To Scrog or Not to Scrog

[Matt420Aus]

I have 2x White widow x skunk #1, 1 sage n sour (fem), 1 darkstar (fem), 1 Northern lights (fem), 2 ice

Pictures below

I'm at week 4 from seed, I know sex is usually showing around 40-50 days (about another 2 weeks of veg).

Nutrients are at about 500ppm

400w MH/HPS

So I'm curious since I have so many plants is it worth just switching to flower now and not bothering with a scrog?

or

Should I wait for sex to show in veg, pull the males and then train the plants into those spaces that have become available before switching to 12/12?

or

Is it worth switching to flower now and training scrog in first 2 weeks while also pulling any males?

I realize I probably filled the space with to many plants but I have seen similar grows with many small plants in a confined space and I am just learning hydro at the moment so just trying to get through to flower and get a decent yield from this grow.

Still want to pull about 6 clones of the sage n sour, 6 of darkstar. Northern lights I may move out to my veg closet DWC as a mother plant if I switch to flower.

If you have experience with scrog and can give me your opinion what you think is best for my grow space and best outcome for yields I would appreciate it.

 

[Matt420Aus]

 

[Matt420Aus]

 

[MariJesus]

I would not force flower so early, due to the fact you could stress the plants into becoming hermies. I would wait until first signs of sex before switching to flower, and then SCROG it up.

 

[MariJesus]

Also, if you are worried about plant height, you can begin LST on your plants, which will help with SCROG when you finally do flower. This personally I believe would be the best method. Start training LST on them now, while they are still vegging, then at first signs of sex, pull the males, and begin your SCROG.

 

[Matt420Aus]

Already started training the two white widow plants as they are the first from seed and the biggest, I have been LST them into spaces I want them to go.

 

[MariJesus]

Already started training the two white widow plants as they are the first from seed and the biggest, I have been LST them into spaces I want them to go.

I would continue with LST as you are doing. As I said above, don't trigger too early or you risk hermies, and then your crop becomes worthless.

 

[WeedFreak78]

I'm pretty sure plant don't show sex before flowering they can show "preflowers", but i don't believe you can determine sex by those. Plants are generally considered mature enough for lowering when they start producing alternating nodes, meaning branches don't form in parallel pairs but alternate - left,right,left up the stem. i love the concept of scrog but i don't think id do it unless i had confirmed fems, the though of putting in weeks of effort only to have to chop an intertwined plant out of a screen doesn't appeal to me.