Butane is going to kill you guys!

chuck estevez

Well-Known Member
The chemical poison of which he speaks is Killoxin. Killoxin is a synthetic toxin which is odourless, tasteless and cannot be detected with gas chromatagraph or any other scientific equipment. It is produced by any process which involves technology more advanced than wood, stone or ISO. Symptoms of poisioning range from death to posting things online which make no logical sense. Your phone for example has residual killoxin as does your computer and keyboard. Over a period of 60 to 80 years exposure to killoxin can cause wrinkles, skin blemishes, and pre-mature aging. Killoxin can be produced by any weed extraction process that doesn't natural ingredients. For example, bubble bags, being made in a factory from chemicals can give off killoxin. The only safe method is to use ISO because this material is absolutely pure having come from deep underground and never having touched a factory or other technology other than being bottled by elves.
i was headed to google until I read the 2ncd sentence,lmfao
 

AltarNation

Well-Known Member
The chemical poison of which he speaks is Killoxin. Killoxin is a synthetic toxin which is odourless, tasteless and cannot be detected with gas chromatagraph or any other scientific equipment. It is produced by any process which involves technology more advanced than wood, stone or ISO. Symptoms of poisioning range from death to posting things online which make no logical sense. Your phone for example has residual killoxin as does your computer and keyboard. Over a period of 60 to 80 years exposure to killoxin can cause wrinkles, skin blemishes, and pre-mature aging. Killoxin can be produced by any weed extraction process that doesn't natural ingredients. For example, bubble bags, being made in a factory from chemicals can give off killoxin. The only safe method is to use ISO because this material is absolutely pure having come from deep underground and never having touched a factory or other technology other than being bottled by elves.

Bravo good sir!
 

Dan Kone

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N-Butane is very toxic, however if you vacuum purge you product, the butane will be (almost) completely removed... But guess what! the canning process EVERYONE uses to put the butane in the can is also highly toxic and it is inevitable unless you pay nearly 200 dollars or more for a small 8 oz can of food grade N-Butane in an expensive laboratory canister.
If n-butane is "very toxic" how come the center for disease control says it's non-toxic? Are they involved in some sort of conspiracy with concentrate makes?

I am an apprentice organic chemist,
No your not. You're some dude who repeats fictional gossip on the internet. Get a grip buddy.

However i know how to make really good oil using ethanol or isopropyl.
Ahhh. So butane = deadly poison but isopropyl alcohol = health food! Awesome. lol. You just failed very hard at being an "apprentice organic chemist".

I wouldn't have taken the time to create an account on this website unless i truly knew that N-Butane is horrible for hash oil!
Then you shouldn't have created an account.

http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+944

The acute toxicity of n-butane has been studied after inhalation exposure in experimental animals. LC50 (4h) was 658 mg/l in rat
According to nih.gov you'd have to give a rat more than two cans of butane to inhale for it to become toxic. A rat is much smaller than that quantity of butane.

Unless you're drinking your body weight in butane, you'll be fine.

Can anyone here do their body weight in dabs in a day? Seems like that would be an expensive endevor. If you are doing your body weight in dabs everyday, seek help.

. There are reports EVERYWHERE
I noticed you didn't link any of these reports. So where are they? You're making a lot of claims. Prove it or shut the fuck up.

but i know nearly nothing about organic chemistry
The only true thing in your whole fucking post. You'd think before going on this crusade you'd actually, you know, look up a credible source to see if what you're saying is true.

your all going to be kicking yourselves for smoking butane wax or hash oil.
Well I talked to a real organic chemist, a doctorate from Berkeley, and he says vaporizing bho is better for you than smoking buds.

In conclusion, your post is bad, and you should feel bad.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
i think people been smoking BHO for 30+ years.. anddd. still smoking...
Also, there is more butane in a bong hit from a bic lighter than even completely unpurged bho. People have been using bic lighters since the 60's and it seems to be working out ok.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
The chemical poison of which he speaks is Killoxin. Killoxin is a synthetic toxin which is odourless, tasteless and cannot be detected with gas chromatagraph or any other scientific equipment. It is produced by any process which involves technology more advanced than wood, stone or ISO. Symptoms of poisioning range from death to posting things online which make no logical sense. Your phone for example has residual killoxin as does your computer and keyboard. Over a period of 60 to 80 years exposure to killoxin can cause wrinkles, skin blemishes, and pre-mature aging. Killoxin can be produced by any weed extraction process that doesn't natural ingredients. For example, bubble bags, being made in a factory from chemicals can give off killoxin. The only safe method is to use ISO because this material is absolutely pure having come from deep underground and never having touched a factory or other technology other than being bottled by elves.
OMG. I had a big long response all typed out that was filled with nerd-rage. You had me right up until the end of the last sentence. Well done. You sir are a trolling god
 

Puma327

Member
We extract several different ways, including with 190 proof ethanol. We do so on frozen dried material, and I don't recommend using less than 95% ethanol, because the water will wash away the water soluble chlorophyll binding proteins, exposing more of the chlorophyll to the alcohol.

That makes sense. I guess I could save up some of the higher proof over several still runs. What are the ethanol / pot ratios used? In other words how much hooch do I need to make? Thanks for the response, and puting up with my ignorance.
 

Fadedawg

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That makes sense. I guess I could save up some of the higher proof over several still runs. What are the ethanol / pot ratios used? In other words how much hooch do I need to make? Thanks for the response, and puting up with my ignorance.
We break the material into small chunks and lightly pack them into the extraction container to about 3/4 full, and then fill the jar to about an inch of the lid with ethanol. 3/4 gallon of material and what ever space is left for alcohol.
 

dieselhound

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Picked up a oven vac which is the only true safe guard against the perils of using butane-IMO. So, save yourself. We will all keep on tokin up.
 

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dirtyhippy420

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BUTANE OIL CAN KILL YOU!!! Any over use or abuse of smoking pot. Born in Seattle raised in Oregon master grower, hash and oil maker of all types with 3 trips to Amsterdam. In my prime I could smoke any of you under the table(was known for taking 1g knife hits and 6ft bong hits in 1 pull) I LOVE POT but, I can't smoke it anymore :-( because I screwed up my lungs. I smoked 1\8 to a 1/2oz of dank and hash a day, most of it had a THC % of 20% or more.I Started when I was 15 I'm now 35 and I have Pleurisy caused by Chronic Bronchial Pneumonia with massive scaring of the lungs caused by smoking pot no cigarettes. I have half the lung capacity I used to and am and a high risk for Lung Cancer. THC is an oil smoking any oil of this type is horrid for your lungs. Please! Please! Moderation is the key with what ever you do smoke only enough to get yourself high and, maybe if your lucky you wont have to quit something you love to keep yourself alive!
 

midnitetoak

Active Member
BUTANE OIL CAN KILL YOU!!! Any over use or abuse of smoking pot. Born in Seattle raised in Oregon master grower, hash and oil maker of all types with 3 trips to Amsterdam. In my prime I could smoke any of you under the table(was known for taking 1g knife hits and 6ft bong hits in 1 pull) I LOVE POT but, I can't smoke it anymore :-( because I screwed up my lungs. I smoked 1\8 to a 1/2oz of dank and hash a day, most of it had a THC % of 20% or more.I Started when I was 15 I'm now 35 and I have Pleurisy caused by Chronic Bronchial Pneumonia with massive scaring of the lungs caused by smoking pot no cigarettes. I have half the lung capacity I used to and am and a high risk for Lung Cancer. THC is an oil smoking any oil of this type is horrid for your lungs. Please! Please! Moderation is the key with what ever you do smoke only enough to get yourself high and, maybe if your lucky you wont have to quit something you love to keep yourself alive!
The expert opinion of a master hash oil maker & grower with one single post on RIU...
 

jason1976

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people also get cancer from breathing concrete dust, abundant fluoride use,sanding almost anything,ect. bho isn't the cleanest way to do it, I still wax the fux up as much as I can. ive done alcohol hash,bubble hash,bho, shatter, they all got me high. and were all gonna die of something one day anyway. live happy,be happy while your living. smile and dab out!
 

Dannoo93

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Im done with dabs im gonna start making dryice/bubblebag hash and try to dab that dabs had me coughin up a lil blood

Dannoo93
 

midnitetoak

Active Member
Im done with dabs im gonna start making dryice/bubblebag hash and try to dab that dabs had me coughin up a lil blood

Dannoo93
Tried making full melt several times... Came fairly close to full melt & it was dabbable but left a residue on the nail... Tastes great but with the limited amount of trims I produce in my tiny grow it's hardly worth the effort... If I had pounds of trim laying around my bags would get much more use
 

biglungs

Active Member
BUTANE OIL CAN KILL YOU!!! Any over use or abuse of smoking pot. Born in Seattle raised in Oregon master grower, hash and oil maker of all types with 3 trips to Amsterdam. In my prime I could smoke any of you under the table(was known for taking 1g knife hits and 6ft bong hits in 1 pull) I LOVE POT but, I can't smoke it anymore :-( because I screwed up my lungs. I smoked 1\8 to a 1/2oz of dank and hash a day, most of it had a THC % of 20% or more.I Started when I was 15 I'm now 35 and I have Pleurisy caused by Chronic Bronchial Pneumonia with massive scaring of the lungs caused by smoking pot no cigarettes. I have half the lung capacity I used to and am and a high risk for Lung Cancer. THC is an oil smoking any oil of this type is horrid for your lungs. Please! Please! Moderation is the key with what ever you do smoke only enough to get yourself high and, maybe if your lucky you wont have to quit something you love to keep yourself alive!
born and raised in mendo fuck 3 trips to amsterdam the best shops in the bay and LA have better weed the reason u out smoke ppl is cuz u havent smoked with me ive been smoking as long as u and have ZERO lung problems. i exercise on a regular basis my dr told me last month im in great shape smoke daily dabs dabs and more dabs my uncle is in his 50s and smokes the same way. he swims everyday and competitively yet has no health problems. thanks for joining RIU
 

Milovan

Well-Known Member
Back in the late '70's I used to get 30 vials at a time
of pure honey oil. This shit would tear your lungs out from
the extreme expansion and the high completely ripped your
brains out for a good while. Dark gold and tasted clean as
hell then completely disappeared from L.A. about '84.
Cut to the year 2005 I tried the current BHO and it was nowhere as clean
tasting as the shit back in the day. I don't know what the oil was
made with back in the day but it was cleaner tasting no doubt.
The only thing I could think of that made difference in taste was it
was made with alcohol? I'm just guessing but their has to be something
better tasting to make honey oil with nowadays other then butane?
Effects on my health takes a big back seat to good taste when it
comes to honey oil for me.
Also, anyone remember that shitty tasting weak high jet black hash oil
that was easily obtainable all over L.A. back in '80 - '83? Man, that shit
was rank but tolerable when pure honey oil was scarce at times.
 

mrcryce

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born and raised in mendo fuck 3 trips to amsterdam the best shops in the bay and LA have better weed the reason u out smoke ppl is cuz u havent smoked with me ive been smoking as long as u and have ZERO lung problems. i exercise on a regular basis my dr told me last month im in great shape smoke daily dabs dabs and more dabs my uncle is in his 50s and smokes the same way. he swims everyday and competitively yet has no health problems. thanks for joining RIU
I think his point is moderation is the key. He's a prime example of too much of a good thing being bad.

Also marzfisch forum name should be Learning to Troll.
 
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