which myco product is better great white or white widow?'s ?'s?'s

mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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Which stuff is better for dwc? Great white or Humbolts white widow? not really worried about the price.

The white shark has a 10000+ count of endo myco and the great white is a 50- count of endo but is also has ecto and the bacillus as the white widow does not it only had the endo but way more of it. Humbolt says its ideal for hydro because it dosnt have the bacteria bacillus? Is this true?

I have them both but am still in the early stages w/ the white widow and cant tell much of a difference except the great white seems to be less stringy roots and more colonized. But in my experience you cant see the mycos work for a couple weeks. I have also tried gh 2 part myco and bacillus and did not like at all. It didnt even compare to the great white for some reason.

Does anyone else have experience with these products? Which would be better to use with heins tea? Or should I use them together? (will be the next experiment anyway) I have never tried the tea just because it seems like just more things for me to do...Ie ie ie. But I think im a try it soon also. Any input on any of these products would be greatly appreciated!
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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I love this fourm...im constantly helping others and after 17 views no one even has a response. And this is not the first time. Seems every time I ask a fing question I get nothing. You guys are great! Thanks a bunch!

Im starting to think this place is just filled with newbs that dont even know what im talking about half the time. I think I need to find a new forum you guys blow. And even funnier I bet this post will get a response because seems here everyone is eager to argue instead of helping others which is what a forum is for.
 
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boneheadbob

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I grow in soil and I have never used either product so I did not reply after initial viewing.
Instead of calling everyone out for not being the big helper you are, why dont you just bump the thread with questions or examples you may have found on other sites while waiting for answers?

This is something most children are taught at a young age, patience and kindness to others. Some children learn, some ignore untill later in life and some children go all through life without maturing into a civil human being.

Good luck :peace:

PS I only mentioned this because you sound like a crybaby in second post:sad:
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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boneheadbob said:
I grow in soil and I have never used either product so I did not reply after initial viewing.
Instead of calling everyone out for not being the big helper you are, why dont you just bump the thread with questions or examples you may have found on other sites while waiting for answers?

This is something most children are taught at a young age, patience and kindness to others. Some children learn, some ignore untill later in life and some children go all through life without maturing into a civil human being.

Good luck :peace:

PS I only mentioned this because you sound like a crybaby in second post:sad:
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lmfao there you auguring a holes are I new that someone wouldnt be able to resist being a jerk. And It only took me being one to get a response.. why is that? I have no idea but it worked. And if you grow is soil BONEHEAD then get off the dwc section der d der.

Thanks victorygarden for your input! Ill be sure to check it out.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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mr. green thumb 01 said:
Which stuff is better for dwc? Great white or Humbolts white widow? not really worried about the price.

The white shark has a 10000+ count of endo myco and the great white is a 50- count of endo but is also has ecto and the bacillus as the white widow does not it only had the endo but way more of it. Humbolt says its ideal for hydro because it dosnt have the bacteria bacillus? Is this true?

I have them both but am still in the early stages w/ the white widow and cant tell much of a difference except the great white seems to be less stringy roots and more colonized. But in my experience you cant see the mycos work for a couple weeks. I have also tried gh 2 part myco and bacillus and did not like at all. It didnt even compare to the great white for some reason.

Does anyone else have experience with these products? Which would be better to use with heins tea? Or should I use them together? (will be the next experiment anyway) I have never tried the tea just because it seems like just more things for me to do...Ie ie ie. But I think im a try it soon also. Any input on any of these products would be greatly appreciated!
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I read your post....I know what great white is...I don't know about the other product.....I read on here that people make the tea with great white...I have used it....I don't have an opinion if ones better than the other...

Do you have plant problems right now or are you just doing preventive matenince...
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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preventive maintenance. I have had root problems before and the great white cured it. W/out a myco product in my res I usually end up with a slime so I always use them but I just want the best. And the tea like I said just seams like more stuff fore me to do...another bubbling bucket 48hr the brew the process the space the storage it all seams like a hassle.

Thanks stak they sound good now I just gotta get through all this white widow I have lol
 
blimey

blimey

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mr. green thumb 01 said:
lmfao there you auguring a holes are I new that someone wouldnt be able to resist being a jerk. And It only took me being one to get a response.. why is that? I have no idea but it worked. And if you grow is soil BONEHEAD then get off the dwc section der d der.

Thanks victorygarden for your input! Ill be sure to check it out.
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Wow you are unintelligent. If your a jerk, people will be a jerk to you. Your asking a specific question about two different brands in a specific set up, a lot of people don't have experience with it. Your post doesn't just show up in the dwc section. It's called new posts! der d der.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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If using great white directly in the res works for you, and the tea is too much hassle, then stick with that. In DWC It really doesn't matter which product you use, IOW no need to worry about if one has more or different microbes than the other. Mycos are more important than bacillus, but I have never heard of the bacillus causing problems in a DWC.

I have never tried the GH microbe products. What did you not like about them?
 
alotaball

alotaball

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I love this fourm...im constantly helping others and after 17 views no one even has a response. And this is not the first time. Seems every time I ask a fing question I get nothing. You guys are great! Thanks a bunch!

Im starting to think this place is just filled with newbs that dont even know what im talking about half the time. I think I need to find a new forum you guys blow. And even funnier I bet this post will get a response because seems here everyone is eager to argue instead of helping others which is what a forum is for.
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YOu need a hug !
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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the subculture b seemed to work fine but I swear everytime I added the M slim went crazy I dont know if its the kelp meal from ascophyllum nodosum or the humic acid from leonardite but my res wasnt liking something that stuff had. Do mycos expire in the package? Maybe I will try the sub B for my bacillius and white widow for myco because it dosnt have the ecto myco which it not useful in our application correct? I tried to get the EWC just to try the tea but couldnt find the ancient forest jus some bs reg ewc and if I do it im a do it right. Plus the aquashield the guy had at my store was over yr n a half old and it says it only last for a year so I just passed. And im not really worried about the $ just simplicity and effectiveness.
 
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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mr. green thumb 01 said:
the subculture b seemed to work fine but I swear everytime I added the M slim went crazy I dont know if its the kelp meal from ascophyllum nodosum or the humic acid from leonardite but my res wasnt liking something that stuff had. Do mycos expire in the package? Maybe I will try the sub B for my bacillius and white widow for myco because it dosnt have the ecto myco which it not useful in our application correct? I tried to get the EWC just to try the tea but couldnt find the ancient forest jus some bs reg ewc and if I do it im a do it right. Plus the aquashield the guy had at my store was over yr n a half old and it says it only last for a year so I just passed. And im not really worried about the $ just simplicity and effectiveness.
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I know plant success has expiration dates
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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mr. green thumb 01 said:
the subculture b seemed to work fine but I swear everytime I added the M slim went crazy I dont know if its the kelp meal from ascophyllum nodosum or the humic acid from leonardite but my res wasnt liking something that stuff had. Do mycos expire in the package? Maybe I will try the sub B for my bacillius and white widow for myco because it dosnt have the ecto myco which it not useful in our application correct? I tried to get the EWC just to try the tea but couldnt find the ancient forest jus some bs reg ewc and if I do it im a do it right. Plus the aquashield the guy had at my store was over yr n a half old and it says it only last for a year so I just passed. And im not really worried about the $ just simplicity and effectiveness.
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I have heard similar complaints about the sub-m from GH, although not recently. One advantage of the tea is that all those materials which are meant to be 'food' for the microbes get completely broken down before going into the res, which prevents the slime from eating it first. You are correct that ectomycorrhizae does not benefit cannabis, however in DWC that fact is negligible. In soil there is concern that the ectos might displace the endos, but main reason to add microbes to a DWC is to displace harmful slime, so we do not care which type of fungus achieves this. (remember they both compete with trichoderma, which is much more aggressive) There is no real benefit from tailoring your microbes in DWC, so long as they keep away slime and stimulate the roots. Diversity is the key.
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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the tea is not a food source tea but a beneficial organism tea specifically designed for multiplying the bennies.

What makes myco only 20% water soluble? I violently shake my mix and everything gets mixed into the water

If mycos dont work in the water then how have they benefited me 10 fold since applying them in a dwc WATER? Literally the root ball is comparable w/ bennies which in turn means larger yields healthier plants and faster growth.

No matter how healthy your plants are there is still a rule of thumb that is basically the bigger your roots the bigger your plant the bigger the yield. And we all like big yields.
 
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stak

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stick with the Great White. It's the most expensive and since you like wasting money it will get you there the fastest.
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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stak said:
stick with the Great White. It's the most expensive and since you like wasting money it will get you there the fastest.
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obviously you realized your last post was also incorrect and that is why you have removed it lmfao!!!!

you know...the one saying how myco is no good in water/tea and how its only 20% solouble ahhhahahah and how blah blah blah i know everything and now sound retarded lmao I knew I should have quoted that
 
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stak

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my posts were 100% accurate. I removed them after reading through some of your other posts and realized the type of person that you are. I have no desire to help anyone like you.
 
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