ODanksta
Well-Known Member
Alright guys and gals I always have people asking be how to yield the most possible. Well here is the the simple common sense solution. A Pine Tree grows tall and its roots run deep, while a Oak Tree grows fat and squat and its roots run wide. Now considering Pine Trees grow in different places then Oak Trees ask yourself why? It is because of the soil. Pine Trees thrive in rocky and clay soil while oaks thrive in loose soil. Why is this important? Well lets visualize the Pine tree being a Sativa and a Oak being Indica, "of course this is not true" that is why I say "visualize". The rule I have always followed is if you want a 3 ft tall plant, plant in a 3 gallon container if you want 5 ft tall plant, plant a 5 gallon and so on. This however is not always true just a good rule when dealing with smaller plants. So with this being said have you ever seen outdoor plants grow into beast? Why? It's because the roots have plenty of room to grow large, and a large plant means a large yield "not always" but its just common sense. Genetics play a huge role in this game, and you will never be able to yield 5 lbs from a auto flowering plant, it is just not going to happen..
So the next question is how do you yield 5 lbs from plant "which I have never done, but know how to".
Well first off you need to know what your doing, but even if you do not, a 1/2 lb plant is very possible. Half a lb from a plant is pretty fucking good no matter who you are that is alot of cash or personal smoke depending what your intentions are.
Well here is how you do it, and this is not always true for anybody just a good rule of thumb. It does not take a large amount of cash for stupid expensive system, for instance look at the outdoor growers.
Are they using aeroponics? NO.
So my two methods if you want to yield the most from a plant. Clones or seeds, however Clones will be a lot cheaper for my method.
First find quality genetics, something that is a hybrid of 50/50 or 60/40 to indica to sativa ratio. A prime example not the best just a good example is Jack Herer which is believed to be a 60/40 sativa to indica.
Second use what you know best. Your favorite nutes and your favorite soil, Mine is Coco Coir and General Hydroponics 3 part old school because it is cheap and extremely effective, the standard for hydroponics. True and tried.
Second and a half you can use a Soil less mix or a organic soil or a RDWC hydro system. Now let me explain real quick what RDWC it is the same as DWC "deep water cultivation" but lets say instead of those pesky air stones and toss in sub pumps instead. A stupidly simple large producing is so simple. You start with a 5 gallon bucket and drill hundred of holes in the bottom and the sides of the bottom, your basically making a 5 gallon net pot "more holes the better". Start with a good medium that is some what light, like large chips of Coco here is a thread I started about coco if you have questions..
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/163510-coco-growers-unite.html
Now with that large 5 gallon net pot you have made throw it in a 18 or better yet 32 gallon plastic container like a ruff neck. Inside that large ruff neck container you buy yourself a 1000gph sub pump and put in there on its side. Then cut a hole a top of lid of the ruff neck "thicker is better" trash cans work awesome too. Well that hole should be big enough to fit the 5 gallon bucket in like a net pot. This a very simple RDWC system. Why is this better then DWC? It sucks air through the roots of the net pot causing a tornado like effect in the res. Not to mention it is constantly splashing water up like aeroponics. There are many of ways building a system like this but this is easy and cheap.
Second and 3/4 a medium of your choice works just as good but may take a couple weeks longer.
Ok third, Veg time is everything, honestly veg is everything. I suggest for yields as stated above, start with the best genetics possible. Do your simple training the first three weeks in a 1 gallon pot. After the three weeks transplant into a 5 gallon pot and start LST and tying down branches or my choice FIM. Once again Genetics is everything. I say a healthy 6 to 8 weeks of veg for a 1/2 pound. Not from rooted clone but instead a established plant. That is where a lot a people get confused I don't even start to count days until after the plant starts to thrive.
Fourth after you did your transplants, keep your ph and ppm's in check in a RDWC system you can run your nutes lower then normal. And depending on your strain you can feed most indica's more them sativa's, but once again that is up to debate.
Fifth if your strain says 8 weeks run it 10 or 11. That is the secret to pulling the highest yield possible, most breeders will lie about their flowering times, because most new growers are looking to pull as much as quick as possible. I am telling you marijuana is all about have patience, in the end your patience pays off.
Sixth keep it going, take cuts from you plant before you start flowering so you can have a batch ready for the next run. Keep it going, if you run into a spider mite infection throw your plants outside if possible and start all over from seeds or fresh "trusted clones"
This is very simple way to pull the most possible, I ask for you guys to understand this is not possible by using CLF's or LED's it is just not going to happen, so don't even dare ask me. Maybe if your a complete baller and you line your whole room in tech 5's and if your at that point you won't even read this thread.
HPS and MH are a must. I choose to mix both HPS and MH for the best results lets say if your growing four plants. You make a square with your plants at least a 600 or a 1000 above each plant, with a light hanging in vertically in the middle of the square so the plant can grow out side ways and not just up. Then rotate the plants everyday where the plants get light on the sides of the plants.
Temp plays a huge role also, I expect you to already know this. 76 in veg and 76 for the first four weeks of flower then start dropping your temps gently until you get the room in the 50's with the lights off if possible at the end of flowering time. This helps make your plants purple and removes the greeny taste made by chlorophyll which is what makes your plants green, you get those temps low enough they taste more floral then grassy. This is not needed just my personal favorite way to grow..
Anymore info feel free to ask I am here for you.
So the next question is how do you yield 5 lbs from plant "which I have never done, but know how to".
Well first off you need to know what your doing, but even if you do not, a 1/2 lb plant is very possible. Half a lb from a plant is pretty fucking good no matter who you are that is alot of cash or personal smoke depending what your intentions are.
Well here is how you do it, and this is not always true for anybody just a good rule of thumb. It does not take a large amount of cash for stupid expensive system, for instance look at the outdoor growers.
Are they using aeroponics? NO.
So my two methods if you want to yield the most from a plant. Clones or seeds, however Clones will be a lot cheaper for my method.
First find quality genetics, something that is a hybrid of 50/50 or 60/40 to indica to sativa ratio. A prime example not the best just a good example is Jack Herer which is believed to be a 60/40 sativa to indica.
Second use what you know best. Your favorite nutes and your favorite soil, Mine is Coco Coir and General Hydroponics 3 part old school because it is cheap and extremely effective, the standard for hydroponics. True and tried.
Second and a half you can use a Soil less mix or a organic soil or a RDWC hydro system. Now let me explain real quick what RDWC it is the same as DWC "deep water cultivation" but lets say instead of those pesky air stones and toss in sub pumps instead. A stupidly simple large producing is so simple. You start with a 5 gallon bucket and drill hundred of holes in the bottom and the sides of the bottom, your basically making a 5 gallon net pot "more holes the better". Start with a good medium that is some what light, like large chips of Coco here is a thread I started about coco if you have questions..
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/163510-coco-growers-unite.html
Now with that large 5 gallon net pot you have made throw it in a 18 or better yet 32 gallon plastic container like a ruff neck. Inside that large ruff neck container you buy yourself a 1000gph sub pump and put in there on its side. Then cut a hole a top of lid of the ruff neck "thicker is better" trash cans work awesome too. Well that hole should be big enough to fit the 5 gallon bucket in like a net pot. This a very simple RDWC system. Why is this better then DWC? It sucks air through the roots of the net pot causing a tornado like effect in the res. Not to mention it is constantly splashing water up like aeroponics. There are many of ways building a system like this but this is easy and cheap.
Second and 3/4 a medium of your choice works just as good but may take a couple weeks longer.
Ok third, Veg time is everything, honestly veg is everything. I suggest for yields as stated above, start with the best genetics possible. Do your simple training the first three weeks in a 1 gallon pot. After the three weeks transplant into a 5 gallon pot and start LST and tying down branches or my choice FIM. Once again Genetics is everything. I say a healthy 6 to 8 weeks of veg for a 1/2 pound. Not from rooted clone but instead a established plant. That is where a lot a people get confused I don't even start to count days until after the plant starts to thrive.
Fourth after you did your transplants, keep your ph and ppm's in check in a RDWC system you can run your nutes lower then normal. And depending on your strain you can feed most indica's more them sativa's, but once again that is up to debate.
Fifth if your strain says 8 weeks run it 10 or 11. That is the secret to pulling the highest yield possible, most breeders will lie about their flowering times, because most new growers are looking to pull as much as quick as possible. I am telling you marijuana is all about have patience, in the end your patience pays off.
Sixth keep it going, take cuts from you plant before you start flowering so you can have a batch ready for the next run. Keep it going, if you run into a spider mite infection throw your plants outside if possible and start all over from seeds or fresh "trusted clones"
This is very simple way to pull the most possible, I ask for you guys to understand this is not possible by using CLF's or LED's it is just not going to happen, so don't even dare ask me. Maybe if your a complete baller and you line your whole room in tech 5's and if your at that point you won't even read this thread.
HPS and MH are a must. I choose to mix both HPS and MH for the best results lets say if your growing four plants. You make a square with your plants at least a 600 or a 1000 above each plant, with a light hanging in vertically in the middle of the square so the plant can grow out side ways and not just up. Then rotate the plants everyday where the plants get light on the sides of the plants.
Temp plays a huge role also, I expect you to already know this. 76 in veg and 76 for the first four weeks of flower then start dropping your temps gently until you get the room in the 50's with the lights off if possible at the end of flowering time. This helps make your plants purple and removes the greeny taste made by chlorophyll which is what makes your plants green, you get those temps low enough they taste more floral then grassy. This is not needed just my personal favorite way to grow..
Anymore info feel free to ask I am here for you.
