Which Candidate has imploded more rapidly?

ChesusRice said:
They dont become murder until the child is born. I figure after 20 weeks the mother should of already decided if she wants to carry the baby to term or not.
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true that.. anything afterwards would only be for life of mother..not anyone i know on the left, supports abortion after 20 weeks.
 
desert dude said:
To who? For what? LOL

Skylar, you told me in a different thread weeks ago that nobody is arguing against a 20 week limit on abortions. You have been conspicuously silent in this thread where your philosophical brethren are ardently supporting any abortion at any time for any reason. Do you share that opinion with Pinhead and his defective uterus?
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liberty means not letting women make decisions about their own bodies. liberty.
 
Judging Presidents is not even possible in the perspective of history, I don't think. We cannot be in their times. We cannot shake our future knowledge. They, also, would be lost in our times.

We can't even judge the Presidents of our lifetime against each other. Things have so accelerated, the News/Lobby/TV Commercials/Congress/Election spin cycle is now all contrived over generations.

I don't know about.. handle the truth of our REAL situation, but I believe this. No one can know the truth of our REAL situation.

It is all a Partisan point of of view, unless you work very hard to make a synthesis of some kind of combined view. Combine the lies to see the truth? Good luck, Doer. How can that not also be from deception, into self deception?
 
desert dude said:
To who? For what? LOL

Skylar, you told me in a different thread weeks ago that nobody is arguing against a 20 week limit on abortions. You have been conspicuously silent in this thread where your philosophical brethren are ardently supporting any abortion at any time for any reason. Do you share that opinion with Pinhead and his defective uterus?
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1. i have a life outside of here
2. as i just said, i don't know anyone who supports after 20 weeks other than LIFE OF MOTHER.
 
desert dude said:
The demarcation point between murder and abortion on demand is completely arbitrary, and I don't see any way for it not be arbitrary. If a fetus is 40 weeks old and ten minutes from delivery it can be aborted legally in some places, and if that forty weeks old and ten minutes after delivery it is killed that is murder in every state in the union. Despite Pinworm's pinheadedness, he gets to have an opinion if his testicles are up to the challenge of taking a stand. Intentionally killing a ten minute old infant is murder and I see no moral difference between murdering a ten minute old infant or a fetus ten minutes from a healthy delivery. The people who support such a practice are no less kooky than the ones who claim an eight cell zygote implanted in the uterine wall is fully human.

I proposed a 20 week limit, on abortion on demand, (actually I would prefer 12 weeks) and that too is an arbitrary dividing line and for me is the outer bound of acceptability for abortion for convenience. I don't claim to have the world market on ethics captured so maybe 21 weeks is acceptable but surely 39 weeks is not acceptable. I have been astounded to read here that some support any and all abortions at any point during a pregnancy and for any reason: Pinhead, Canndo, and Unclebuck so far. One would imagine the same sort of thinking goes on in the heads of mass murderers.

Pinhead claims to have no uterus and is thereby absolved from the discussion. Apparently he has no brain nor conscience either.
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i seriously doubt that..
 
schuylaar said:
true that.. anything afterwards would only be for life of mother..not anyone i know on the left, supports abortion after 20 weeks.
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Wendy filibustered a bill that outlawed abortion after twenty weeks. I would agree that Wendy is not on the left, or the right, Wendy is on Wendy's side and nobody else.

Canndo, Buck, and Pinhead all support abortion at any time for any reason. I think they are on the left.
 
UncleBuck said:
liberty means not letting women make decisions about their own bodies. liberty.
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In my preferred society, liberty does not turn a blind eye to murder, nor does it allow women (or men) to kill another for the sake of convenience. You have an odd understanding of liberty.
 
desert dude said:
In my preferred society, liberty does not turn a blind eye to murder, nor does it allow women (or men) to kill another for the sake of convenience. You have an odd understanding of liberty.
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loaded language much, you hypocrite anti-libertarian misogynist?
 
desert dude said:
They have all had ample opportunity to opine that aborting a 39 week, 6 day, and 23 hour old fetus is loathsome and should be outlawed. None have done so. All have openly supported the practice.
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by that same logic, you are a neo-nazi since you never said a peep against them and joined their group.
 
NLXSK1 said:
I believe that it should be between a woman and her state board certified doctor and none of the government nor societies business what a woman wants to do with her body.

If you want freedom you have to be prepared to be offended by other peoples use of that same freedom. You dont have to like it but you have to understand it should be a basic right unlike it is today.
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What a woman does with her body is her business. There is a third person in the calculus of abortion.
 
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