veg time vs rooting time confusing?

Hello i have a question some people may learn and take in when they writing about their plants to seperate veg time and rooting.

Often i se journals and member posting pictures on their plant and saying look my plant is 2 week in veg but that plant looks like it is atleast 4 weeks to me exampel.

When do u guys start to use the word VEG instead of ROOTING i see many people confusing this subject and think when your seed first get their baby leafs thats when veg time starts.

It may confuse many newbs alsoe who thinks that rooting and veg is the same 4 weeks standard then theyr of to flower them.

So when do u start to use the word VEG and count it from that day and forward? / Flodas

There is no predefined seedling stage, from the second it breaks the surface it is vegetative. Its just a word with no real definition unlike vegetative or flowering stage which has a predefined start and end

This has me baffled also. Where did seedling stage go?

hillbill said:

This has me baffled also. Where did seedling stage go?

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Technically it was never there, just a word to describe small newborn plants, google it and youll find there are no rules for seedling stage unlike flower and veg stage...

Some folks must start counting later as I see some plants that seem ahead of their time. Some people count flower time from when they are sharp enough to see the first pistils.

I start the count on veg when I up-pot from party cups, whether seedling or clone. it doesn't really mean anything it's just a reference for timing perpetual cycle for me. You can count however it makes sense to you for reference as long as it's consistent.

hillbill said:

Some folks must start counting later as I see some plants that seem ahead of their time. Some people count flower time from when they are sharp enough to see the first pistils.

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Most count from when it breaks the surface as day one generally and then count up throught the vegetative period.

Many call the start of flowering when they flip to 12/12, many call it from first flowers. All good growers give details enough for you to work out the exact age and time spent in each stage so it shouldnt be confusing.

GroErr said:

I start the count on veg when I up-pot from party cups, whether seedling or clone. it doesn't really mean anything it's just a reference for timing perpetual cycle for me. You can count however it makes sense to you for reference as long as it's consistent.

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Exactly

The beginning of flower is the one that is totally subjective if not counting from flip or placement in 12/12. Some strains throw pistils right away and some are like three weeks. Some growers may be better at spotting early flowers. Other growers may not see at all. I like the count from flip because it is objective. It is not a floating point and keeps my mind right when comparing plants.

You guys are right with the words. But i think there should be something concrete that ppl use generaly instead of words.

Example when the baby leafs drops or you get by to your third internode? Any ideas? / flodas

I count from the time that the seedling emerges from the soil as veg time. I find that plants especially different strains develop at completely different rates. The cause may be environmental or strain related. I have some strains that are 2 feet tall and wide within the space of a month and others that are barely half that. Even more mysterious is the fact that many of the runts catch up to and even surpass the early developers.

A lot of folks start with clones so the plants are already rooted. They then count the veg time from when they've placed their clones in the new media.

hillbill said:

The beginning of flower is the one that is totally subjective if not counting from flip or placement in 12/12. Some strains throw pistils right away and some are like three weeks. Some growers may be better at spotting early flowers. Other growers may not see at all. I like the count from flip because it is objective. It is not a floating point and keeps my mind right when comparing plants.

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Lucky if you hit breeders flowering times counting from flip.

Rooting..veg.. all the same.. like saying Tomatoe...tomaro....Catsup..or catchup..

Breeders often give short flower time so people buy their 7 week Super Kush instead of the honest breeder who sells the same Super Kush that, of course, really takes 9 weeks.

Count what? Count why?

The fucking counting thing is useless!

Veg till the plant is as tall as you want (keeping in mind how much it will stretch) and bloom it.
Bloom a plant till it's done/ripe and harvest!

Now that's simple......

I say my plants are in veg until I flip the lights to 12/12. (I think like most posters here.) I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into your question but I've noticed my plants take longer than the breeders say to finish. I suspect it has to do with a number of factors but here is my take on some of them:

- I grow in coco... Slightly slower to completion than hydro.
- I usually veg for more than a month... The size of the plant factors in to how long flowering should take.
- I only use a 1000W HPS... The more energy provided to the plants, the faster they finish.

I've noticed that every aspect of the environment that I bring closer to being outside, the faster the finish. For example, when I installed my CO2 tank, I noticed the plants finished almost two weeks quicker. To circle back to your question... I think terminology may account for some of the differences you noted but it's probably not always the case. The plants can grow under almost any condition... It takes a little more work to make them thrive! Best of luck!

Dr. Who said:

Count what? Count why?

The fucking counting thing is useless!

Veg till the plant is as tall as you want (keeping in mind how much it will stretch) and bloom it.
Bloom a plant till it's done/ripe and harvest!

Now that's simple......

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I never have pulled a plant at a specific number day, but consider trich color and state of pistils retracting and many less or no new pistils for replacement.

I like a specific start point so as not to be shocked at someone's Grow that has huge buds at 4 weeks in flower. You might wonder how your buds are so small and you put the plant in the flower area a couple days earlier than that grower. But the other grower's plants were flipped 6 weeks ago but pistils were not seen by the grower for 2 weeks which is when he/she starts counting.

Just a reference point.

Dr. Who said:

Count what? Count why?

The fucking counting thing is useless!

Veg till the plant is as tall as you want (keeping in mind how much it will stretch) and bloom it.
Bloom a plant till it's done/ripe and harvest!

Now that's simple......

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After a few grows I totally agree that counting is useless....

you cannot grow by a clock. seeds from the same strain grow and mature at different rates. I like to limit the height of finished plants because of limited vertical room in my grow room so I veg until the plant is 12 inches tall then move them to my flowering room. the plants will tell me when their mature and ready to harvest not the calendar