Wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF is life huh? Just WTF is it? What makes us living and not a rock? Why the hell does life even exist? Why was energy even here to begin with (isn't energy what caused the big bang?), there was no survival mode for the universe....so why did it blow up and create everything over time? What was the universes intention?

Why do people think they're are superior than other humans and animals? We are nothing but energy (not spiritual energy) on earth.

I didn't write this but here ya go tell me what you think....
I have a harsh realistic philosophy. I enjoy it too. I am a atheist, and do not believe in any "super natural power" such as a "God." I know that science has its laws and that we were created by some chemical process. Humans contribute nothing, nor is there anything to contribute too. The universe shouldn't even be here, it does not make any sense. But besides that impossible debate, humans and life itself of all kinds are pointless. We study life and everything, for what? We are born then we die, it is a continuous cycle. So whatever you do in life, it does not matter. Sure it may benefit other humans, but they are going to die too. Who says murder is wrong? There is nothing wrong with it, though society and the human survival technique of fear has led to morals against it. We are simply organisms, just more complex than that roach you killed. Why don't we just go and party 24/7 and enjoy ourselves while we are here? why do that? since we all die and our experiences do not matter since they were just a mental feeling and etc...

basically, life is pointless. Though I admit to being human and with my morals that I have been taught, I can not simply change my ways and career due to my strong feelings toward nothing. Too renegade.

Yup, just thought I would express myself a little.










Alright this is stealthman again.... BTW, there is no point to partying either. Why the hell am I even typing this? Why am I not ending my life? Why aren't you ending yours?

why do people like you join MARIJUANA CULTIVATING forum and spew this religion shit. Seems like there is a new clown in town every 2 weeks. Sheesh get over it go read a bible or something.
Be great if no body fed these freaking abominations.

Maybe I should just be blind and follow a religion for comfort. Maybe I'll start to believe in an afterlife.

And another thing, why do atheists flip out about the harm religious people cause? There's no point to anything so why get so mad?

suTraGrow said:

why do people like you join MARIJUANA CULTIVATING forum and spew this religion shit. Seems like there is a new clown in town every 2 weeks. Sheesh get over it go read a bible or something.
Be great if no body fed these freaking abominations.

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Oh my bad.... I thought we were in the spirituality and philosophy section lol.

Oh shit we are? Oh ok, then I guess you're in the wrong place and my thread belongs here.
You're a fucking dumbass lol.

And why did you say go read a bible? Stop forcing religion on me lol.

stealthman08 said:

Oh my bad.... I thought we were in the spirituality and philosophy section lol.

Oh shit we are? Oh ok, then I guess you're in the wrong place and my thread belongs here.
You're a fucking dumbass lol.

And why did you say go read a bible? Stop forcing religion on me lol.

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you mad bro?

suTraGrow said:

you mad bro?

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Not really lol. I'm just amused by trying to make sense of your post. I mean you automatically get your panties up in a bunch because you assumed I was religious. You crack me up....

I think the issue with your original post, is its full of holes with nothing to back it up. Be it if your a holy rolling bible thumper or atheist, the post made no sense. You say we're all just energy?? Really? Last I checked we were matter. While I do agree that we have no reason (universally) for our existance, we do exist. If your argument is we shouldn't exists so why bother with anything, then why even write and defend your post? Why even contemplate a thought? Just because we don't have an answer as to the why, doesn't mean we shouldnt try to understand why. I usually steer clear of the religious, political threads cause everyone argues instead of debates, their thoughts and beliefs. The whole "I'm right, your wrong. Let's talk about (insert topic here) it, but everyone is wrong less you agree with me" mentality. If yu really feel that strongly, then stop breathing, eating, everything. Save the space for people that believe we are here for a reason, even if we don't know what that reason is.

Honest question, can someone post where the bible says non-believers go to hell?

stealthman08-- are you familiar with Terence McKenna? here is a small clip from one of his lectures you might find interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYB0VW5x8fI

stealthman08 said:

Honest question, can someone post where the bible says non-believers go to hell?

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God will send to hell those who do not believe in him (Revelation 21:8)

Grumpy' said:

I think the issue with your original post, is its full of holes with nothing to back it up. Be it if your a holy rolling bible thumper or atheist, the post made no sense. You say we're all just energy?? Really? Last I checked we were matter. While I do agree that we have no reason (universally) for our existance, we do exist. If your argument is we shouldn't exists so why bother with anything, then why even write and defend your post? Why even contemplate a thought? Just because we don't have an answer as to the why, doesn't mean we shouldnt try to understand why. I usually steer clear of the religious, political threads cause everyone argues instead of debates, their thoughts and beliefs. The whole "I'm right, your wrong. Let's talk about (insert topic here) it, but everyone is wrong less you agree with me" mentality. If yu really feel that strongly, then stop breathing, eating, everything. Save the space for people that believe we are here for a reason, even if we don't know what that reason is.

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Our energy is passed onto the next living creature.

What other holes are there?

What do I need to back up? I'm asking questions, I'm not telling facts.

So why is it ok for you to ask me "why bother with anything?" but not vice versa?
When I asked that question you assumed I didn't care to find the answer. So should I assume you believe life is pointless since you asked the same question I asked?

Do you understand why people ask questions? I may not answer for everyone, but I ask questions to discover new things. So since I asked questions, I agree with you about learning the answers to my questions. I was just asking to see everyone's insight on my questions....not the bitching you displayed.

Do you care to answer any of my questions? If the answer is no, then why are you here?

I'm not sure what set you off (lol), but why are you telling me about people's mindset on arguing and not hearing the other persons side? I WILL listen to somebody that actually has something to say (unlike you).

Why would I kill myself when you just finished saying we should figure out the point of life?

What was the point of your post?


Why do you even have the slightest sliver of thought we are here for a reason?


Oh and stop being so grumpy lol.

CinnamonGirl said:

stealthman08-- are you familiar with Terence McKenna? here is a small clip from one of his lectures you might find interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYB0VW5x8fI

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Thanks, I'll watch it later when I get on my pc, .

lime73 said:

God will send to hell those who do not believe in him (Revelation 21:8)

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So if someone can't honestly believe in god, they go to hell? How fucked up is that?

Another question, did god say that or just one of jesus' disciples?

Life is nothing more than a completely random chain of events....and god only exists in the minds of the foolish and weak.......

stealthman08 said:

Honest question, can someone post where the bible says non-believers go to hell?

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not going into it further, but this is the verse that comes to mind first...

John 14:6
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.



on another note, and then I will leave this thread to never return...

Do atheists exist?
An atheist is a person who believes without a doubt that God does not exist...
To know that God does not exist, one would require infinite knowledge...
To have infinite knowledge, one would have to be a divine being (God)..
therefore, atheists cannot be a divine being since they do not believe in it...
confused much?

watchhowIdoit said:

Life is nothing more than a completely random chain of events....

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Hmmmm nice philosophy.

No offense, but what keeps you from killing yourself?

For some reason I feel like something is holding me back from killing myself. Maybe it's my friends and family. I'm not trying to influence you to kill yourself, it's just a question, .

stealthman08 said:

So if someone can't honestly believe in god, they go to hell? How fucked up is that?

Another question, did god say that or just one of jesus' disciples?

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that book was written by a Prophet. All the scriptures were penned by men, inspired by God.

Go ahead a stick an ice pick in your ear stealthman08. I really could care less. I enjoy the excitement of what will randomly happen next so I'll stick around. I will even shit on your grave if you like.......

becorath said:

not going into it further, but this is the verse that comes to mind first...

John 14:6
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.



on another note, and then I will leave this thread to never return...

Do atheists exist?
An atheist is a person who believes without a doubt that God does not exist...
To know that God does not exist, one would require infinite knowledge...
To have infinite knowledge, one would have to be a divine being (God)..
therefore, atheists cannot be a divine being since they do not believe in it...
confused much?

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Atheists lack belief in god, they don't claim to know for a fact god doesn't exist.

And I've thought about that passage before. This is what I came up with....

"no one comes to the father except through me"
What was jesus' purpose? To be sacrificed for our sins.
If he wasn't sacrificed, nobody would be able to see the father.
So yes, humans needed jesus' sacrifice (which requires jesus' help obviously)... But it doesn't mean we need to believe in Jesus to be with our father.

It's cool man, you don't have to run away. Stick around, .

watchhowIdoit said:

Go ahead a stick an ice pick in your ear stealthman08. I really could care less. I enjoy the excitement of what will randomly happen next so I'll stick around. I will even shit on your grave if you like.......

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why are you being so mean? I meant no harm towards you. But now you can go fuck yourself asshole. Your existence is worthless, you have no reason to live. You can say whatever comes next excites you, but it still holds no purpose. After death, the excitements you once held in your memory, will all be gone.