What is wrong with these plants?

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LEGENDA

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Hey RIU,

So i've bumped into a new sort of problem with my plants, yesterday i checked them and they & suddenly all look like this the pictures att.

So im onto the 7th week of vegging my plants, under a 600w light in 120x120cm tent. I've recently added the first nutes to them; "Sensi grow PH perfect" By advanced nutritions to for like 5 days ago. The pots are 3,4 liters (0.90 gallons/114 ounces) and i've fertillized them with 14ml of Sensi Grow A and Sensi Grow B each.

I dont know, what could have happended - i'm so careful with watering them, since i know how harmful overwatering can be, and the plants do not look quite underwatered, do they? I water them everytime the first 2-3 cm' of the soil is dry, which is like 2 times a week, and then i water them until i see a bit of water coming out from the bottom.

The first plant one is seedsmans, African Buzz.
Second one is greenhouse, Ladyburn 1945 (The reason why is so short, is because i moves it' pot from a 1-liter to a 3,4 liter - This plant looks pretty hopeless :cry:)
The third one is seedsmans, White widow.

It annoys the hell out of me, i try so much to have as optimized plants as possible, and it just fails. I have 6 other plants, which all looks better and acceptable. They all have been treated the same way.

Please give me some feedback on what i should, is there still some hope to save it? And what have i done wrong?
 

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SnaFuu

SnaFuu

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Ouch well.. 6 weeks is a long time to go without food..
you could always find another hobby
 
*BUDS

*BUDS

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This looks like major transplant shock. When did you transplant them? If it is I doubt they can recover bro . Start again and be more careful when repotting, make sure its rootbound so the roots stay undisturbed.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Were they okay before you fed them? What was the ppm on the feeding 5 days ago? They look like the roots stopped working.
 
frizzlegooch

frizzlegooch

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You should try less to optimize your plant and just let it do its thing homie, this thing looks torched though :(
honestly the hardest thing about growing for me is refraining from doing to much haha
 
kinddiesel

kinddiesel

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honestly. shit. im not trying to be a dick and bash you. those are the worst plants I have even seen ever . my advice is stop what you are doing. and just buy your weed off some body else. I have see a plant like that once when some dick head sprayed grass killer on some ones out side grow . killed all his plants. not saying what happen to the ass hole . he no longer has a place to live I have hear last. strange things happening all around I guess. but all honestly. there is no point in putting any more money into a grow. if you don't have the basic skills to keep a plant alive. its just not to be .
 
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GrowersWarehouse

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They're dead. It's impossible to accurately determine why without more info. They definitely were suffering from either a deficiency or a lock out.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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LEGENDA said:
Hey RIU,

So i've bumped into a new sort of problem with my plants, yesterday i checked them and they & suddenly all look like this the pictures att.

So im onto the 7th week of vegging my plants, under a 600w light in 120x120cm tent. I've recently added the first nutes to them; "Sensi grow PH perfect" By advanced nutritions to for like 5 days ago. The pots are 3,4 liters (0.90 gallons/114 ounces) and i've fertillized them with 14ml of Sensi Grow A and Sensi Grow B each.

I dont know, what could have happended - i'm so careful with watering them, since i know how harmful overwatering can be, and the plants do not look quite underwatered, do they? I water them everytime the first 2-3 cm' of the soil is dry, which is like 2 times a week, and then i water them until i see a bit of water coming out from the bottom.

The first plant one is seedsmans, African Buzz.
Second one is greenhouse, Ladyburn 1945 (The reason why is so short, is because i moves it' pot from a 1-liter to a 3,4 liter - This plant looks pretty hopeless :cry:)
The third one is seedsmans, White widow.

It annoys the hell out of me, i try so much to have as optimized plants as possible, and it just fails. I have 6 other plants, which all looks better and acceptable. They all have been treated the same way.

Please give me some feedback on what i should, is there still some hope to save it? And what have i done wrong?
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Did you also add water when you gave the 28ml. of nutes?
 
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LEGENDA

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Buds, Bugeye

Yea, they were all doing just fine. I think what happended with the ladyburn is that i moved it without it was being rootbound, and so it died... But what has happened with the African Buzz and the White Widow, i have no idea whatsoever. They were not repotted. And btw. How do you know if you plant is not rootbound?

And no, baktare666, i did not add water with the nutes, why? is that neccessary? The fertillizer i used it fluent, not powder-like.

This is strange because its only these 3 plants out of 9 plants that are fucked up, as i said, the 6 others are totally doing well.
 
KushLyle

KushLyle

Member
Surely they were healthy before dying. You could not have grown them to that size if they were in the brink of death all throughout from the start of veg. Try to remember what you did differently before you noticed them waning. Only you can tell it
 
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nac

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LEGENDA said:
And no, baktare666, i did not add water with the nutes, why? is that neccessary? The fertillizer i used it fluent, not powder-like.
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I have never heard of any nutes that doesn't need to be mixed with water before use. Usually they come with some instructions, did you check for that?
 
Sandgrouper

Sandgrouper

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That is one of a few things

1. Blown or damaged roots
2. pH lock out either way same shit happens
3. Nutrient poisoned - not mixing, over dose
4. Pests

You cannot veg plants without nutrient, only when germinating can you use no nutrient, then it has to be fed. If you went from no nutrient to say 500ppm plus, then you will have nutrient poisoned them.
 
Spanky's Monkey

Spanky's Monkey

Active Member
It's been said before and I'll say it again. That's some bad nute burn. Next time you should add a little water with your nutes.
 
^su

^su

Active Member
Mix your nutrients with water man, you can't feed them the nutes straight out the bottle.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Yes, you definitely torched them with the undiluted nutes you fed them. Strange the others survived, really.

Best investment you can make to learn from this is the purchase of a Tds or ec meter to check your ppm of all nutrient solutions going on your plants.

Don't listen to the goobers saying you should give up growing, we've all killed a few along the way. Read up a bit now on nutrient requirements of mj at its different life stages and you'll do better next time.
 
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LEGENDA

New Member
Wow, thanks for all ur answers. However you only left me with more questions...

First off, yea i did read the manuals, it did not say anything about mixing it with water before use, but since all you guys are saying that it should, i guess mixing your fertillizer with water was kinda matter of course..

So all you guys got me all confused with ur expressions, what is a so-called "ppm"??

And to you, Sandgrouper, how do check if my plants have any of the following? And can straight and simple tell me what you mean with point 3 and 4?
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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ppm = parts per million. This is the way you compare the relative strength of a nutrient mix since they all have different mixing instructions often geared toward different plants that need more nutrients than mj. There really aren't many products that don't need mixing with water but it is unusual not to have directions on the product that give a recommended dose. With a ppm measuring device, you could measure whatever it is you are using and if it comes out at like 10,000ppm or something crazy high, you would know for sure that it was intended to be mixed with water. I've never measured the ppm of a pure undiluted nutrient mix but imagine it is a big number!
 
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