Where can I get my growing license?

I live in CA and I don't have a medical card. I don't really want one, either. What I would like is to get a caregiver's license. Does anyone know where I would go to get one of these, and also, would I be forced to get a medical card for myself prior to growing for other patients?

Thats A Good Question. Let Me Know If You Find Out.

yea I have checked online and no one has been an help here. I guess its off to finding te know-it-all in the neighborhood. I'll let ya know when I get word on the matter.

There is no such thing, my friend, without a prescription, and furthermore, due to a referendum in Los Angeles and many other CA counties, no new caregiver clubs can be opened until next fall, or later if deemed necessary to create the regulatory laws surrounding cannabis clubs in California. Northern Cali is a bit different in some cases, but it is all SB 420.
What you are asking is if you can open up a store, basically. THe Caregiver clause in SB420 is tricky, and unless you can legally possess it under a doctor's advice, you can't go near it.

Sorry. I tried doing that before I got my script. I'm totally legal now, and honestly, really neurotic about knowing the laws as they change. I could help if you needed any further questions about the bill. I WILL NOT tell you how to convince a doc you are sick if you are not. I really believe in Medical marijuana because it really helps a lot of sick people. Google SB420, read it a few times, be honest, and spend the money on a doctor's visit. It's not as big a deal as it sounds, and under HIPAA and the Medical Privacy Act of 1974, there cannot exist a legitimate database that the government can read whenever they want involving any drug you take under the State medical licensing Committee . Even under the Patriot Act, they cannot touch your medical records without a really, really, really good reason.

Don't forget, you're in California. You are welcome here, and the State protects it own. Oregon is about to legalize, and the entire fight is MUCH closer to being won on our side than the average person thinks. The only thing we are missing is cooler heads in the Federal government.

A recent shop here in sacramento was raided by the DEA and got a hold of the clubs computer with all the patients visit info and everything ...i never went to that club but ive been to others im just worried if another raid goes on theyll have my name on the computer.do they monitor what u buy? or what

UncleSunny said:

I WILL NOT tell you how to convince a doc you are sick if you are not

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I have respect for your willingness to even consider helping me. Free advice is something I'm not even used to. Let me be clear in saying that I would not even be interested in lying to get a script. If I was, I CERTAINLY wouldn't need to ask such questions online. It seems as if some of the most brilliant gardeners out there just lack common sense, let alone business sense. I am consistently surprised by not only the amount of people who are willing to take advantage of the prescription system, but also just how blatantly foolish and indiscreet some of these people are with their words and actions. Bottom line, I TOTALLY qualify for a prescription, but I don't want one because it could backfire. I understand what you are saying about privacy. The 4th amendment is pretty solid, but the patriot act is pretty intrusive. Police rarely follow the constitution when they KNOW whats going on, in terms of operation. In terms of future background searches, they will find ANY I mean ANY reason to refuse you a handgun in CA. Thats one of my concerns. Maby Ron Paul can change that.

Wow, you just asked a really, really big question. Marijuana is a legal, and illegal substance, depending on who's holding the handcuffs. The U.S. Constitution makes it so that States have the right to decree their own specific laws, as long as they are not against any existing Constitutional law. There is only one law in the Constitution against the consumption of any particular substance, and it was repealed by a later amendment.

However, for, um, various reasons, in 1970, Congress created the Controlled Substance Act, making Marijuana, along with Heroin, Cocaine and Meth Amphetamine, a schedule 1 drug--(A) The drug or other substance has high potential for abuse.(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision. This remains the Federal governments firm stance on Marijuana--there was a federal medical marijuana initiative, and there are still, (either 7 or 12, forgive me, I'm high) people who get weed from from Uncle Sam, but that is another story.--

However, the battle is being waged, and California passed both a popular vote(initative 215) and a Senate vote (SB420)to legalize Medical Marijuana here, in our borders. There are really some serious legal battles in our favor against the Department of Health and Human Services, the FDA and State Senates all over the country. It is a difficult battle, but IMHO, the argument against full legalization of Pot have consisted of a "drugs are bad, m'kay" mantra that will eventually be beaten down by proven medical research and sociocultural studies. Weed is good, or at least not as bad as stuff like booze, Compazine, or Prozac.
The History of the banning marijuana in the US is a very interesting story, full of neat conspiracy nut angles, if you wanna lean that way, but a story fascinating enough to rival the Tommy gun days of Prohibition. But I digress.

To answer your question, there are a lot of possible reasons that club in Sacramento got busted, but honestly, been dealing with personal shit these days and haven't been following, so I don't know. Why a lot of club I have read about get busted is that the "Caregiver" status that these cannabis clubs operate under have a great deal of regulations to maintain, one of the biggest is keeping a Non-Profit status. They can't make money, and figuring out how to pay the rent and keeping the bottom line at zero is not something the average pot smoker can master unless they really dot every i and crossed every T. Beside, how they get their pot is about as fair as the competency test Gypsies had to take under Third Reich psychiatrists.

The Feds want this to fail, and many clubs get busted, ironically, on the same day the laws being broken have been written.
As for the reality of your name being in the computer, these are medical records, under State law, and are inadmissible in court. If you are someone who smokes about a few grams a week, privately in your home, what does the DEA want with you? The entire goal of the DEA is to justify their funding by dramatic busts on the news that the current administration can use to show that they are "tough on them thar' drugs."
They've made a few mistakes in the past.
Basically, if you don't feel comfortable being a patient and you can grow your own, go for it and screw the $150 the charge to sign your permission form. I'm just an old guy who has found that pot works for what ails me. I do it under the law because I believe that that law should be there for sick people who need it. I don't begrudge anyone for doing it illegally--I think it is a dumb law. I'm just older and found true love so I don't wanna get busted.

Sorry for the ramble. Believe it or not, I'm incredibly stoned, and a bit verbose at times. Welcome to roll it up. Peace.

ok koo i dont care if the feds know i smoke or if i have my card i was worried cuz i bought alot of clones last sspring and i just thought the DEA just wanted to bust the growers because growing is a federal offense .and i dont bud from clubs because i buy an ounce every week and i thought it wouldve drawn attention but now i know i dont have nothing to worry about thanks for the info!

Thanks for all the info.
I my self have a card. My question was more to the amount of plants that you can have growing at one time-12- I have herd that if you have a different type of card you are able to grow more. I don't know if this is true. But they have to be able to get all that med. from some where.

Yea in most counties it is 6 immature and 6 mature plants, plus a couple ounces on hand is fine. A grower's card can legally allow you up to 99 plants in certain...ahem...notoriously pro-toke counties.

threatlevelorange said:

Yea in most counties it is 6 immature and 6 mature plants, plus a couple ounces on hand is fine. A grower's card can legally allow you up to 99 plants in certain...ahem...notoriously pro-toke counties.

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Yup, those are the numbers where I am. The cool thing is that my wife is a patient as well, so we can have twice that amount, although I'm happy just with small grows, so I can give each plant the TLC it needs to give me the best THC it can make. In SoCal, you can have up to 8 ounces of dried flower, as well as 6 immature,6 mature. Not sure what I'd do with a half pound of pot, but I'd love to get the chance to find out.

smoke it..... bong it..... eat it.... wash with it when we get kilos I love just sinking my arms and hands right to the bottom of the bag so my arms are covered in bud 1000 G's of the shit lol best thing also bout getting it in the big amounts you can have all the big consiour buds to yourself instead of breaking em up into little nugz

well I'm free from 12 to 12 just putting that out there. I will bring the brownie mix

So if I get my med card, where would I go for my caretakers card?

threatlevelorange said:

So if I get my med card, where would I go for my caretakers card?

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I'm gonna stop you right here, friend. The particular laws vary from area to area. However, I think you are completely misunderstanding the current situation with Caregiver status. The current Attorney General of California, Dan Lungren, is trying desperately to pull the weed from our fingers and shut down the clubs. There are tax laws and status that you must follow to the letter, and you must constantly follow the changing laws, because these law makers are constantly following you. If you end up making a single penny over the top of your costs, you go to jail.
Right now, in Los Angeles as well as other areas, they have put a stop on any new caregiver shops being opened until September of 2008.

Please Threat, listen to me. I don't want to sound like I'm being a dick or anything, but what you want to do is play with fire. I'm not saying it's impossible to become a Caregiver, if that really is a dream you have, but if you are going to do it, you should be researching every angle, not asking a bunch of smokers on a message board.
Like I said, I hope you don't think I'm being rude here, but it's true. Being a Caregiver is a huge responsibility, and you have to have a good head for business and numbers. For one, how do you get around paying Federal Tax for a product banned by the Federal Government? You don't pay your taxes, they put you in jail. If you fill out a tax form for selling pot, they can put you in jail.

Really dude, my humble advice is to forget about the caregiver thing, whoever explained it to you really did not know what they were talking about.

This is what you can do. If you really want to work in a pot store, get your script and go out begging for a job at one of the current stores. I mean, you wouldn't try to do a 50,000 sq. ft warehouse hydroponic grow your first time you plant a crop, would you? Get your script, learn the rules and READ, READ, READ. You will be much better served with a Google search than from leaving a thread on this site. Read the laws and get active in Norml and the ASA.
Figure out the local laws in your area, and then try to get together with another patient. For example, my wife is a patient, so we can grow 12 immature plants, 12 mature plants, and have up to a pound of marijuana in our home at one time. If I had a friend move in, it would be 18/18 and a pound and a half...get it? it's called a collective, and although certain areas give collectives a hard time, they are legal.

What do you need more than a half a pound of weed for anyway, unless you wanna sell? I've said that I have no problem with people smoking illegally, but I DO have a problem with people who buy from clubs and sell to non-patients. When they get busted, the whole program looks like a scam.

Just think about what you want, and why you want it. Being a Caregiver is a difficult and very risky thing to do.That's all I'm trying to say.

you dont need a card the person applying for a card puts you down as a primary caregiver to help them with the process of helping them with there medication

choppers4life said:

you dont need a card the person applying for a card puts you down as a primary caregiver to help them with the process of helping them with there medication

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Ooooooooh. Interesting. But you still need a med card to have it in your house to being with? This is kind of one of those sketchy legal questions I know but I am reiterating the question just to make sure I am on the same page as the law.

Very good information UncleSunny. You were not rude at all.

This is very good information. thanks guys-

I love my marijuana growers card. Without it i wouldt be able to grow the marijuana that i love. All those nights when i cant go to sleep i can thank the marijuana license and smoke legally to help me get the sleep i couldt normally get. It also makes my messed up knees feel alot better after a hard days of work.