st0wandgrow
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That's used for those really stinky flowers, Java.
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That's used for those really stinky flowers, Java.
Also very high male ratio on the Gage testers, but insane female ratios on the Dream Beaver and LVBK. Both the latter were 100 percent girls on the first germ, with 3 LVBK boys in the second one. 10/10 female on the DB. My luck had to turn... I have only 5 females out of 3 packs with the Gage gear. Beautiful ones, though, true little champs.Red, I've been getting a stupid amount of males lately too. Thus my question on the LOS myth thread.
I got 6 out of 8 males on my Grape Puff, and 9 out of 11 males on my Bodhi Dream Lotus. Still waiting to sex my 4 Zazen's.
Speaking of Zazen .....
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3 of the 4 are squat, bushy looking plants with 3-finger leaves. The other plant is looking very stretchy with nothing but 5-finger leaves. I'll have to ask gas what the 2 distinct phenos are. The tall one looks like an all together different strain.
It's actually cheaper to buy a quality panel than build one. More effective to have multiple small panels rather than one large panel. Area 51 panels cost $495- $545 and it would cost well over that to build the same light. The A51's cover a 3x3. I have one of those. Red has 2 . Its one of the best led's you can get.Would you have a link to where to buy everything to build a nice led panel. I would love to have one to Cover a 6x6 area and have up to 4ft plants from the base of soil.im really close to getting a light and i wouldn't mind taking a few days off work to have a Lil time engineering a light. I have all the tools and I'm sure i could make it look pretty sweet. I take pride in my work and really need to kick back and do some work at home, I worked my ass off ever since out of hs. This yr resolution was to have fun and see new places. I'll be at the cup as well mr.hyroot. I would love to try that cheese plant of yours lop looks delish. I should get off here. I'm going to go check your YouTube out hyroot. I just may go the indagro route.
Completeley false yet again lol. You can even build one to shift into different wavelengths throughout light cycle to mimic nature, for half the price!!! Plus he has equipment. Heat sinks, fans, drivers are dirt cheap. The real money is the top shelf diodes. Don't get me wrong brother Hy...I love my 51s and might get a pair of the 3700s, but DIY with better nodes (Nich n Cree) is easy, cheap, and doable! It's just the amount of time and trial that will cost. Buy the parts May and I'll assemble for a nickel....bag.It's actually cheaper to buy a quality panel than build one. More effective to have multiple small panels rather than one large panel. Area 51 panels cost $495- $545 and it would cost well over that to build the same light. The A51's cover a 3x3. I have one of those. Red has 2 . Its one of the best led's you can get.
http://a51led.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65
theres a $50 discount promo on the site. if you email them and talk and say you will document the grow on here and if you are well established on this forum , which you are. They will give you a better deal.
I am diggin my inda gros too...
I'm going to the L.A. Cup its feb 8-9 in San bernardino at nos events center. an hour from L.A.
you are wrong my friend. to buy the same cree leds (72) that will cost $360 alone. Plus heat sink, wires, nuts, fans, drivers, thermal adhesive, lenses, power plugs, soldering iron and solder, and casing. if you went with cheap chinese leds like you did on your pfr then it would be cheaper. I'm talking about a high quality long lasting panel. heat sinks can be expensive if you by them already drill tapped. if you do it yourself it can be cheaper.Completeley false yet again lol. You can even build one to shift into different wavelengths throughout light cycle to mimic nature, for half the price!!! Plus he has equipment. Heat sinks, fans, drivers are dirt cheap. The real money is the top shelf diodes. Don't get me wrong brother Hy...I love my 51s and might get a pair of the 3700s, but DIY with better nodes (Nich n Cree) is easy, cheap, and doable! It's just the amount of time and trial that will cost. Buy the parts May and I'll assemble for a nickel....bag.
LEDs work!!! Density, amazing spectrum, quiet, runs dirt cheap, BUT you need a lot of them for coverage. In cold Michigan weather they'd be a pain without some good 75-80 heat for transpiration. Thank God there're some open minded people like you out there. You email Area 51 (use me as reference pleaseI want to switch to LED's when my ballasts take a shit. I'd need to buy 5 of those fuckers. $2,500+ to get it done. How do those compare to a 1000 watt hps?
4 0f them will replace a 1000w with better coverage. there is bulk discounts too. plus like i said before if you email and ask for a forum discount blah blah blah you will get a better deal. on the site the bulk discount is $475 each for 4 -7 panels. If you email and chat you can most likely get a better deal. Great penetration, high par, high cri. You have to keep them at least 18 inches away from the canopy. That's how much they penetrate. You will end up with far better quality bud too. closer node spacing alsoI want to switch to LED's when my ballasts take a shit. I'd need to buy 5 of those fuckers. $2,500+ to get it done. How do those compare to a 1000 watt hps?
show me a reputable link to get 5w crees for cheaper than $5 each. those fake multi leds from ebay do not count. I researched it for over a couple years now.Okay he already has equipment, many bulk deals/kits are out there, companies LOVE the free advertising on forums (hence my hundreds saved), and you don't have to get the Cadillac when the Camry will do the job fine. I have many links and can provide several prices. I've been researching this for weeks, and am amazed at the ' do ability'. Have you looked into a 51? Easy peezy. I'll even throw in some moonlight and chirping crickets!
3 watts are where it's at these days. 5's cost way too much unless you buy 5000 a month.4 0f them will replace a 1000w with better coverage. there is bulk discounts too. plus like i said before if you email and ask for a forum discount blah blah blah you will get a better deal. on the site the bulk discount is $475 each for 4 -7 panels. If you email and chat you can most likely get a better deal.\
show me a reputable link to get 5w crees for cheaper than $5 each. I researched it for over a couple years now.
the sgs 160 uses 3w x-pg red 630 and 5w x-pg 4500k.3 watts are where it's at these days. 5's cost way too much unless you buy 5000 a month.
they buy bulk and have the money. I can build a panel comparable to a 51 or Hans for well under 300$. That's with having equipment already.the sgs uses 3w x-pg red 630 and 5w x-pg 4500k. The xgs uses 5w x-te 3700k
hans has 33 leds on the 65w . uses cree and osram.. comparable would be using the same quality leds at the same wattage. Using more watts of chinese leds is not even in the same ball park.they buy bulk and have the money. I can build a panel comparable to a 51 or Hans for well under 300$. That's with having equipment already.
Damn. So if I'm running 3, 1,000 watt HID's in flower you're saying I'd need 12 of those fuckers to realize similar output?4 0f them will replace a 1000w with better coverage. there is bulk discounts too. plus like i said before if you email and ask for a forum discount blah blah blah you will get a better deal. on the site the bulk discount is $475 each for 4 -7 panels. If you email and chat you can most likely get a better deal. Great penetration, high par, high cri. You have to keep them at least 18 inches away from the canopy. That's how much they penetrate. You will end up with far better quality bud too. closer node spacing also
show me a reputable link to get 5w crees for cheaper than $5 each. those fake multi leds from ebay do not count. I researched it for over a couple years now.
haha . its about 600-700 watts of led to match the yield of a 1000 watt. far less heat. no venting lights, no bulb replacement. lifetime limited warranty. full coverage for 3 years. 50% for life. They are upgradable for 50% of the cost for when new panels come out.Damn. So if I'm running 3, 1,000 watt HID's in flower you're saying I'd need 12 of those fuckers to realize similar output?
Might have to pawn the wifes wedding ring.
Let's make a wager first...remember hustling is my hobby lol.hans has 33 leds on the 65w . uses cree and osram.. comparable would be using the same quality leds at the same wattage. Using more watts of chinese leds is not even in the same ball park.
so where are those links kimo sabe
I've made several calls and emails to get a good deal on Crees. I don't use Chinese baboon!!! 730 Epistars for 15 min a day isn't bad. Don't hate...congratulate. You're out of my Area 51 club!a million space bucks or jupiter rupies
Induction is the road forward with electricity. My AC and water pumps for the house are all inductance appliances and my pocket is loving it. I will now look into it for my lighting, thanks Hyroot.haha . its about 600-700 watts of led to match the yield of a 1000 watt. far less heat. no venting lights, no bulb replacement. lifetime limited warranty. full coverage for 3 years. 50% for life. They are upgradable for 50% of the cost for when new panels come out.
savings on electricy, better quality, up to 3% more thc increase, with 4 panels you can cover a 5x5 - 6x6 easily.
i also use inda gro induction with led pontoon 3 of those will out perform 2 1000w's . Those are $1500 per combo. $795 for induction light and $695 for the led pontoon and covers a 5x5. they have a 10 year warranty on the induction and a 5 year warranty on the pontoons. I have 2 over head one made for vert. Its like having 4 lights with 3. I'm getting the same size buds as under 1000w. I ran the cbk under 1000w a few times. I'm able to cover 2 5x5's with 1400 watts. they run cooler than T5's . Right now I'm covering less because I have 5 plants under one light and 3 iunder another light. But I can fit them under the same light. The 3 are a foot taller that the 5 so...
the induction is 420 watts and the pontoons are 40watts the pontoons have 660 deepr red leds and 730 Ir leds