Dude, it is OK.
Will you forgive me?
I get the fact that posts on a forum can come across differently than if the words were spoken in person....
I do not appologize for my opinion, I do believe that every human is entitled to their opinion...whether I agree with it or not and I did not intend to be condescending...my opinion and your opinion are equal in value and relevance.
As you stated, the thread is not anti-military. I did go all defensive because there were posts condemning the military even though the thread was not for or against military sevice. The OP is looking for advice, not moral direction.
Whether you agree or not with political policy, the service to your fellow man in any capacity that you can is admirable. That is what I wanted to express.
Some people join the military, some work at the foodbank, others join the peace corps....we all desire to serve, sacrifice, inspire, and grow...one way or another.
I respect your experience, it is yours. It is different than mine and no less than mine.
Mine has not been all roses and shit but obviously not the same as yours.
I am not a bad ass killer (by my moral compass), I am not a sociopath, I am not a mouth breathing whatever....I have been in combat, I have seen the absolute worse that man can create...but I still maintain a sense of positivity that we as a country/culture are better than alot of other places in this fucked up world.
Our military is the sum of all who are in it.
If we hire shit bags we have a shit bag military.
If we hire good people......
Obviously we have a mixture because perfection is impossible.
I can appreciate that a generic nobody American wants to better him/herself by looking to the military for a chance at something more..and depending on your opinion.... better life.
I wish you no ill will, and I hope you can find both internal and external peace.
Peace.
Done and done. No anger, just vigorous defense/
Thank you. I apologize if I offended in defending my opinion.
I think there may be a bit of a misunderstanding, and it's my fault (guilt by exclusion.) Although I'd like a peaceful world, it's not here, so I'm 100% in support of killing people that would kill me. We hire and train people to become these killers, and I applaud that. I'm not anti-military, in any sense. I will defend the radical opinion that's more peaceful, though. The right to hate solders and the military and to express that is part of the most fundamental right. The first Amendment. It guarantees that we get to freely express our free opinions. It's the right that everyone says the military's fighting for. Is it unfair? Possibly. BUT, it's a fundamental right.
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This was the point of my argument, but I never got around to it.
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As a patriot, and solder, I can assume that for you it's an affront, a kick in the face. I accept that, but, having CHOSEN to serve, to protect that right, you've sworn to protect it, always. Even when it's a verbal assault on your sense of right by a peace lover or anti-military. Had it been flipped, I'd have broken bad on the other guy. All of our opinions have flaws, and we all must accept it.
if it were me I would just start a new account.
Why on earth would you even contemplate doing that? He turned a descending conversation, that become pompous and full of hyperbole and expressed his opinions without the lash of emotion. He defused a discussion that was counter to the proper flow of the thread.
The other side of the coin. its about the people urinating to your left and right
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That's deplorable. It's disgusting, violates military law, and is a defilement under Islam.
That said. Those men that are pissing, they were trained to kill, pushed over and over in a climate that most people can't tolerate. (Remember Russia's constant failed ground attempts that gave rise to Al Qaida in the first place?) Those men dodge bombs, bullets and pounds of hate. Whether they "should" be there or not, doesn't matter -- they ARE. They may have known what they were getting in to, they may have bought the bullshit. Whatever. Still, actions like that, no matter how disgusting, show a serious strain in some of the military forces. A better field-based psychological profiling system needs to be put in place. These guys mighta been fucked from go, but a more likely scenario is that they're breaking down due to stress.
THAT is fucked up.
THAT goes against what I believe in.
THAT is not what the U.S. military stands for.
THAT I condemn.
THAT is not what the majority of U.S. military personnel stand for.
There is no honor in that.
We agree on that!
