flowering help with 2 plants

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adhaze

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First time flowering plants. Here is my story..

Veg 35 days
12/12 started approx 42 days ago but didn't show pistils until day 17
14-10-27 NPK Phostrogen all purpose nutrients started approx day 20 and watering each plant with 600mls every 2/3 days with the nutes mixed in

60/40 soil/perlite standard garden centre stuff
80w/5000 lumens of CFL mostly top half of plants (keeping 1 to 2 inches away from plants) because they stretched.. but i am turning the plants every 2nd day.
fan going during photoperiod and definitely no light leaks.

these are photos I took today. first 2 are DP the ultimate and last 2 are amnesia haze. ultimate smells fruity and the haze smells potent haha..
the ultimate is 125cm and the haze is 100cm roughly speaking.. :p

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please don't tell me I need more light. I might make it 100w but that is it as much as I wish to use. This is only for personal smoke and i definitely don't wish to sell it. it is my first grow so I'm just going easy on it first time around and trying not to make it complicated you get me?

both are said to take 11 to 12 weeks until harvest so that would put me pretty much halfway through (?) and I would appreciate it if you guys could lend any advice for the rest of the grow?

maybe an idea of yield to look forward to, light schedule towards the end i.e. should I give them more darkness maybe to mimic seasonal changes? any different nutrient i can use that would boost bud swelling over next few weeks i.e. what is good for this far into flowering, what ratio do i need.

ANY advice at all. whatever you guys think I should know for the rest of the flowering process. :)
 
NaturalWorksOrganics

NaturalWorksOrganics

Member
Why in the world would you start a new thread for this nonsense? Its like a reoccurring nightmare. Need more light, closer to the plant. Pretty sure we have been through all this...
 
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adhaze

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NaturalWorksOrganics said:
Why in the world would you start a new thread for this nonsense? Its like a reoccurring nightmare. Need more light, closer to the plant. Pretty sure we have been through all this...
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you haven't helped at all! all you've done is complained about me. i ask for advice on the grow and i'm new to all this. clearly you're not and i've summed up about 7 pages of crap on the other thread along with some new info and new photos to one post which is shown above.

and i said please don't tell me i need more light as i've had 7 pages of people telling me that already. this is an experiment for a first time grower
 
twistedentities

twistedentities

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I don't think they are complaining. The only way for you plants to grow thicker and fatter buds is with higher output light. If you are halfway through flower, picture them maybe twice as big. Maybe change the spectrum of your bulbs. Are you using cool blue or more red. What's the k of them? Instead of cfl use t5 bulbs....not much more can be done. Ya need more light

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adhaze

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twistedentities said:
I don't think they are complaining. The only way for you plants to grow thicker and fatter buds is with higher output light. If you are halfway through flower, picture them maybe twice as big. Maybe change the spectrum of your bulbs. Are you using cool blue or more red. What's the k of them? Instead of cfl use t5 bulbs....not much more can be done. Ya need more light

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2700k and oh my god stop telling me i need more light
 
jimmer6577

jimmer6577

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adhaze said:
First time flowering plants. Here is my story..

Veg 35 days
12/12 started approx 42 days ago but didn't show pistils until day 17
14-10-27 NPK Phostrogen all purpose nutrients started approx day 20 and watering each plant with 600mls every 2/3 days with the nutes mixed in

60/40 soil/perlite standard garden centre stuff
80w/5000 lumens of CFL mostly top half of plants (keeping 1 to 2 inches away from plants) because they stretched.. but i am turning the plants every 2nd day.
fan going during photoperiod and definitely no light leaks.

these are photos I took today. first 2 are DP the ultimate and last 2 are amnesia haze. ultimate smells fruity and the haze smells potent haha..
the ultimate is 125cm and the haze is 100cm roughly speaking.. :p

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please don't tell me I need more light. I might make it 100w but that is it as much as I wish to use. This is only for personal smoke and i definitely don't wish to sell it. it is my first grow so I'm just going easy on it first time around and trying not to make it complicated you get me?

both are said to take 11 to 12 weeks until harvest so that would put me pretty much halfway through (?) and I would appreciate it if you guys could lend any advice for the rest of the grow?

maybe an idea of yield to look forward to, light schedule towards the end i.e. should I give them more darkness maybe to mimic seasonal changes? any different nutrient i can use that would boost bud swelling over next few weeks i.e. what is good for this far into flowering, what ratio do i need.

ANY advice at all. whatever you guys think I should know for the rest of the flowering process. :)
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I think you missing the point if you keep asking for advice and everybody says the same thing. It's really hard for anybody to suggest any feeding schedule for your experiment of growing a plant with out close to enough light. I truly do not understand why not spend $15 and get a couple more bulbs and them you can start to worry about nutes. Light is the main nute needed to grow! Why not the window there's more light.
 
NaturalWorksOrganics

NaturalWorksOrganics

Member
Well...think about it for just a minute. You have 2 plants under only 80 watts. And to be honest, the little nugs they have dont look all that bad. But a quick look at anyone elses grow and its plain to see that that 40w/plant is way less than optimal. Maybe instead of getting all defensive, take what we are saying as constructive criticism. We are trying to help. And i apologize if i offended you.
 
skinnysmoke

skinnysmoke

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If your not gonna increase the number of lights, then I would not increase nutes. How is the plant to make use of the extra nutes. Most of all your experiment is specific to you so do what you think is best. Most on here have not tried it your way so asking for advice is useless. That being said if you made it this far keep doing what your doing.... its your plant and your the person that has to deal with the final result. Good luck:bigjoint:
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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This will help .. print out 20 of these hang them 1 inch from your plant
use your printers highest DPI setting



do you have any candles ?
 
Dabolili

Dabolili

Active Member
adhaze said:
First time flowering plants. Here is my story..

Veg 35 days
12/12 started approx 42 days ago but didn't show pistils until day 17
14-10-27 NPK Phostrogen all purpose nutrients started approx day 20 and watering each plant with 600mls every 2/3 days with the nutes mixed in

60/40 soil/perlite standard garden centre stuff
80w/5000 lumens of CFL mostly top half of plants (keeping 1 to 2 inches away from plants) because they stretched.. but i am turning the plants every 2nd day.
fan going during photoperiod and definitely no light leaks.

these are photos I took today. first 2 are DP the ultimate and last 2 are amnesia haze. ultimate smells fruity and the haze smells potent haha..
the ultimate is 125cm and the haze is 100cm roughly speaking.. :p

View attachment 2965178 View attachment 2965179 View attachment 2965180 View attachment 2965181

please don't tell me I need more light. I might make it 100w but that is it as much as I wish to use. This is only for personal smoke and i definitely don't wish to sell it. it is my first grow so I'm just going easy on it first time around and trying not to make it complicated you get me?

both are said to take 11 to 12 weeks until harvest so that would put me pretty much halfway through (?) and I would appreciate it if you guys could lend any advice for the rest of the grow?

maybe an idea of yield to look forward to, light schedule towards the end i.e. should I give them more darkness maybe to mimic seasonal changes? any different nutrient i can use that would boost bud swelling over next few weeks i.e. what is good for this far into flowering, what ratio do i need.

ANY advice at all. whatever you guys think I should know for the rest of the flowering process. :)
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Don't mess with light schedule at all . keep them on 12/12 . rotating plants will help given you don't have much light . I'm not sure about the nutes you're using
but I feed every other watering. you can also try giving them a little bit of molasses once a week. as far as yield goes who knows man .. it definitely looks like you're
gonna have some smoke in the end and that's what matters. it will be extra tasty because you grew it yourself . good luck
 
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