do they get a free pass for being a law breaker? Why must we solve the problems their OWN parents created for them? I agree it's an awful position they are in but their parents decided to put their kids in that position. Are we or are we not a nation of laws?
I would agree many dreamers are good people an mean no harm. But not all have you seen the videos of daca kids flipping the bird at the cameras while they tell the citezens of this country to fuck off? We've got school forbidding chants of USA at games because some might be offended. Who is it do you think it is that would be offended by that? Have you seen schools sending legal citezens home from school because they wore a USA shirt on May 5.
If you aren't proud of the American flag or respect the legal citezens. No I don't want you here.

Reagan was the last president to make a deal in this area. The Dems promised boarde security and ending illegal immigration. If they had held ip their end of the bargain we wouldn't be in this mess now. But they didn't now they want to give more a pass. Then in a few years they'll allow their families to come. Isn't that the definition of rewarding bad behavior? Don't you think that will lead to continues illegal immigration?
I'd be more than happy to make a deal that allowed daca to stay. But in return I want FULL funding for a wall! I also want all immigration laws enforced NO EXEPTIONS! I'm all for LEGAL immigration. That includes full vetting and assimilation! The idea of no go zones like they have in Europe is unacceptable! Any immigrate that agrees with sharia law or have radical ties will not be permitted in or expelled at a later date. This isn't a joke. If they want to come here they OBEY our laws we are a democracy! We treat women as equals not second class citezens. Ect

You're just terrified they'll be better qualified for your job.

You're right to be afraid; they work harder and more of them attend institutions of higher education than people like you.

Why would we want to keep hard working and highly educated people who grew up here and just want to be Americans, anyway?

You're a simple minded reactionary who can't think beyond your nose, swallowing whatever drivel the right wing shovels your way for their own benefit- because you sure as fuck never will.

ttystikk · Sep 17, 2017

goldberg71b said:
The world if facing a huge terrorist problem and many here in the USA want to prevent radicals from coming here. We also want to end ILLEGAL immigration. This isn't because we are racists. It's because we don't want what is happening in Europe now happening here. With the visa waiver program we have with many of these countries. If they let in radicals they're not just importing a problem to their country. They're giving them much much easier access to the USA. Instead of understanding that Canada Germany and other countries want to label us as racist. But yet want our help? If your way is so dam good then you shouldn't need the USA.

The most dangerous radicals in America, by far, are stupid right wingers like you. This isn't opinion, it's a statistical fact.

Or do most people storm pizza joints with semiautomatic weapons?

ttystikk · Sep 17, 2017

goldberg71b said:
I'm tired of EVERYONE expecting the USA to protect or defend them. First off every country should consider their self defense ESSENTIAL as well as make sure it's capable of combating any threats they might face alone. Expecting the USA to defend them makes it easy for countries to take their own self defense less seriously and cut funding to their military. Which means they can't help USA when it needs it. Most countries don't even pay their fair share in to NATO. But dam they want USA there in a heart beat if there's a problem. When there's war how long do those that join stay? We should all be united in ending both N Korea and Iranian nukes! I mean if you're not going to pay the AGREED upon % who is it picking up the tab? It's ALWAYS the USA.

When it comes time to fight everyone wants USA on there side. When there's no fighting they've got no problems firing political pot shots at USA. Right now N Korea seems hell bent on war with USA. Every country in the world should be on our side in this and putting 100% effort in to ending nukes in N Korea.

Cool.

So maybe Canada should dismantle and send back the DEW (Distant Early Warning) missile detection system and the BMEWS (Ballistic Missile Early Warning System) they graciously allowed us to build on their soil, in return for continued cooperation and our mutual defense?

You're stupid, uneducated, easily manipulated into incredibly dumb positions and you have no idea who benefits from the propaganda you kneel at your television, suck from Fix News and swallow with a smile every day, do you?

ttystikk · Sep 17, 2017

goldberg71b said:
And if you think that's mean. Go sneak into North Korea or china!

Right. Because DACA kids are totally responsible for their parents fleeing war, poverty and corruption and taking their children with them in the hope of providing them a better life.

You're either stupid, a sociopath or both. I can't wait for you to tell us which!

ttystikk · Sep 17, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
No one is for illegals voting.

I'm done. I don't have the energy for this.

That's part of their strategy; shout down the reasonable and chase them off.

Loud doesn't equate to valid.

The more strident they get, the more asinine their arguments, the more they discredit themselves in the eyes of the voting public.

ttystikk · Sep 17, 2017

LtGen Pierre St-Amand should be unceremoniously sacked- right after he writes a letter of apology to our most loyal, trustworthy and faithful ally, neighbor and trading partner.

What a turd in a starched shirt he is.

US policy is 'not to defend Canada' in any N Korea attack

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