Warning: Nirvana has pulled all AF of the shelf!!!!!!!!!

Let me give you heads up, Nirvana has pulled all the new AF are not selling them anyone. I've been in contact with them about these AF and they have agreed that the seeds they sold are not viable. They takes months longer to finish, grow way too big, and ofter fail to flower. If you are growing a Nirvana AF and your plants are less then four weeks old, you would be better off pulling them now. MY NL AF are over eight weeks old and still do not have any bud sites. If I had purchased normal seeds, and flowered them in the third week, I'd have three week old fowers/buds on my plants now. If taking five months to harvest indoors, while getting half the yeild (if they decide to flower at all) is acceptalbe, then let them grow. If they are less the four weeks old, you can start a new grow, finish at the same time, while getting twice the yeild with no risk of flower failure.

i've heard alot of people on here complaining recently that there nirvana autoflowers are not autoflowering,
well it's good that nirvana acknowledged this and are doing something about it, not really fair selling people so called autoflower seeds when they dont autoflower
i know i would be pissed off

that sucks for Nirvana and anyone who bought seeds from them that didn't perform... It had to have been too good to be true. Having that great selection of strains in auto-flower! That kinda blows that they jumped the gun so quick without knowing the viability of their beans. It has to make you wonder how many other seedbanks are doing the same to keep up with the AF market.
I guess the only positive thing is .... ummm..

ataxia said:

that sucks for Nirvana and anyone who bought seeds from them that didn't perform... It had to have been too good to be true. Having that great selection of strains in auto-flower! That kinda blows that they jumped the gun so quick without knowing the viability of their beans. It has to make you wonder how many other seedbanks are doing the same to keep up with the AF market.
I guess the only positive thing is .... ummm..

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You got that right! The benefit is zero. The detractions, too manny to count!. You could be three months into a grow before you realize "Shit, these will never flower!". Or they will take two months longer than a normal grow, be just as big, with half the yeild! WTF is that? Let me see, first my grow can fail due to genetics, if not that then it will take two months longer than normal, grow just as large, but yeild half as much?!! Even a fucking retard would know that is some BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to let you know, if you purchased these fucked up peices of shit, demand to them to send you two packs of new seeds of your choosing. Thats what they offered me, so dont accept anything less. Not sure I will grow them, but fucked it, they costed me hundreds of dollars in time, lights, electric, yield, so why not take some bottom line from them.

im so sorry to hear that, trhat blows man, couldnt imagine going that long only to find out their bunk! I would request alot mroe than 2 packs of seeds. I would be asking for 500 seeds for the lost time, electric, yield and frustration. Good luck bro on your future grows, Karma will come back to you with BIG YIELDS for your bad luck.

That sucks hard-core, but +rep Crypotic. 2 reasons: 1) These sort of issues won't get reported on the news, and you thought enough of the forum members to let them know and 2) Your avatar is classic. It might be 4chan, but it is funny 4chan. Good luck on your future grows.

tough man, that shit is annoying.

what are you going to with yours? so then they won't flower after 12/12, i'm sure i've seen people in the AF thread discussing this

HomeGrown&Smoked said:

That sucks hard-core, but +rep Crypotic. 2 reasons: 1) These sort of issues won't get reported on the news, and you thought enough of the forum members to let them know and 2) Your avatar is classic. It might be 4chan, but it is funny 4chan. Good luck on your future grows.

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Thanks for the rep bro, but not needed. I just dont want any other newbie getting ass deep into untested genetics like me. LOL, I had to look the "4chan" thing up, cuz I had no idea what the hell it meant. I pulled this avatar off of google search when it made me laugh my ass off. My best bud on here hates it, but his real brother thinks if funny as shit. So I decided to keep to just annoy my friend and amuse his brother lol.

upthearsenal said:

tough man, that shit is annoying.

what are you going to with yours? so then they won't flower after 12/12, i'm sure i've seen people in the AF thread discussing this

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Not sure what I will do. But I just started 12/12 About three days ago, so I will let it roll up to 11 weeks to see if that works. If not, then I will ditch them an never buy a fucking thing from Nirvana ever again. I haven't seen the AF thread, but I guess I should check it out. I've seen enough examples to know what is up. I wrote Nirvana a long ass email detailing the problems with sited grow jorunals, and demanded that they either pull them or change the info on their site. Two days later, they pulled the product from the shelves. All the New AF are now listed as "Out of Stock" and they have not stated anything on their site but this is the response I've gotten from Alice:

Thank you for your complaint. That may sound strange, but we take is very serious! It seems like the first batches we received from our breeder were doing fine, but the latest batches are not doing what they are supposed to be doing and I am sorry about that. At the moment we are studying all the grow reports we have received so far to see what the problem is exactly and have contacted our breeder about this problem. We might have to decide to stop selling these strains, or at least change the description in our shop. I would like to send you 2 packs of feminized seeds from a strain of your choice to compensate you for the Northern Lights. Please let me know which strain (s) you would prefer to receive.
Peace,
Alice"

Crypnotic said:

I pulled this avatar off of google search when it made me laugh my ass off. My best bud on here hates it, but his real brother thinks if funny as shit. So I decided to keep to just annoy my friend and amuse his brother lol.

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It's just one of those things where the picture and the caption just go perfect. A comedic peanut butter and jelly sandwich, if you will.

I am sure Nirvana will fix the problem.

lol i new this would happen allways someone pissed of
nirvana new it too they where selling them to challAnge other seedbanks
they where giving them as freebies for a reason like i said at the start

Bad genetics from Nirvana..

`SoA || Asi said:

lol i new this would happen allways someone pissed of
nirvana new it too they where selling them to challAnge other seedbanks
they where giving them as freebies for a reason like i said at the start

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I'm of that opinion too. They like to play stupid and blame it on a third party, but I dont believe it myself. Shit, just go thru their strain guide. The describe their WW as a "tall" plant yet have listed as a meduim. I've researched it, and that bitch grow on average five fucking feet! So what is it, tall or meduim? They list their Ice strain as the cup winner in 1998, but Super Silver Haze won that year. I can go with the BS they publish, but I wont. What i boils down to it, they are a knock off artist, that specialize in selling to newbie Americans who dont know their shit, for real cheap, with good customer service (cus thats what they got instead of genetics). They are the orignal DNA boys without any of the consistancies. Their favorite thing to do it get the orginal gentics, cross it once with NL and sell that shit as their own. No testing, no generations, bang dog shit arrives at your door! IDK, with attidude now they have some real competition, anyone can buy any breeders seeds, get shipped to the US, and not worry about shitty genetics or some over hyped/lied marketing.

That's a bummer man. I cam glad you get some free seeds at least. I know it doesn't make up for your time and other expenses, but its something at least.

Just remember, this is a Nirvana's buying mistake, not autoflowers in general.

KuLong said:

That's a bummer man. I cam glad you get some free seeds at least. I know it doesn't make up for your time and other expenses, but its something at least.

Just remember, this is a Nirvana's buying mistake, not autoflowers in general.

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I do understand that. I research AF before buying and thought they would be perfect form my first clf grow. NL, good with heat (I live in the subtropics), foregiving to newbies, stay short, finish fast (good bud to smoke!). BS. AF are good, Nirvanas shit aint.

Ive never dealt with Nirvana before. Ive always heard they were like the Wal-Mart of seed banks. I believe their prices reflect that.

ive seen alot of people with this problem lately too, my advice has been to flip to 12/12 since they are obviously not going to flower on their own and so far out of 4-5 people they started flowering pretty quick and doing good, so it might not be a total loss. i think this problem extends alot further than 4 weeksback , the one guys been growing his for almost 3-4 months now and others chimed in with stories of their 6-8 week autoflowering plants that were not flowering.

My Nirvana Short Riders are on day 58 (Sprouted July 25th) with no pistils or balls to be found. About to just chop these down since they've waaaay outgrown their space.

Thats a shame about the Short Rider, they've sold that for a long time and I didnt know they were messing them up too. All the new AF: Jock Horror, Northern Light, Bubbalicious, Blue Mystic. Those are garaunteed to be messed up. I"m on day 58 of NL AF and they do have pistols and white hairs. I will give them a few weeks to see if they bud.

Make sure to contact Nirvana and ask for two packs of new seeds.