what node would you top at for mother plants?

medidedicated

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it has like 7 nodes and the first nodes look like theyll never grow big, want to mainline unless i should just top and shave off the tiny first node. any suggestions? planning on cloning a couple or a few times before replacing.
 

medidedicated

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I'd try to get it healthier first.
what about when it does and grows out? i just fixed a couple critical issues that need time to settle in. but was thinking a few weeks from now top down to furst or second node, ive cut to second node in this stage and it was fine that one time, the top few nodes have ok growth even though i mistakenly gave way too much nutes
 

go go kid

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i all de4pends on what your looking for., you can cut it at any node. each node will produce two branches. so your looking at two branches at each node after you cut it.
 

Billytheluther

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It doesn’t look like you care too much about keeping it small, if so just make some healthy upper leaf and then top to get a bit more tops and side branches the bottom will more than likely shrivel up and di on there own
 

medidedicated

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what about when it does and grows out? i just fixed a couple critical issues that need time to settle in. but was thinking a few weeks from now top down to furst or second node, ive cut to second node in this stage and it was fine that one time, the top few nodes have ok growth even though i mistakenly gave way too much nutes
It doesn’t look like you care too much about keeping it small, if so just make some healthy upper leaf and then top to get a bit more tops and side branches the bottom will more than likely shrivel up and di on there own
was thinking that and for flowering clones or seeds was going to try this here below or is this overkill for a plant intending to yield 1.5 ozs ? would you in that case do what you just said but for flowering as well? looking to do 300w mars hydro led for 2 plants in a 3x2 space to work my way up with expirience and perpetuating to get there faster
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medidedicated

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i all de4pends on what your looking for., you can cut it at any node. each node will produce two branches. so your looking at two branches at each node after you cut it.
looking for a good cloning setup and flowering setup for 1.5 oz a plant with as thick colas as possible and none of the small waste of energy stems growing out of the first or second node that doesnt become anything significant but want a flat canopy with 5 or more colas, how many colas you think i need for 1.5oz? not sure what buds will look like with 300w leds but should be getting 1.5oz a plant at some point is what im aiming for
 

Billytheluther

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was thinking that and for flowering clones or seeds was going to try this here below or is this overkill for a plant intending to yield 1.5 ozs ? would you in that case do what you just said but for flowering as well? looking to do 300w mars hydro led for 2 plants in a 3x2 space to work my way up with expirience and perpetuating to get there faster
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1.5 is pretty easy to yield, definitely top at least twice i usally top around the 5th node and ehen the bottom. Odes catch up i end up with around 6 maybe 8 similar sized shoots.
Then tie them down a bit to keep everything even.
I dont remove everything like in that picture you posted, i feel thats bad because if you run into nutrient issues or lock outs you have very little leaf mater to keep the plant alive, imagine half of that dies.. your plant probably won’t make it.
What nutriewill you be running whats the medium
 

rmax

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The way you topped you'll get two main stalks. Once you top those two main stalks you'll have four, and so on and so on... like an inverse pyramid.
 

medidedicated

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1.5 is pretty easy to yield, definitely top at least twice i usally top around the 5th node and ehen the bottom. Odes catch up i end up with around 6 maybe 8 similar sized shoots.
Then tie them down a bit to keep everything even.
I dont remove everything like in that picture you posted, i feel thats bad because if you run into nutrient issues or lock outs you have very little leaf mater to keep the plant alive, imagine half of that dies.. your plant probably won’t make it.
What nutriewill you be running whats the medium
following a gerneral hydroponics coco perlite medium that after 5 gals you start putting 50% perlite, but 5 gal and under i think it says you put less and less perlite for root space since the pot is small at 5 gal and down, so they are about 40% the other looks like 50% cause i was new to preparing coco and followed dry weight and ended up with waay less but started following the wet portion (put 4gal portioned out first) before buffering and adding perlite. just mentioning incase this is another misrake. i use just calmag and flora trio for nutes for now and misused my ec meter but corrected that yesterday basically was feeding twice as much by error but giving them .8 EC now until they get closer to flowering. the leaves are perked up like theyre finally drinking lol but mistakes to the side thats my medium and may add supplements that are rational to add and not just hype. silica, rapid root.
 

Billytheluther

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following a gerneral hydroponics coco perlite medium that after 5 gals you start putting 50% perlite, but 5 gal and under i think it says you put less and less perlite for root space since the pot is small at 5 gal and down, so they are about 40% the other looks like 50% cause i was new to preparing coco and followed dry weight and ended up with waay less but started following the wet portion (put 4gal portioned out first) before buffering and adding perlite. just mentioning incase this is another misrake. i use just calmag and flora trio for nutes for now and misused my ec meter but corrected that yesterday basically was feeding twice as much by error but giving them .8 EC now until they get closer to flowering. the leaves are perked up like theyre finally drinking lol but mistakes to the side thats my medium and may add supplements that are rational to add and not just hype. silica, rapid root.
Nice, have you seen anything on hempy buckets? Thats how i grew for a while using flora trio and calmag, you can grow in straight perlite using that method and you wont run in to reor problems
 

medidedicated

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Nice, have you seen anything on hempy buckets? Thats how i grew for a while using flora trio and calmag, you can grow in straight perlite using that method and you wont run in to reor problems
oh wow okay so i guess it isnt bad to have too much perlite maybe straight coco is what people had concerns with that need appropriate set of rules for it, maybe not. but thats awesome i never seen that lol i do like with the regular hydro coco setup that the roots clench onto the medium making transplanting easy, thats only thing i still wonder about if it will crumble which probably isnt bad either if u work quickly and plant carefully. this reminds me of what i also want to do asap for pure fun, a space bucket!! still figuring out how to get the right led chips and what ones can be inches close to buds i read you easily can get a couple OZs that way with like 100-200w led strips.
 
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