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IGROWLED

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Sounds like you have it dialed in, Res temp sounds great. Might be beneficial if you can get the overall grow temp down though. Personally I aim for around 72 degrees, But anywhere from 70 to 80 is ok. Those running co2 can get away with slightly higher temps. If you can drop your temp 10 degrees you will see better growth overall.
 

Spanky84

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Yes. Now I just need to figure out the best way to do it :)

I could add another 300m3/h intake but that will create a positive preasure and make smells very hard to controll. Then I could make that another exaust, but that would take another carbon filter and those things cost...
 

TripleMindedGee5150

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The little babies are looking pretty good. Using botanicare coco and I've only been giving distilled water. I was pH sowing it to 5.9-6 but noticed a leaf tip burn after a couple days. Stopped it and just been giving water. They look pretty healthy.

My temps hover around 75-83 and humidity is constantly 32% . I have 162w of cfl w/ 6500/2700 ratio 4:1 at this point. My gut has been telling me not to feed them yet. IMAG0746.jpgIMAG0747.jpgIMAG0748.jpgIMAG0738_1.jpg
 

Djreed57

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Hey all I wouldn't say I am a beginner as I have had many successful grows but still have my issues here and there as once you think you got it down another issue comes up. How much would airstones help in my ebb and flow setups. would you put it in the reservoir or the controller unit that the res water feeds into? Anyone not familiar with the setup the nutrients go from my 50 gallon res to a controller unit which then floods and drains all the buckets on timers from there. Thank you all for any advice.
 

IGROWLED

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Yes. Now I just need to figure out the best way to do it :)

I could add another 300m3/h intake but that will create a positive preasure and make smells very hard to controll. Then I could make that another exaust, but that would take another carbon filter and those things cost...
Well you could switch to led and your heat issue would be over! ;-) Otherwise you might be able to use a y connector and push another exhaust fan through the existing filter. if your existing filter cant handle the extra volume i can walk you through the steps to make a high capacity diy carbon filter for around $30
 

IGROWLED

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Hey all I wouldn't say I am a beginner as I have had many successful grows but still have my issues here and there as once you think you got it down another issue comes up. How much would airstones help in my ebb and flow setups. would you put it in the reservoir or the controller unit that the res water feeds into? Anyone not familiar with the setup the nutrients go from my 50 gallon res to a controller unit which then floods and drains all the buckets on timers from there. Thank you all for any advice.
The more you can oxygenate the better. It would be best to include the stones in the reservoir, if incorporated into the controller unit airstones might cause issues. if it were me I would definitely be adding oxygen to the res. The higher the oxygen saturation the better the system will perform. Hope that helps Djreed57
 

IGROWLED

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As far as heat issues go i run one of these 120w leds http://www.evolutiongrowled.com/evolution-basic-led-grow-lights.html in my 18 cf. clone/veg closet with a minimal 50 cfm exhaust fan and i have no trouble maintaining 70F at all. in fact i actually had to add a small cfl to run at night since the closet is on an exterior wall and weve been having a bad cold snap the last few weeks. a while back outside temps dropped into the single digits and i noticed even with the led running my cab was dipping below 60 at night. i dont like my grow going under 60F until the last week of flowering.
 

IGROWLED

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it definitely is beneficial to have a wider temp swing toward the end of flowering, Makes a substantial difference in resin production.
 

Djreed57

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yes igrowled ty very much. while your having fun giving answers and I have your attention ill pick your brain a little more. I use the technaflora nutrients and the only issue ive had is getting the babies to grow in the beginning 50 percent of the time. germinating I am atleast average 90 percent successful now and then into small rockwool cubes into a lil humidone under a 400 watt mh. Here I have issues and it may just be now because this closet is in an open room where temp is prolly 68 at best due to being basement and cold outside. once I see root poke threw 2x2 rockwool I put into 2 gallon buckets of grow rocks and feed no nutrients ppm of tap water filtered is around 200 and flooded 3 times a day for 15 mins and light on 20 hrs. water is 65 degrees the lil guys jut don't want to proceed but whenever I put them into the next room a tent which is 1000 watt hps and can get up to 82 for later vegging and they start to grow like normal. I have three rooms veg 1 veg2 and flower1 so the veg1 I need in order to keep a constant harvest every month. ph is always in right range, anything look off or any suggestions for veg1. I just gave the reservoir nutrients and ppm is now 800 and 24 hours later it was down to 700 telling me that they were hungry correct? So hoping that this strain just was lacking food which stunted them? Thanks again RIU!
 

Djreed57

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I just see ppl vegging for 2 weeks and having 10" plants already with 5 internodes and that's what I need so I can snip It at the top and let it veg another 1-2 weeks in veg2 then into flower and constant repeat but right now its holding me up. veg 1 is 3x4 closet 400 mh, veg2 is 5x5 tent 1000 watt hps and flower is 6x12 2-1000 watt hps.
 

Spanky84

Active Member
Well you could switch to led and your heat issue would be over! ;-) Otherwise you might be able to use a y connector and push another exhaust fan through the existing filter. if your existing filter cant handle the extra volume i can walk you through the steps to make a high capacity diy carbon filter for around $30
If you can write a short tutorial, that would probably be most helpful.
 

IGROWLED

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Sorry for the absence the last two days, Had to call in sick due to an extreme migraine and slept all day. It happens every so often unfortunately, And of course i then had to put in some extra hours to get caught back up at work. Anyways im here now and will do my best to answer both of your questions.
 

IGROWLED

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Spanky84

There are countless ways to improvise a carbon filter, Some more elaborate than others.

A crude and cheap method requires a coffee can, a 8" to 6" sheet metal reducer, a 12" x 24" piece of small mesh screen (hardware cloth), a piece of filter floss and panty hose, duct tape, and a few large zip-ties. The diagram is pretty self explanatory.
Hope this is helpful.homemade carbon filter.jpg
 

IGROWLED

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I just see ppl vegging for 2 weeks and having 10" plants already with 5 internodes and that's what I need so I can snip It at the top and let it veg another 1-2 weeks in veg2 then into flower and constant repeat but right now its holding me up. veg 1 is 3x4 closet 400 mh, veg2 is 5x5 tent 1000 watt hps and flower is 6x12 2-1000 watt hps.
One obvious thing that jumps out at me is temp. I would consider trying a seedling warming mat to encourage faster growth. They can be purchased online or at any garden supply shop for a reasonable price and do usually make a noticeable difference. Also remember the strain plays a part in growth rates. Adding a seedling mat will make difference and I would suggest letting the babies spend a few more days under the dome. You have to realize it is a big shock for a baby plant to make the transition from the insulated high humidity dome to the open air environment of the veg room. Giving them a few more days to gain strength might make all of the difference and leave you hardier and faster growing plants. Hope that helps.
 

Djreed57

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Yeah that is interesting I will keep them in dome longer but I usually transplant when the root pokes through the rockwool you think wait even longer than that? also the warming pads get those for under two gallon buckets? you think it makes a difference? prolly will considering concrete is cold. thanks
 

budolskie

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igrowled i dont even use a dome for my cuts and ii think it helps as they already rooting in my veg room enviroment which stops that shock!!

i made a diy cloner for about £3 for 10 clones a time i now have 4 and an air pump with 4 lines so i can do 40 at a time if needs be.....

heres a few pics of them about 4 days and they packed with roots
 

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IGROWLED

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igrowled i dont even use a dome for my cuts and ii think it helps as they already rooting in my veg room enviroment which stops that shock!!

i made a diy cloner for about £3 for 10 clones a time i now have 4 and an air pump with 4 lines so i can do 40 at a time if needs be.....

heres a few pics of them about 4 days and they packed with roots
Nice, I myself dont always use a humi-dome when taking cuttings in favor of frequent misting. However if you read Djreed57's earlier post he said he IS using a dome, as such the plants are going to experience some degree of shock when transitioning. I was simply suggesting he extend the clones time to recoup before making the move to the veg area. Everyone has their own respective method and I believe Djreed57 was seeking advice on improving his method, Not using another method altogether. But youre definitely right, open-air cloning with a cloner is always another option.
 
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