Watering coco twice a day

grou · Jan 23, 2022

currently using ghe ripen. Label suggests i use 5ml/liter. Should i mix 2.5/liter since im watering twice a day or once 5/liter and once phed water?

In grow shop, consultant suggested 5ml/liter twice a day and when i checked runoff it was 3.4 ec. Since then i flushed with florakleen 3ml/liter.

Psyphish · Jan 23, 2022

You don't even need Ripen IMO...

grou · Jan 23, 2022

Psyphish said:
You don't even need Ripen IMO...

Yea but can you please answer my question

Star Dog · Jan 23, 2022

I'd use it twice daily, using water afterwards will flush out the nutrient you're paying to put in.

To get such a high ec it sounds like your not feeding to run off sufficiently or you have a warm dry environment?

twentyeight.threefive · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
Yea but can you please answer my question

He did answer your question. Use 0 ml / day.

Follow the instructions for your manufacturers base nutrients schedule. Dilute the final result to a usable EC feed.

Rurumo · Jan 23, 2022

I agree with twentyeight, you should be testing all the nutes that go in with an EC meter, don't get hung up on ml/liter. Products and grow shops want to push sales, which means they want you to use as much product as possible.

jondamon · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
currently using ghe ripen. Label suggests i use 5ml/liter. Should i mix 2.5/liter since im watering twice a day or once 5/liter and once phed water?

In grow shop, consultant suggested 5ml/liter twice a day and when i checked runoff it was 3.4 ec. Since then i flushed with florakleen 3ml/liter.

I’ve used GHE RIPEN before.

It’s basically a high sulfur “forcing” solution.

I ditched it years ago as it did nothing more than make the plants yellow out prematurely.

i much prefer now using increased Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom salts) from about week 4/5 of 12/12 for the increased S along with Mg.

additonal S increases terpenes and from what I’ve witnessed it appears to increase Trich production too.

When I did use GHE RIPEN I used it at the same EC my base nutrients were being fed at.

So if my base nutes had been used at 0.8EC I mixed up the RIPEN to 0.8EC however though it quickly became apparent that the lack of N and increased S P and K (0-6-5) was not liked by the plants for those last 2 weeks that it recommends using it for.

grou · Jan 23, 2022

jondamon said:
I’ve used GHE RIPEN before.

It’s basically a high sulfur “forcing” solution.

I ditched it years ago as it did nothing more than make the plants yellow out prematurely.

i much prefer now using increased Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom salts) from about week 4/5 of 12/12 for the increased S along with Mg.

additonal S increases terpenes and from what I’ve witnessed it appears to increase Trich production too.

When I did use GHE RIPEN I used it at the same EC my base nutrients were being fed at.

So if my base nutes had been used at 0.8EC I mixed up the RIPEN to 0.8EC however though it quickly became apparent that the lack of N and increased S P and K (0-6-5) was not liked by the plants for those last 2 weeks that it recommends using it for.

Epsom salt is not available in my area. Would maxibloom (5-15-14) from ghe be good for finishing?

grou · Jan 23, 2022

Rurumo said:
I agree with twentyeight, you should be testing all the nutes that go in with an EC meter, don't get hung up on ml/liter. Products and grow shops want to push sales, which means they want you to use as much product as possible.

I am testing ec. It was 1.7-2.0 before but now i will give 1.2-1.4 ripen solution twice a day.

myke · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
Epsom salt is not available in my area. Would maxibloom (5-15-14) from ghe be good for finishing?

What? You don't have a drug store?

grou · Jan 23, 2022

Star Dog said:
I'd use it twice daily, using water afterwards will flush out the nutrient you're paying to put in.

To get such a high ec it sounds like your not feeding to run off sufficiently or you have a warm dry environment?

Pots are pretty close to oil radiator so its probably latter. That makes sense thanks. Plants are in 10 liter pots. Did not expect them to get this big 40inch+. I usually get 20-40% runoff.

calvin.m16 · Jan 23, 2022

If you're feeding twice a day it depends on your container size if you use full strength or not. If the plant isn't eating up what you gave it and then you pile more on top of it then you will get toxicity. Also don't read run off and dont trust people working at grow stores.

grou · Jan 23, 2022

myke said:
What? You don't have a drug store?

Only 25 gram packets are available for 15cents. How much do you use per liter?

calvin.m16 · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
Pots are pretty close to oil radiator so its probably latter. That makes sense thanks. Plants are in 10 liter pots. Did not expect them to get this big 40inch+. I usually get 20-40% runoff.

Do you have any pictures of the plants? 10 liters thats like a "2 gallon" pot. I find it hard to believe those would need more than 1 watering per/24 hours. I would start watering once daily until runoff. You want to see some water coming out of the bottom it doesn't need to be a specific percentage. The point in coco is making sure it's always saturated and never Dry.

grou · Jan 23, 2022

calvin.m16 said:
If you're feeding twice a day it depends on your container size if you use full strength or not. If the plant isn't eating up what you gave it and then you pile more on top of it then you will get toxicity. Also don't read run off and dont trust people working at grow stores.

40inch+ plants in 10 liter containers.

calvin.m16 · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
40inch+ plants in 10 liter containers.

You should only need to water 1 time per/day I just harvested some seedling test plants in 2 gallons and even under 1000w Double-Ended HPS they only needed to be watered around 1000 ml (1 liter) every day in coco/perlite. The plants were easily 3 feet tall or ~40 inches.

myke · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
Only 25 gram packets are available for 15cents. How much do you use per liter?

About 4-6 pieces or 1/2 -1 gram per 4 litres

grou · Jan 23, 2022

calvin.m16 said:
Do you have any pictures of the plants? 10 liters thats like a "2 gallon" pot. I find it hard to believe those would need more than 1 watering per/24 hours. I would start watering once daily until runoff. You want to see some water coming out of the bottom it doesn't need to be a specific percentage. The point in coco is making sure it's always saturated and never Dry.

I water twice and still top part of coco is dry

calvin.m16 · Jan 23, 2022

grou said:
I water twice and still top part of coco is dry

Are the plants showing signs of nutrient burn? If not keep ripping it. You must not defoliate much with how much those are drinking.

How much nutrient solution are you giving them each time?

grou · Jan 23, 2022

calvin.m16 said:
You should only need to water 1 time per/day I just harvested some seedling test plants in 2 gallons and even under 1000w Double-Ended HPS they only needed to be watered around 1000 ml (1 liter) every day in coco/perlite. The plants were easily 3 feet tall or ~40 inches.

I water 1500 ml twice. When i water with 1000 ml i dont get runoff or maybe 5%

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