What are some Of the best nutrient products out there?

qwizoking

qwizoking

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You'll get all different responses. In my opinion the best plant nute would be specific or relatively so, for your strain.. I look for chlorinated or ammonical nutes, they negatively impact burn qualities. I compaee amount of chelated ingrediants and then look at ratios. Some plants burn through mag like candy, some are prone to mo def...a single nute company may not provide exactly what you want for the strain your running. This is true for organic or chems, most of the time each nute is added to an organic garden individually. Bone meal gives p. Most organic nutes have multiples, for example bone meal has p and also a little bit of calcium which raises ph or greensand with micro nutes and potassium...creating exact ratios is much trickier but released slowly..there's a lot to organic
I really like miracle grow bloom booster with the addition of Epson salt for more mag and sulphur on my hungry sativas. I like a little bit of molasses to supply the possibly unavailable iron or other metals...proper organic grows have more in them, now you see c/n ratios, amount of organic matter and humus. Plus composting and making nutes useable. Composting sucks n while its working. Must cure first..providing fuel for bacteria and crap. And you will begin to dive into sustainable gardening, preventing soil compaction and reusing your soil..... think I started rambling

I use miracle grow bloom booster....and I'm growing organically too at the moment
 
vostok

vostok

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Human piss at 20%, as above worm poo, any animal poo, best is chicken poo, any green leaves, just about anything dead or alive is great compost and hence food for plants, look to organic teas and experiment
 
AlGore

AlGore

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I had good luck with FloraSeries on my first grow btw. Had to adjust based on my plants, they were nute lovers(i think blueberry usually is). Based off the complete drain to waste chart, ended up doubling a lot of the supplementals as well as 50-75% boosts to micro and bloom nutes.

This go round I'm using bagged TGA supersoil, no other nutes.
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Good nutrients include compost, earthworm castings, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, neem meal, fish bone meal, soft rock phosphate...
 
Hudsonvalley82

Hudsonvalley82

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Nectar for the Gods - My results have been noteworthy worth that line. Real soupy stuff too. Hard to compare to existing lines in that it's entirely calcium based. Calcium phosphate none the less.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Why calcium phosphate? Normally caused by excess calcium( either from excessive n locking cal or hard water) or high p..they attach and form a compound not very soluble, visually seen as a lockout in the garden..but I do believe a high cal diet to be essential, whitening the ash and making more of it, weightier. Generally recognized as improving burn qualities or what we expect to see in ash and slow burning herb..largely cosmetic but not solely
 
Hudsonvalley82

Hudsonvalley82

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Brewed 8 months in fulvic acid (from BioAg) and enzymes, I found it to be very agreeable with what is considered a fairly hot soil to begin with. They have a fish bone meal (which is actually cartilage) for a gentler cal with a ton of aminos. I blend both the cal sources.
 
Hudsonvalley82

Hudsonvalley82

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Well i don't make the crap. The chemist for oregon's only seems to have figured out a way to get the 22% of the bone meal that's phosphorus (from calcium phosphate) and bottle the shit with a ton of chelating acids. According to the guy that runs the company, it takes around 8 months to make (if I'm not mistake). And it works like hell in the super soil from my experience. (which fares well on its own).
 
AlGore

AlGore

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You guys really think the op, based on his post, is gonna be looking into all this and mixing up his own organic mediums?

We get it, y'all are super into it and can wax intellectual about it all day. Seems more like suggestions for simple 2 or 3 part solution mixes is what he is after.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Hey I said my fav..here's a bit more detail
Per gallon of water feeding every watering....just under half tsp miracle grow bloom booster, pinch or 1/8tsp or just under Epson salt and a bit of molasses 1/4tsp (every other watering)
The molasses is great cheating metals that might not be absorbed to easily in my alkaline soil(talked about further down) it also gives me some extra potassium, some of my plants are k hungry and I mainly give them the molasses every water(drop the Epson on those, extra molasses takes care of it)
I have a myriad of grows going on all different mixes and mediums .. I use that fertilizer mix for all but the true organic..

The soil is just as important imo
I get great results using mg African violet soil mixed equal parts with mg perlite..the organic miracle grow does not have time released nute balls if that's a concern for you and is a nice substitute.....I sort of combine organic gardening with my miracle grow a lot and get great results.. Chemical nutes aren't necessarily bad, especially since I'm not outdoors anymore with runoff going everywhere. I always reuse my soil and the root ball from the last crop is always left, the root hairs are really wonderful and fantastic for your rhizosphere secreting all kinds of yummies up to 2 years(so they say, I feel more like 6months to a year) they also loosen it up a bit like super coir. I add everything from the previous harvest to keep the soil texture how I like, organic matter is important with the predominantly "soiless" mix. I add the stems and all fan leaves from harvest.. I like to add a little bone meal, it raises the ph slightly and gives a bit of calcium. I have pretty clean tap water.. I also add black ash(biochar) not fully burnt from my ashtray as well..I like to feed every watering and allowed to with the higher ph or buffering capacity.. together this increases water/nute retention while being very airy with great drainage.
I believe there are many aspects of organics that improve plant growth and desirable traits, such as auxins hormones etc like blood meal, there's a lot in there besides nute ratios..but nute ratios and the type of nute imo is most important.

It may not be the best but its cheap..all yearly costs, equal 37¢ per gram and I get great results..I mainly grow landrace sativas
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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AlGore said:
You guys really think the op, based on his post, is gonna be looking into all this and mixing up his own organic mediums?

We get it, y'all are super into it and can wax intellectual about it all day. Seems more like suggestions for simple 2 or 3 part solution mixes is what he is after.
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We can let him decide on that one. There is PLENTY of information out there to help a first timer mix up a good batch of soil, and PLENTY of people (myself included) who will be glad to answer any questions or offer advice.

If you ask a vague question, you are likely to get a vague answer. OP asked what our favorite nutrients are, so I listed a few...
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Fuck organics, it all ends being NPK. Cut to the 3 month chase, and you are out of your soil. Feed it what it needs for the 3 fucking months of it's existence and all will be good. It really doesn't care if it came from a bat's ass, or a chemical plant. Peace
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Jimdamick said:
Fuck organics, it all ends being NPK. Cut to the 3 month chase, and you are out of your soil. Feed it what it needs for the 3 fucking months of it's existence and all will be good. It really doesn't care if it came from a bat's ass, or a chemical plant. Peace
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Go troll somewhere else.
 
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